Re: AAC - am I screwed?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chainring</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The point of the sheeple comment is that the guy doing the posting had never experienced any problems or even owned a centerfire AAC can...he was following someone else's post. Thus, "sheeple." You know, a sheep...
You (Pete Saker) are not who I was calling a "sheeple." You are one of the few who actually have what you consider to be a problem. Really it's a tolerance issue - and that IS a problem for a precision shooter.
The 18 tooth mounts had tons of tolerance and didn't reliably stay tight for some folks.
The 51 tooth mounts have less tolerance, because there are more teeth.
The 90 tooth mounts reduce tolerance even more.
Tolerance in the mounting system is not the result of evil or dishonest intentions, it's a result of the type of mount.
I wish mine was a 90 tooth SR7, but it's just not that much trouble to make sure my N6 mounts are tight. The "issue" has been blown out of proportion, partially by SHEEPLE. It's an appropriate use of the word.
Most folks with bullet hoses who go kill tin cans and hogs don't have a problem with the amount of slack involved - they just like the ability to fast attach - but the precision guys do. For them, tuning a mount, selecting a mount, or getting the 90 tooth version are all potential ways to get tighter fits that please them.
These and similar discussions are what drive companies to refine products. As more companies put out more, tighter, lighter, quieter, more versatile cans, the more the older designs are surpassed. (You know, the old truck/new truck parallel?) That doesn't mean that they were put out with dishonest intent or knowingly sub par. They are sub-par by today's standards. Once the 90 tooth is actually on the market, I would never recommend that one buy the 51 tooth - the 90 tooth has tighter tolerances. Until then, the 51 tooth is a great setup for most folks, and if you want a really tight fit (and your mount and can combo don't already have it) then it's an easy fix.
AAC isn't Microsoft. You are free to select a mount, tune a mount, not worry about it, or pre-order an SR7. There's no deception involved. If you feel like there is excessive slop and you run it by Mers and he agrees, they take the can back and check it out for you. Several folks have sent their's in.
Folks gotta use a little logic when you contemplate the tolerances that are achievable with a mass-manufactured ACME thread ratchet mount. It was designed for FAST ATTACH, and does that job admirably. As we all start trying to shoot tiny groups with our old can, we are going to start noticing and placing importance on other features such as sealing blowback, tight lockup, etc. That's when a manufacturer starts refining the original design to suit the market. 51 tooth for tighter lockup and staying tight during semi-auto use. Now, a 90 tooth for even better lockup. It's normal, not evil, subversive, or surprising.
In fact, if you are going to use it as your Precision Gun can alone, then you might want to consider a suppressor that was designed for Precision guns...not fast attach and durability under heavy volumes of fire.
I ordered mine as a suppressor for a 16 inch AR10 that will see mostly precision use out to 500 and less, as well as a short .300BLK upper and several 5.56 rifles. Loose, fast-attach mounts on the .300BLK and the 5.56 uppers, and a nice tight mount on the AR10 makes the N6 a fantastic choice for me.
If you want a dedicated precision bolt gun can, I think your choice of a TBAC is spot on. Their "mounting system" was designed from the very beginning to be absolutely a precision gun can. Only now are they acknowledging the market for a QD, multi cal can - which is great, I'd like to have one. That was not their primary market when they started, though. It will be interesting to hear how your N6 works after you tune your mount. Do let us know.
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You are still not getting it, making the suppressor attach to the brake tight enough so that there is no blowback of carbon and gas isnt an "upgrade". Making the suppressor lighter, or more quiet through a new baffle design, thats an "upgrade". Switching gears and saying the N6 isnt a precision suppressor is no more than back pedaling. Sure the TBAC is more suited to it, but i use my Surefire on an LMT 260 out to 1k plus. It has no issues doing what i want it to do without mounting problems.
Again, you shoot your flavor and enjoy it. Others will shoot other flavors. Theres no need to argue about it on the internet. Still you cant deny theres an issue with the mounting system from AAC. To do so is bordering on fanboyism...
Bill
