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That's what can happen when you confuse education with knowledge. The common thread I see a lot these days is the more degrees one has the less cognitive ability they have also. You must need to trade common sense for a BS,MS or PhD. Just my observation. I don't know how we got this advanced without common core.
Yep, and the more letters yo have after your name the less you are able to actually communicate with others of your species, because at a deep level of your own insecurity, you feel that if they dont have an equal or greater number of letters, they cant be as intelligent as you. When that happens, you dont speak WITH others, you speak TO them.
You are more correct than you might realize. "I have always maintained the higher you go the dumber you get." And for the vast majority this holds. Seeing as I have been in University for the past ten years and hoping to round out in the next year, I have a rather long and colorful history of the bubble that is academia.
Strictly speaking you get two groups of PhD's: the first are those who think that anyone with out a PhD is not worth their time, and the second are so focused on one topic that they can't tie their shoes!
Personally I take jobs and opportunities to get dirty and work with everyone. Most of my work experience has been with people who may or may not have a GED. Still learned lots, and quite enjoyed getting back to the real world. I aim to be one much like the illusive 'honest lawyer'.
What the fuck do I know, I'm still counting on my fingers.
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But you can use an I phone with tap talk. LOL
Glad to see that people keep open minds, and stereotyping is not the norm!
This is coming from someone who has served in the Military, worked in Public Safety for 20+ years, has been in academia part time for 10+ years, and has a number of graduate level degrees (MS, Ed.D.)
Maybe I am an exception to the "rule" that everyone above seems to believe in, but I don't think that I am some egghead who can't function with all members of society, given that I do that on a daily basis
I would agree that our "Education System" is a joke on many levels, however without some form of higher education, where are we really going to be?
As precision long range shooters, where would we all be without higher education? Sorry, but things like Engineering, Mathematics, and Physics are not just things that you are born with or just pick up. Personally I am glad that people like Bryan Litz are around, someone was willing to teach him, he was willing to learn, and he has been willing to share what he knows.
Hate to say it, but given the parenting skills of today, and the kids that are a result of it, hats off to the teachers who can came up with anything to help them learn and move forward.
Feel free to stereotype and bash on!
No offense Maggot, but this is Dunning Kruger at work. Ask any undergraduate computer engineering student who has had to build a decimal calculator with binary circuits. Base 2 and Base 10 conversions come in handy.
The sooner kids are introduced to more complex ways of thinking and their aptitude can be identified, the further along they will be when they finally enter the job market. We have the most developed education system in the world, and foreign students are the ones who seem to be taking the most advantage of it, especially in the STEM areas.
I wonder how many people on this site who have earned a degree, actually work in the area of that degree. Most of the guys I know do not. It usually has to do with the opportunities that present themselves.
What the fuck do I know, I'm still counting on my fingers.
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How about this one boys:
1. Let a and b be equal non-zero quantities
a = b
2. Multiply by a
aa = ab
3. Subtract bb
aa - bb = ab - bb
4. Factor both sides
(a - b)(a + b) = b(a - b)
5. Divide out (a - b)
a + b = b
6. Observing that a = b
b + b = b
7. Combine like terms on the left
2b = b
8. Divide by the non-zero b
2 = 1
Now, can anyone find the fallacy? Think dividing by "zero".
Enjoy.
You are more correct than you might realize. "I have always maintained the higher you go the dumber you get." And for the vast majority this holds. Seeing as I have been in University for the past ten years and hoping to round out in the next year, I have a rather long and colorful history of the bubble that is academia.
Strictly speaking you get two groups of PhD's: the first are those who think that anyone with out a PhD is not worth their time, and the second are so focused on one topic that they can't tie their shoes!
Personally I take jobs and opportunities to get dirty and work with everyone. Most of my work experience has been with people who may or may not have a GED. Still learned lots, and quite enjoyed getting back to the real world. I aim to be one much like the illusive 'honest lawyer'.
I watched a video of a chimpanzee fucking a frog the other day. I didn't have to divide by any-goddamned-thing.
How about this one boys:
1. Let a and b be equal non-zero quantities
a = b
2. Multiply by a
aa = ab
3. Subtract bb
aa - bb = ab - bb
4. Factor both sides
(a - b)(a + b) = b(a - b)
5. Divide out (a - b)
a + b = b
6. Observing that a = b
b + b = b
7. Combine like terms on the left
2b = b
8. Divide by the non-zero b
2 = 1
Now, can anyone find the fallacy? Think dividing by "zero".
Enjoy.
That's a good point and possibly the crux of the problem. Teaching down and passing some who don't deserve passing. When I taught in a tech school I had students that were certainly challenged to keep up. Extra help and assignments would often fix the problem but some were so entrenched with the participation trophy mentality that doing more was not going to happen. In that case passing my course didn't happen either.Unfortunately teachers have to work with the lowest common denominator in the classroom, which means the others in that class will only receive that level of instruction. We will continue to let the rest of the work catch and surpass us in education until we allow the grade placement based on capability, not age. But that would be unfair. 'No child left behind' is really 'no child move ahead'.
As to common core, I have Electrical Engineering degree and Computer Engineering degree, suffice to say I've got my maths pretty much down... and this sh&t is ridiculous. If a system this complicated is needed to teach simple addition, God help them when they move to differential equations and n-dimensional math. At least I have job security, I don't have to worry about my job being replaced by some youngster one day! (joking of course)
My father only had a 3rd grade education, writing any more that his signature was a challenge, reading required sounding out each word. Not so with numbers, he could add a row of five digit figures (especially if it had a decimal point) as fast as he could move a pencil down the column. In his head he "broke down" the numbers, then added the results, just as common core does. NOT being numerically blessed, that seemed truly awesome (and impossible) to me. Perhaps it has a place in higher math related education, but just being properly versed in the basics as always taught would be a huge step upward for most modern high school grads. Notice the look of terror that crosses their face if you offer em a penny or two in change AFTER they ring up your sale.
Bob
Having been to the schools of both the haves, and the haves-not, I think the primary difference is with the parent (early on) and with the students (later on). Without a parent(s) or other role model capable of making a serious impression it is less likely for the child to pursue a good education. The problem of education in America will not be solved by think tanks, congressional sub-committees, or teachers unions. They will be solved, or not, in the home.
what I don't get is why this match "trick" is special enough to make the news. I turn 50 years old this month and teachers taught this trick when I was in the 5th grade.
[MENTION=18615]rdsii64[/MENTION], this cannot be the case. Common Core has brought us fiction merged into fact. Common Core is born of a philosophy that has transitioned us from the medieval world, at last dying an uneasy death thanks to the National Governors Association Center for Best Practices, Council of Chief State School Officers. Or maybe, just maybe, it's that schools serve the political and economic order in which they operate, and whether they deserve a passing or a failing grade begs the prior question asking what it is they’re supposed to teach. The answers change with time and circumstance.what I don't get is why this match "trick" is special enough to make the news. I turn 50 years old this month and teachers taught this trick when I was in the 5th grade.
What the fuck do I know, I'm still counting on my fingers.
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