A serious warning about pitbulls.

Re: A serious warning about pitbulls.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Clark</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would like to put a trained and well behaved rattle snake in the sleeping bag of every pit bull owner. </div></div>

Ahh mindless hatred, how I love it. I am sorry you were attacked by a pit bull but this hate mongering against a whole breed of dogs due to an incident with a particular dog is insane. A small percentage of handguns are used to kill people, lets ban those FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will say that there are a good amount of people that own bully breeds that have no business doing so though.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Clark</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here is from a snake owner:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> snake is almost like a dog. If it is angry, it'll bite, like many other animals. Some snakes may not bite. Some relave a spray, while other's show body parts. Yet, just like a dog, a snake knows when it's being bad, when it strikes, it may draw blood. lightly tap your sanke on the nose, but not too light, you want your snake to know who is the boss. Not too hard so it does it again. Wash your hands. Snakes are very low maintenance on thereselves. Therefore, they carry alot of germs.</div></div>

I would like to put a trained and well behaved rattle snake in the sleeping bag of every pit bull owner. </div></div>

Clark I'm sure I don't have to ask but you don't own any firearms right?? Because your emotional illogical total across the board hatred of a dog breed is the EXACT argument the anti gunnies use."Some one was hurt by a gun so they are evil as are their owners"
 
Re: A serious warning about pitbulls.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Clark</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here is from a snake owner:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> snake is almost like a dog. If it is angry, it'll bite, like many other animals. Some snakes may not bite. Some relave a spray, while other's show body parts. Yet, just like a dog, a snake knows when it's being bad, when it strikes, it may draw blood. lightly tap your sanke on the nose, but not too light, you want your snake to know who is the boss. Not too hard so it does it again. Wash your hands. Snakes are very low maintenance on thereselves. Therefore, they carry alot of germs.</div></div>

I would like to put a trained and well behaved rattle snake in the sleeping bag of every pit bull owner. </div></div>

Do I get half a rattle snake for having a pit bull mutt?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tacshooter223</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Do I get half a rattle snake for having a pit bull mutt?
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You are only half as likely to get sued for everything and do jail time, when your dog rips off some kid's face.
 
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It all goes back to the owners.. Good owner good dog...
Just like you are supposed to be responsible for your kids. Alot of people let their kids run and don't know where they are half the time. And before you know it no guidance or authority then theyr'e in trouble or pregnant.
I think cell phones {texting} do alot more damage but I could be wrong.
 
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Vicious man killers. . . this was almost 5 years ago, and they still havnt killed anyone or anything. They dont even chase smaller animals, other dogs or rip baby's faces off. But this must be impossible, since its bred into them and all. Actually the only casualty that has even been suffered was the left shoe of the pair in the photo, and that only happened once. Should I have put them down?

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Wow. I can see this thread getting shut down for "political" reasons.

The way I look at it is, there are no good or bad dogs. Some dogs just snap.

Just like people do for no apparent reason.

I got taken down by a childhood friend's GSD who broke his chain and ran up to me and BAM. Does that mean I hate them? No. I was afraid of them growing up but now I've gotten over it and am looking to get a GSD to protect my family at home.

Next to Siberian Husky, the GSD is one of the most beautiful dogs! I don't think a Siberian Husky would make a good defense dog however...

Not my dogs but you get the point:

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All I can say is pussies will be pussies and they will always expect others to pussy for them so they can be the best safety nazi. Grow the hell up, take resposibility for your dogs, and for the others, yes, it happened. Learn form it, get on with living an dstop being a pussy with a gun.
Dogs and kids as aforementioned are teh same. Some are very smart, and some are, well, they are there...someone needs to do Smart ones will be fine with proper schooling, and the dumb ones, well they will have victims and be victims to some extent sometime, but sorry ladies, NOTHING is as bad as a pussy with a gun.
 
Re: A serious warning about pitbulls.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nly205</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Vicious man killers. . . this was almost 5 years ago, and they still havnt killed anyone or anything. They dont even chase smaller animals, other dogs or rip baby's faces off. But this must be impossible, since its bred into them and all. Actually the only casualty that has even been suffered was the left shoe of the pair in the photo, and that only happened once. Should I have put them down?

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wait a frigging minute!!! That one on the left is <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">clearly</span></span> plotting something...
 
