A sign of the times
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[paul_harvey] And this, mind you, was the table of one of the more reasonable vendors. Good ... day. [/paul_harvey]
PS: Note to the quibblers, not my pic — lifted from elsewhere.
Damn!
Every time I think I've "gotten used to it" I see some shit like this and get mad all over again.
Actually...that guy's price on the SK Standard Plus (assuming that's the brick price and NOT per box/50) is decent. Best I've seen in a while where available was ~$60/brick.
As to the rest...what more can I say aside from: @$$HOLE!!!!!
Hope he chokes on rimfire at those prices!
As to the rest...what more can I say aside from: @$$HOLE!!!!!
Hope he chokes on rimfire at those prices!Actually...that guy's price on the SK Standard Plus (assuming that's the brick price and NOT per box/50) is decent. Best I've seen in a while where available was ~$60/brick.
As to the rest...what more can I say aside from: @$$HOLE!!!!!
Yeah, maybe that's his "loss leader."
I can only blame him so much if there are people out there willing to pay that!
the prices will drop when people just refuse to pay those prices
the prices will drop when people just refuse to pay those prices
Was at an NRA dinner Friday night - one of the auction items was 5K rounds of 22LR, CCI's if I remember right.
Went for about $70 per box of 500, $700 bucks. The guy that won that bid was at our table, he got maybe a dozen offers for it while it was sitting on the table!
Still, a good time was had by all.
Went for about $70 per box of 500, $700 bucks. The guy that won that bid was at our table, he got maybe a dozen offers for it while it was sitting on the table!
Still, a good time was had by all.
The free market people on this board would not call this gouging. Some might even say business has been so brisk, the dealers have had to add employees, therefore; they must charge more! And then again there are those that believe the mom and pop's stores must charge this much, as they are barely making a living as it is, and this tiny little increase will help them through the months ahead. I'm all for free market, but when dealing with firearms/ammo one needs an FFL, therefore; it is not free market, but a limited market. Strict govt. controls do not equal free market anywhere but in Ukraine and Red China. We can only hope that one of these days, the damn bursts. I'm hoping as more equipment is put on line, the profit margins start to leave the 500% range, and go back down to a level where young new shooters can afford to get into our sport. I'll remember the "gougers" when that time comes.
Would it be better for him to just keep me at home so that no 22 is available at all? These threads always pop up...price controls lead to massive shortages where nothing can be bought at any price. If for some reason a guy REALLY needed some 22 and didnt have a friend that had any to give him, sellers like this one ensure that scarce resources are distributed to those who want/need it the most. There isn't a person on this board who hasn't spent that much money at a restaurant for meals they will flush in 5 hours. Unless a gun is to your head, when you trade goods and services both the seller and the buyer are, by definition, better off than before the transaction otherwise they wouldn't do it.
The way that it was put to someone by an FFL that I know, while I was in earshot, was thusly:
"This is what we do, this is all we do, and we've been doing it for years. The way things are going, we don't know for how long we'll be doing it, and the things that we sell today may not be ours to repurchase for resale next month, or next year."
Imagine having a shop full of stock that won't move because of restrictive legislation become a legal reality. Ammunition that can't be sold, firearms that can't be sold, evil accessories that can't be sold — they do nothing to pay the rent, or the mortgage payment, or the lights, or any one of the equally mundane, but pressing obligations of someone in the wholesale or retailing of the stuff that we enjoy. And I'm convinced that these prices aren't ugly because of demand caused by consumption. Most of this isn't being consumed on the range, that's for sure.
"This is what we do, this is all we do, and we've been doing it for years. The way things are going, we don't know for how long we'll be doing it, and the things that we sell today may not be ours to repurchase for resale next month, or next year."
Imagine having a shop full of stock that won't move because of restrictive legislation become a legal reality. Ammunition that can't be sold, firearms that can't be sold, evil accessories that can't be sold — they do nothing to pay the rent, or the mortgage payment, or the lights, or any one of the equally mundane, but pressing obligations of someone in the wholesale or retailing of the stuff that we enjoy. And I'm convinced that these prices aren't ugly because of demand caused by consumption. Most of this isn't being consumed on the range, that's for sure.
