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A Message from Jim @ Prime Ammo
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Just put out a sale notice about 40 min ago.
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BOOM....how about that? Thanks, Jim.
Website shows three different option in .223 right now.
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Website shows three different option in .223 right now.
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At PRIME Ammunition we believe that with great freedom, comes great responsibility and our Constitutional Rights can only be fully realized if we are able to put the right bullet, in the right place, at the right time, for the right reason. Subsequently, we have partnered with the world's...
Nice, looks like it’s scheduled to start shipping on 9/20. I’ll place an order shortly.
If you look at their website, and read the details...the .308 uses Fiocchi brass.
but if you read the details on the 6.5 cm, it doesn't give the same info, like it doesn't say what brass or projectile. i wonder why they are so clear about the 223 ammo but not the 6.5cm ammo.
The 6.5 is Peterson Brass. There are real pictures of it in the wild. No question or mystery about it.
but it also says Petersen is a supplier. Hence the confusion. Now, maybe Petersen is doing the loading, but why would they load something that they had no components in especailly when it reads like Spark is doing the loading? Or maybe im just reading too much into the copy and they used the generic copy even though it doesnt 100% apply to the 308 ammo. Guess it really doesnt matter, i dont even shoot 308. Just trying to learn what this new breed of Prime is.
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so what is the final word on the projectile?
i suppose there might be pictures of it in the wild but my point is that prime very clearly describes their 223 ammo in the 223 details but doesn't in the 6.5 cm details,,,,, that is what the mystery is, why not put the same details out there. i've bought quite a bit of prime ammo, still have a bunch but why do people who want to know what their ammo is comprised of have to hunt down the details of the 6.5 on a forum or out in the wild,,,,,be a lot easier for customers to just read it on their website, like the 223 and even 308.
I haven’t bought any ammunition for myself in years but I thought I’d try some of the new 6.5CM prime and support a company that supports SH.
Here are my unscientific findings:
Peterson brass, white metal colored primer. Shipped directly from Pennsylvania, where Peterson Cartridge company is located.
2.788 COAL
2.182 CBTO
Appears to have 41.2gr of Propellant (additional .02 is from me, moving too fast in front of scale)
Propellant appears to be H4350. I say it appears to be.....
Left: 6.5mm Berger 130gr AR Hybrid OTM. Center: 6.5CM prime projectile. Right: 6.5mm 130gr Norma Golden Target
Performance: 27.0MOA to 1000 yards DA was 1800 (26” 8 twist Rock barreled M700) At one point I fired 20 rounds as fast as I could work the bolt at my 15x25 IPSA plate; had 17 hits. @Defender3 was spotting for me.
Ring on center projectile is from comparator.
Here are my unscientific findings:
Peterson brass, white metal colored primer. Shipped directly from Pennsylvania, where Peterson Cartridge company is located.
2.788 COAL
2.182 CBTO
Appears to have 41.2gr of Propellant (additional .02 is from me, moving too fast in front of scale)
Propellant appears to be H4350. I say it appears to be.....
Left: 6.5mm Berger 130gr AR Hybrid OTM. Center: 6.5CM prime projectile. Right: 6.5mm 130gr Norma Golden Target
Performance: 27.0MOA to 1000 yards DA was 1800 (26” 8 twist Rock barreled M700) At one point I fired 20 rounds as fast as I could work the bolt at my 15x25 IPSA plate; had 17 hits. @Defender3 was spotting for me.
Ring on center projectile is from comparator.
good info, thanks! just from the picture, i would have to say they are not using the berger, wouldn't you?
i mean, to me it's no big deal what projectile it is, just wanna know cause it is easier to put into a ballistics program
ok, got some info
the projectile is a new bullet which is a 130 gr sierra match king, unpointed and is almost ballistically the same as the old norma bullet.
the best ballistic choice in the kestrel is to use the old norma gold target ( the same as the old prime ammo) and it should be about right on.
the new bullet will be sent off to AB and will be added to library in the future.
and as we all know by now,,, peterson brass for the 6.5, 6mm, 338, 260 etc but fiocchi for 223 and 308.
i think prime might update their site as well with this info.
the projectile is a new bullet which is a 130 gr sierra match king, unpointed and is almost ballistically the same as the old norma bullet.
the best ballistic choice in the kestrel is to use the old norma gold target ( the same as the old prime ammo) and it should be about right on.
the new bullet will be sent off to AB and will be added to library in the future.
and as we all know by now,,, peterson brass for the 6.5, 6mm, 338, 260 etc but fiocchi for 223 and 308.
i think prime might update their site as well with this info.
Maybe Prime has added the pointing process to there ammunition specs and are doing it prior to or during cartridge assembly.
The projectile sure does look like a boat tail SMK style profile, so that’s not surprising to me.
The projectile sure does look like a boat tail SMK style profile, so that’s not surprising to me.
i was relaying info i was told by jim which is that the bullets are not specifically pointed to increase bc for target/match type stuff
and i am sure that prime does not do any pointing, the way it was explained to me is that the bullets stay the way they come from sierra.
he said the "point" (ha ha) of the new bullet was to be close to the old norma so that folks would have little to no change in their dope from the old ammo. (that was one of the goals of the new bullet anyway)
jim told me it was ok to quietly post this info and that he was more than likely going to put it in the detail section of the 6.5 ammo.
i will say that i ordered some smk's in 6mm 107gr a while back and they look pointed to me but i didn't order pointed nor did i know they came like that, but they sure looked a lot more pointed than some 150gr 6.5 smk's i had been shooting ( in another gun obviously)
Even in the picture of the projectiles above? Looks unpointed to me. The only pointed bullets I have had are jlk’s so my sample size is small.
The pictured point looks exactly like the 183smk 7mms I just bought and loaded. If I ordered "pointed" and they arrived as such, I'd want some money back. It's definitely a different profile on the tip, but far from a pointed bullet.
Happy user of old "euro" Prime ammo here - both the product and service were always top notch. Very interested in trying out the new US-made 6.5 CM at the earliest opportunity.
That being said, I live behind the Iron Curtain in California. As of July 1st out-of-state online ammo purchases are only possible to California consumers with FFL 03 and CA Certificate of Eligibility (CoE) paperwork. Any plans to support this avenue?
Best,
Vipunen
That being said, I live behind the Iron Curtain in California. As of July 1st out-of-state online ammo purchases are only possible to California consumers with FFL 03 and CA Certificate of Eligibility (CoE) paperwork. Any plans to support this avenue?
Best,
Vipunen
Yes. See his other answers to this question below:
Confirmed already ordered and received in CA, email them your ffl information and you are gtg.
Thank you, Sean. This is what I was hoping to hear. Just chatted with Jim while forwarding the license paperwork. Should have the CA deliveries available soon.
Going to be working on my 800yd and beyond groups soon...
Also getting some of the new 9mm when that ships. Very excited!Cheers,
Vipunen
Just got email update from Prime confirming they use a 130 Sierra OTM on their 6.5CM.
I just shot he last 2 boxes I had from the old Prime last weekend, best factory ammo I've ever shot
Nothing but love for Prime.
I just shot he last 2 boxes I had from the old Prime last weekend, best factory ammo I've ever shot
Nothing but love for Prime.
Is Fiocchi brass problematic? Has anyone had any results as far as accuracy and consistency?
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