Re: A serious warning about pitbulls.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Clark</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here is from a snake owner:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> snake is almost like a dog. If it is angry, it'll bite, like many other animals. Some snakes may not bite. Some relave a spray, while other's show body parts. Yet, just like a dog, a snake knows when it's being bad, when it strikes, it may draw blood. lightly tap your sanke on the nose, but not too light, you want your snake to know who is the boss. Not too hard so it does it again. Wash your hands. Snakes are very low maintenance on thereselves. Therefore, they carry alot of germs.</div></div>

You're a class act Clark. Way to take the high road on this one.


I would like to put a trained and well behaved rattle snake in the sleeping bag of every pit bull owner. </div></div>
 
Re: A serious warning about pitbulls.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Clark</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here is from a snake owner:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> snake is almost like a dog. If it is angry, it'll bite, like many other animals. Some snakes may not bite. Some relave a spray, while other's show body parts. Yet, just like a dog, a snake knows when it's being bad, when it strikes, it may draw blood. lightly tap your sanke on the nose, but not too light, you want your snake to know who is the boss. Not too hard so it does it again. Wash your hands. Snakes are very low maintenance on thereselves. Therefore, they carry alot of germs.</div></div>

I would like to put a trained and well behaved rattle snake in the sleeping bag of every pit bull owner. </div></div>

I would love to see that. Im sure most pitbull owners would probably hand you your ass if they caught you reaching into their sleeping bags. Very Michael Jackson of you btw.....

Ive been kicked by a horse but I dont hate all horses and want to start a glue factory.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Ive been kicked by a horse but I dont hate all horses and want to start a glue factory. </div></div>

In the head right?

Just a lucky guess...
 
Re: A serious warning about pitbulls.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Clark</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When I see a pit bull, I get my hand in my pocket and get a hold of my...</div></div>

Im just worried about some guy walking around with his hand in his pocket...
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This one's about to eat that other dog...

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On a side note, I vote to let this thread die. Nobody's going to change anybody's mind here, so let it go
 
Re: A serious warning about pitbulls.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Clark</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When I see a pit bull, I get my hand in my pocket and get a hold of my pistol. I get ready for the quick draw with my right arm and put my sacrificial left arm forward.

When the neighbor's Rottweiler bit another neighbor's dog, the police showed up and shot the Rottweiler. The shot dog ran off. The local grade schools were on lock down, and the TV news truck parked here with generators running all night, waiting for the dog to come home.
I spotted the wanted dog and called it in. A minute later a dog catcher truck sped past me, following my tip.

I never felt like I had to grip my gun when I saw the Rottweiler, because no Rottweiler had ever ripped me into hamburger.

My only wish is that pit bull owners could share my point of view. </div></div>


Oh. My. God.
Where to start dissecting this diatribe of utter heroics...

Ok, first and foremost you are just too fucking cool for words. I now sadly regret no naming my children after you.

A Rotty bites another dog and everyone flips out. You rip open your shirt to reveal the big S and drop a dime on the dog, and now you're afraid of Pit Bulls?

For the lovely sake of agruement, can you tell me why you feel the need to get ready to shoot a dog on mere sight alone, stud?

Inquiring minds want to know...
 
Re: A serious warning about pitbulls.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EventHorizon</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Ive been kicked by a horse but I dont hate all horses and want to start a glue factory. </div></div>

In the head right?

Just a lucky guess... </div></div>

Actually in the arm. Had to ice it but I was lucky. Seen a lot of guys get broken arms, clavicals, femur, etc. Horses have some serious power behind those short kicks if you spook them.

But that was almost funny EH.
 
Re: A serious warning about pitbulls.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Clark</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

So your talking about a rott when this thread is about a pitbull.... that doesn't really pertain to this discussion. </div></div>
I was contrasting my reactions to seeing pitbulls, after one ripped me into hamburger, and my reaction to seeing Rottweilers.
There is the difference between salient knowledge and cognitive knowledge.
And I stated that pitbull owners should share my salient knowledge.
I can't imagine how a post could be more pertinent to "A serious warning about pitbulls." </div></div>

Your fear is strictly Psychological from 1 truly bad experience, so should we assume anytime you have a horrific experience with any species whether it be a dog, bear, kitten, clown, or parrot that you will have the same biased because of 1 bad experience? I've been bit by 4 dogs, and my father had his arm ripped open as bad as the photo you posted by a wolf/husky mix. Do I blame the dog? Nope... because my father was drunk and retarded while out hunting and tried to take a piece of beef jerky from him, and got what he deserved for stealing food from a animal with bigger teeth. I'd still own a Husky in a heartbeat...

