PRS Talk 90 deg throw or 60 deg throw?
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I've had my hands on both, and own a 90* throw and the truth is you'll be served best by whatever one you're used to. Whichever one you buy, you'll get used to it.
When i buy actions i put priority to features like controlled round feed, because i truly believe there is a quantifiable difference in reliability (i shoot a 6br so feeding the short cases can be problematic) . So pick the action that checks all your other boxes, and get used to whatever bolt throw it has.
When i buy actions i put priority to features like controlled round feed, because i truly believe there is a quantifiable difference in reliability (i shoot a 6br so feeding the short cases can be problematic) . So pick the action that checks all your other boxes, and get used to whatever bolt throw it has.
The only real positive i've found is if you have a tendency to mash your hand into your scope, sometimes im less than smooth and ill hit my hand on my magnification lever if its in the right spot, 60 degree gives you a bit more room up top.
I’m a huge fan of 60* throw. My AI’s have it and one of my hunting rifles. In theory it’s faster then a 90* but I don’t want to argue that point as I’m sure there are guys out there who can run a 90* bolt faster then I can run 60*. To me it flows better and makes it harder to smash your hand on the scope if they are close.
Doesn't really matter. When shooting in matches you won't feel the difference and with practice both can be run fast. It's really a nit pick point. Nothing I would use to sway me one way or another in choosing a rifle.
60 but, if they made a 30* or 15* I'd be considering those as well. For 99% of all shooting bolt throw means nothing, but for that last 1%, time is everything.
90°.
The whole speed argument for 60° bolt throws is a joke. You don't shoot better and faster by slamming the bolt open and closed as fast as possible - you do it by being smooth and controlled. Look at the best and fastest PRS shooters, such as Matt Brosseau or Dave Preston. They shoot stages very quickly and precisely, and they operate their bolts in a very smooth and controlled motion.
There are other features of an action that are more important.
The whole speed argument for 60° bolt throws is a joke. You don't shoot better and faster by slamming the bolt open and closed as fast as possible - you do it by being smooth and controlled. Look at the best and fastest PRS shooters, such as Matt Brosseau or Dave Preston. They shoot stages very quickly and precisely, and they operate their bolts in a very smooth and controlled motion.
There are other features of an action that are more important.
If you are a lefty and want to run a S&B PMII for glass 60 degree throw is the only way to go because you have better clearance of the illumination knob. Other than that it is what you are comfortable with
A good coating such as DLC or nitride, gall resistant, doesn't bind at all when working the action from any position, dust/weather resistant, standard rem700 footprint, robust extractor, light and smooth bolt lift and close, large bolt knob for extra leverage, Feed ramp not in the way of long OAL loads, 20+ MOA rail, rail designed such that it cannot come loose/move, etc.
You'll feel the difference between banging your knuckles against the scope and not banging your knuckles against the scope if you're the "ram and jam" type on the bolt.
That comes from improper weapon set up and training. Never had an issue with a 90 degree throw hitting any scope I have used and used a lot of them over the past 25 years.
Agree with the above in saying that it’s a wash... Pick the one that feels better you you and run it, smooth and deliberate are faster, etc. etc.
What I will add is that any notion of 60 degs being faster to manipulate in general are offset by the lift... 3-lug 60s, generally speaking, have considerably heavier lifts than 2-lug 90s.
I’ve run both and kept my 90s because my movements are more controlled - I’m able to stay on target in unstable positions whereas heavier lifts I’ve found to delay my follow-up timing. Obviously there are guys that can run both very proficiently, but it just goes to show that it really comes down to nothing more than preference.
What I will add is that any notion of 60 degs being faster to manipulate in general are offset by the lift... 3-lug 60s, generally speaking, have considerably heavier lifts than 2-lug 90s.
I’ve run both and kept my 90s because my movements are more controlled - I’m able to stay on target in unstable positions whereas heavier lifts I’ve found to delay my follow-up timing. Obviously there are guys that can run both very proficiently, but it just goes to show that it really comes down to nothing more than preference.
I own both 60 and 90 degrees bolt throws and be be completely honest, if you shoot them enough, you don't notice a difference. When you are focused on whats down range and having your bullet hit its mark, the last thing you are thinking of is a 60 vs 90 degree bolt throw. So if you are torn between the two, the best recommendation I can give is to look at the other features the actions offer and base it off that. Go with your gut and you won't be disappointed.
It’s still a good discussion to have. There are plenty of guys that will face the same decision and it’s good to see what others with experience have to say about each.
