AAC BLACKOUT rifle - should we do .260 Rem?
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Re: AAC BLACKOUT rifle - should we do .260 Rem?
I'm down with 18 on a .308. I already cut my 5R to 20 and I wish I'd taken the extra 2 inches. You aren't going to take over the general market for 700-based rifles here, you are focusing on the suppressed market. Yeah, you would be losing a few customers by going shorter than 20, most of whom mistakenly believe that barrel length is directly proportional with accuracy...insert shrug here. AAC is a suppressor company, a SHORTY threaded bolt gun from AAC makes sense.
You know what else makes sense? For an edgy, innovative, tip-of-the-spear-type company like AAC, that's owned by Remington, to be the company that makes the MSR Chassis available to the general public. Make mine that nice FDE color that we've been seeing, and slap a skull and crossed rifles on mine, thanks!
I keep coming back to that, I know. Bit of a broken record, I suppose. But seriously...
I'm down with 18 on a .308. I already cut my 5R to 20 and I wish I'd taken the extra 2 inches. You aren't going to take over the general market for 700-based rifles here, you are focusing on the suppressed market. Yeah, you would be losing a few customers by going shorter than 20, most of whom mistakenly believe that barrel length is directly proportional with accuracy...insert shrug here. AAC is a suppressor company, a SHORTY threaded bolt gun from AAC makes sense.
You know what else makes sense? For an edgy, innovative, tip-of-the-spear-type company like AAC, that's owned by Remington, to be the company that makes the MSR Chassis available to the general public. Make mine that nice FDE color that we've been seeing, and slap a skull and crossed rifles on mine, thanks!
I keep coming back to that, I know. Bit of a broken record, I suppose. But seriously...
Re: AAC BLACKOUT rifle - should we do .260 Rem?
I'm glad you're putting this together. I picked up a savage a couple years ago. It's the model with the A5. I bought it just for the stock and because in my experience Savage's tend to have an edge in accuracy.
I also went with the savage because I like their faster (1:10) twist. I added a badger bolt knob. My savage came with a 24" barrel. I knocked it back to 20". I've added a DBM and modified the receiver to accept AW mags and added a 20MOA base.
My $.02:
put it in an A5
add a good DBM
lose the flutes
if you keep the bolt knob make it a badger
offer choice of 16" or 20" tube
and lastly if possible have the receiver cut to accept AW as well as AICS mags.
if this rifle would have been on my dealer's rack I'd be a Remington owner instead of Savage owner.
If you offer this rifle in .223 with a 1:8 or 1:7 twist and a DBM, I will be a Remington owner.
I'm glad you're putting this together. I picked up a savage a couple years ago. It's the model with the A5. I bought it just for the stock and because in my experience Savage's tend to have an edge in accuracy.
I also went with the savage because I like their faster (1:10) twist. I added a badger bolt knob. My savage came with a 24" barrel. I knocked it back to 20". I've added a DBM and modified the receiver to accept AW mags and added a 20MOA base.
My $.02:
put it in an A5
add a good DBM
lose the flutes
if you keep the bolt knob make it a badger
offer choice of 16" or 20" tube
and lastly if possible have the receiver cut to accept AW as well as AICS mags.
if this rifle would have been on my dealer's rack I'd be a Remington owner instead of Savage owner.
If you offer this rifle in .223 with a 1:8 or 1:7 twist and a DBM, I will be a Remington owner.
Re: AAC BLACKOUT rifle - should we do .260 Rem?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Walsh</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: greybeard</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: greybeard</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rsilvers</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I work for AAC. AAC and Remington are Freedom Group companies. We saw a need for a fast-twist pre-threaded rifle so am making it happen. I am showing it here because I know if something is mis-configured, people here will catch it. This will be sold through normal Remington distributors.
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1 Vote here for the home removable bolt knob.
And a vote for the bottom metal for removable mags, like the LE .338 on a short action. Make the arm more "modular" like the AR15, metal chassis system as upgrade? then you get interchangable buttstock, forearm and handgrip. Barrell nut like a savage, or mossberg, home change barrell configuration, can we say aftermarket revnue, I mean support???
The have it your way rifle. And each part of the Rem family of companies have all the parts to start with at rollout, then you buy the action like a AR lower, then "custom build" the rifle the way you want it.