You'll always have Auburn, WA Clark...


 
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26 years of running a UPS truck I can tell you, even though I wouldn't own one, that the Pit Bull has never given me any problems on my route. They are almost always really friendly.
If I had to say which breed gave me the most problem it would be a Blue Heeler followed by a Winnie dog and a German Sheppard. I can usually read a dogs body language, but here is something to remember with dogs. I have so many customers walk to the door and say oh my dog don't bite! My reply He's got teeth don't he? Now come get your package! I've seen so many dogs that never ever pay me any attention, but as soon as their owner walks to the door they want to rip my leg off!
BTW the best dog spray is foaming wasp spray! They don't want anymore once you hit them with that.
Over the years there has been a lot of hurt feelings and even a treat to life when I kicked a Jack Russell across the yard for trying to bite me. All I can say is people keep your dogs in the house or the back yard fence.
 
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This big pussy cat wouldn't hurt anyone.

How can you complain about a few lions running around your neighborhood.

Those people who got eaten were winers.

"A serious warning about lions".. what a crock. I love my pet. You will just have to endure the risk.
 
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If you love your pet then you learn how to control it. Shit happens, dogs escape, but I think that if you look at the statistical average then most dog bites are a result of human negligence in some way.

Some dogs are batshit insane, so are some people. I don't go around holding my gun when I see drunk people, even though i've had to draw on a drunk before. He was also hispanic, I don't freak out around hispanic people.

I've been bitten by my own GSD, though not seriously harmed. That was my bad for screwing with her food. She has since learned not to freak out about food through good training, but I still realize that I shouldn't have put my hand there until I had trained her. Little kids don't get that, and as such they often get bit because they don't know better. Sometimes they are targeted because they are small/weak, but that happens as often from sicko humans as it does nutty dogs. My cousin was bitten as a child by his mom's beautiful Australian shepherd, food related again. That's not the dog's issue, it's his lazy ass mother's fault for not training it. I asked her time and again to give me the dog and allow me to correct it, but she never would. After that incident, thanks to bitchy neighbors (who remind me a lot of you clark), the city seized it and killed it. What a waste, and to everyone except the kid and dog involved, I extend a hearty "fuck you".

I'm sorry that you got bit, but you're still alive so perhaps you ought to be thankful for that at least and stop living in a fantasy land of pathological fear. You really ought to seek some professional help, it's not healthy to be scared like that. Behaving as you do has reduced you to the level of the same animals you fear, where acts are done on pure emotion. You're every bit as dangerous as any pit, walking around ready to pull your gun on anything that looks at you cross-eyed.

As for the rattlesnake thing, I know you're just blowing smoke because that's how people like you work. But i'll tell ya what, if you shoot a dog out of pure, unprovoked fear then I hope the owner shoots back.
 