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I went to a horrible excuse for a gun show yesterday and one of the "dealers" was clearly cruising local stores for 22 and then reselling it 300% markup. Pathetic, the $20 a box of 50 was still available on the shelves down the street where he got it for $5. He had a sign on his table saying not to comment on his thievery.
There was a "no pictures" sign at the door. I knew why as soon as I saw the first table and the $2500 KSG and $4k ACR. Those dealers don't want the negative press.
I completely support their right to charge whatever they want. I also vote with my $ and will share my opinion with everyone I know. These folks won't ever get a dime of my money. The honest businesses will be around when all these thieves are on to their next scam.
Sent from my mind via apathy.
There was a "no pictures" sign at the door. I knew why as soon as I saw the first table and the $2500 KSG and $4k ACR. Those dealers don't want the negative press.
I completely support their right to charge whatever they want. I also vote with my $ and will share my opinion with everyone I know. These folks won't ever get a dime of my money. The honest businesses will be around when all these thieves are on to their next scam.
Sent from my mind via apathy.
Y'all have better constitutions than me--Tucker301, I wouldn't only go to a gun show, I'd buy several bricks of 22lr if I got free beer and BJ's.
Gun shows in my neck of the woods are fairly lame, good for an occasional Colt SAA or old model ruger, but mostly old beaten up, rusted shit. Oh, and $85 bricks of 22. No beer or BJ's, at least neither you'd want.
Gun shows in my neck of the woods are fairly lame, good for an occasional Colt SAA or old model ruger, but mostly old beaten up, rusted shit. Oh, and $85 bricks of 22. No beer or BJ's, at least neither you'd want.
Exactly, and when you run a business with inventory you must sell products at prices based on what you can replace the item at, not what you bought it at. Otherwise, you will run out of stock with no cash flow to replace it.
That said, there are surely sellers buying from distributors at normal prices and marking up a few hundred percent. I don't think that is a wise business move if you are planning to be in business long term, because being labeled a gouger will hurt your future business. If you are a big enough business to keep your prices low and make it up with volume or float it until things improve that may be a smart move because gun owners have longer memories than the average consumer I'd say.
That said, there are surely sellers buying from distributors at normal prices and marking up a few hundred percent. I don't think that is a wise business move if you are planning to be in business long term, because being labeled a gouger will hurt your future business. If you are a big enough business to keep your prices low and make it up with volume or float it until things improve that may be a smart move because gun owners have longer memories than the average consumer I'd say.
I'm surprised .22LR ammo is still so crazy, around here the ammo prices at the stores are pretty reasonable again (if still a bit high).
The worst part about this entire situation is that people still don't realize that the price of things have not really increased much. The value of our currency has decreased, drastically.
It's not just ammo. It's everything. There are consequences to running the country like a drunken college student. Result: Our compensation has not been able to keep pace with the price of goods. As a result, our standard of living and quality of life will continue to deteriorate. The middle class is being systematically eliminated.
How many million dollars have been spent on the healthcare website that still doesn't work? The government is a money burning machine. Yet that is only half the problem as it relates to ammo. The other half is the tax-sponsored 24/7 war on gun ownership in this country. It has made hoarders out of average shooters. Anyone trying to do a little shooting is met with empty shelves at all of their local stores. So they hit the internet and buy a lifetime supply... as many times as they can afford to do it.
If this shit keeps up at the pace it has, you'll look back on this thread a year from now and wish you bought every goddamn brick on that table.
It's not just ammo. It's everything. There are consequences to running the country like a drunken college student. Result: Our compensation has not been able to keep pace with the price of goods. As a result, our standard of living and quality of life will continue to deteriorate. The middle class is being systematically eliminated.
How many million dollars have been spent on the healthcare website that still doesn't work? The government is a money burning machine. Yet that is only half the problem as it relates to ammo. The other half is the tax-sponsored 24/7 war on gun ownership in this country. It has made hoarders out of average shooters. Anyone trying to do a little shooting is met with empty shelves at all of their local stores. So they hit the internet and buy a lifetime supply... as many times as they can afford to do it.
If this shit keeps up at the pace it has, you'll look back on this thread a year from now and wish you bought every goddamn brick on that table.
ammo is at least back on the shelves for everything but .22 cal. Every bubble must burst. On the other hand - get it while you can. I think the price on the Thunderbolt is wrong though. I don't think it is all that great for the price.
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