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My dog is likely a pit mixed with great dane. I used to be a dog trainer and have pretty extensive experience with a variety of dogs. That said, <span style="text-decoration: underline"> I</span> trust <span style="text-decoration: underline"> MY</span> dog in any circumstance when under my supervision. He is a big pussy most of the time, not protective of himself at all and lets little dogs and kids whoop up on him on a regular basis. He is however protective of me and cautious of strangers when in my company. Take him to the dog park and he's just there to have fun and will lick the face of anyone who gets within range of his tongue. I don't know of another of God's creatures that is such a perfect specimine of capability mixed with strength and athleticism as a well bred pit. That, imo, is both most admirable as well as their downfall in a purely physical sense. On the other hand, pits are extremely smart and trainable animals when ranked amongst their peers in my estimation. THAT, combined with my experience is what leads me to believe that it comes down to the owners of such dogs as to how the animal turns out. The "anti" crowd wants to play both sides of that arguement only in a way to benefit their position, it may work on an ignorant few, but it doesn't wash with me. My stance is that responsible and capable pit owners own dogs that won't ever harm a person. How many of these pit attack stories start with, "I was in my own backyard when this fire-eyed pit on the loose attacked me."? Or, "I was walking down the street and out of nowhere two pits cornered me."? Most? My arguement is that the same people that shouldn't own any dog at all should certainly not own any breed that is capable of doing large amounts of damage to a person or other animal. The dogs that are out attacking people and other dogs are not owned by responsible dog owners. Responsible dog owners don't let their dog wander the streets. Responsible dog owners don't leave kids and strange animals alone and unsupervised with their dogs. Responsible dog owners train, reinforce and demand compliance of basic obedience of their dogs and in ALL circumstances. All dog attacks are preventable given responsible dog owners.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bryan27</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My dog is likely a pit mixed with great dane. I used to be a dog trainer and have pretty extensive experience with a variety of dogs. That said, <span style="text-decoration: underline"> I</span> trust <span style="text-decoration: underline"> MY</span> dog in any circumstance when under my supervision. He is a big pussy most of the time, not protective of himself at all and lets little dogs and kids whoop up on him on a regular basis. He is however protective of me and cautious of strangers when in my company. Take him to the dog park and he's just there to have fun and will lick the face of anyone who gets within range of his tongue. I don't know of another of God's creatures that is such a perfect specimine of capability mixed with strength and athleticism as a well bred pit. That, imo, is both most admirable as well as their downfall in a purely physical sense. On the other hand, pits are extremely smart and trainable animals when ranked amongst their peers in my estimation. THAT, combined with my experience is what leads me to believe that it comes down to the owners of such dogs as to how the animal turns out. The "anti" crowd wants to play both sides of that arguement only in a way to benefit their position, it may work on an ignorant few, but it doesn't wash with me. My stance is that responsible and capable pit owners own dogs that won't ever harm a person. How many of these pit attack stories start with, "I was in my own backyard when this fire-eyed pit on the loose attacked me."? Or, "I was walking down the street and out of nowhere two pits cornered me."? Most? My arguement is that the same people that shouldn't own any dog at all should certainly not own any breed that is capable of doing large amounts of damage to a person or other animal. The dogs that are out attacking people and other dogs are not owned by responsible dog owners. Responsible dog owners don't let their dog wander the streets. Responsible dog owners don't leave kids and strange animals alone and unsupervised with their dogs. Responsible dog owners train, reinforce and demand compliance of basic obedience of their dogs and in ALL circumstances. All dog attacks are preventable given responsible dog owners. </div></div>

I agree. Pitbull owners dont set their dogs loose to go look for something to tear up. You have to be invading their space or trying to cause them harm. Can they snap at you? Sure, but mine has never hurt a person, he lets them know he is there but he wont bite unless you are provoking him.

I think we see more and more of Clark's character as he continues to post. Close minded and incapable of seeing others points of view. Its a shame that people like him think so poorly of a breed after one dog out of thousands has wronged them. So what do you say to people that own exotic animals? What about the woman that had chimps and they ended up eating her fingers and ripping off her face? Well that one chimp flipped out, we should hate all monkeys from now on, they are a terrible animal.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bcw1284</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you love your pet then you learn how to control it. Shit happens, dogs escape, but I think that if you look at the statistical average then most dog bites are a result of human negligence in some way.

Some dogs are batshit insane, so are some people. I don't go around holding my gun when I see drunk people, even though i've had to draw on a drunk before. He was also hispanic, I don't freak out around hispanic people.

I've been bitten by my own GSD, though not seriously harmed. That was my bad for screwing with her food. She has since learned not to freak out about food through good training, but I still realize that I shouldn't have put my hand there until I had trained her. Little kids don't get that, and as such they often get bit because they don't know better. Sometimes they are targeted because they are small/weak, but that happens as often from sicko humans as it does nutty dogs. My cousin was bitten as a child by his mom's beautiful Australian shepherd, food related again. That's not the dog's issue, it's his lazy ass mother's fault for not training it. I asked her time and again to give me the dog and allow me to correct it, but she never would. After that incident, thanks to bitchy neighbors (who remind me a lot of you clark), the city seized it and killed it. What a waste, and to everyone except the kid and dog involved, I extend a hearty "fuck you".

I'm sorry that you got bit, but you're still alive so perhaps you ought to be thankful for that at least and stop living in a fantasy land of pathological fear. You really ought to seek some professional help, it's not healthy to be scared like that. Behaving as you do has reduced you to the level of the same animals you fear, where acts are done on pure emotion. You're every bit as dangerous as any pit, walking around ready to pull your gun on anything that looks at you cross-eyed.

As for the rattlesnake thing, I know you're just blowing smoke because that's how people like you work. But i'll tell ya what, if you shoot a dog out of pure, unprovoked fear then I hope the owner shoots back. </div></div>

Very well thought out and written post. Thank you.

Clark, you would do well to read this post carefully and without a defensive attitude. Your fear could be the worst thing you have going against you.