Factory builds for any application with off the shelf parts for lower bid process, Miltary, Law Enforcement, varmit, target and any way the public wants. </div></div>
Further thoughts here, bolt action based on the R25 (or the R15) lower with a bolt action upper, uses the same barrel, diffrent, three lug bolt and barrel extension, headspaced to be interchangable (headspaced like the AR family), carrier. Interchangable parts line from the AR family .
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This would be crazy awesome!! </div></div>
Get this looked at again, by some of the builders?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Walsh</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: greybeard</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: greybeard</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rsilvers</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I work for AAC. AAC and Remington are Freedom Group companies. We saw a need for a fast-twist pre-threaded rifle so am making it happen. I am showing it here because I know if something is mis-configured, people here will catch it. This will be sold through normal Remington distributors.
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1 Vote here for the home removable bolt knob.
And a vote for the bottom metal for removable mags, like the LE .338 on a short action. Make the arm more "modular" like the AR15, metal chassis system as upgrade? then you get interchangable buttstock, forearm and handgrip. Barrell nut like a savage, or mossberg, home change barrell configuration, can we say aftermarket revnue, I mean support???
The have it your way rifle. And each part of the Rem family of companies have all the parts to start with at rollout, then you buy the action like a AR lower, then "custom build" the rifle the way you want it.
Factory builds for any application with off the shelf parts for lower bid process, Miltary, Law Enforcement, varmit, target and any way the public wants. </div></div>
Further thoughts here, bolt action based on the R25 (or the R15) lower with a bolt action upper, uses the same barrel, diffrent, three lug bolt and barrel extension, headspaced to be interchangable (headspaced like the AR family), carrier. Interchangable parts line from the AR family .
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This would be crazy awesome!! </div></div>
Get this looked at again, by some of the builders?
Re: AAC BLACKOUT rifle - should we do .260 Rem?
Things are moving. My best estimate is Aug delivery based on the parts with the longest lead time. Assembly will be done at AAC (we will use 100 ft/lbs barrel torque) using mostly Remington parts but some AAC parts and with custom Rem actions, barrels, and chambers made to my specs.
Things are moving. My best estimate is Aug delivery based on the parts with the longest lead time. Assembly will be done at AAC (we will use 100 ft/lbs barrel torque) using mostly Remington parts but some AAC parts and with custom Rem actions, barrels, and chambers made to my specs.
Re: AAC BLACKOUT rifle - should we do .260 Rem?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rsilvers</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What would most people want for a .260 - 24" or 26" barrel? </div></div>
18.5" Thats what I run on my GAP and its a laser. With a suppressor its even better, nice little rig to run with.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rsilvers</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What would most people want for a .260 - 24" or 26" barrel? </div></div>
18.5" Thats what I run on my GAP and its a laser. With a suppressor its even better, nice little rig to run with.
Re: AAC BLACKOUT rifle - should we do .260 Rem?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rsilvers</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What would most people want for a .260 - 24" or 26" barrel? </div></div>
Go 26". If the buyer wants to, he can have it chopped off.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rsilvers</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What would most people want for a .260 - 24" or 26" barrel? </div></div>
Go 26". If the buyer wants to, he can have it chopped off.
Re: AAC BLACKOUT rifle - should we do .260 Rem?
+1 on 24", anyway we can get a Group Buy for these bad boys
+1 on 24", anyway we can get a Group Buy for these bad boys
Re: AAC BLACKOUT rifle - should we do .260 Rem?
24" is plenty long for the 260s. I have shot a 22" to 1000yds but it did start to open up on groups at around 900yds and did not group as well at 900 and 1000yds as it did when it was 24".
The rifle actually shot better at 24" than when it was a 26".
It was a hammer to 800yds though and handled so much nicer than when it was a 26" rifle. I had it rebarrled back to a 24" then when the time comes will set it back to 22" again.
24" is plenty long for the 260s. I have shot a 22" to 1000yds but it did start to open up on groups at around 900yds and did not group as well at 900 and 1000yds as it did when it was 24".
The rifle actually shot better at 24" than when it was a 26".
It was a hammer to 800yds though and handled so much nicer than when it was a 26" rifle. I had it rebarrled back to a 24" then when the time comes will set it back to 22" again.
Re: AAC BLACKOUT rifle - should we do .260 Rem?
I don't like the concept of people chopping it for two reasons: 1, it will be factory threaded at the muzzle. 2, it will be SCARmor finished and that is a hard surface.
I don't think a group buy is necessary. I will get the price as low as possible once all of the component costs are fixed.
I don't like the concept of people chopping it for two reasons: 1, it will be factory threaded at the muzzle. 2, it will be SCARmor finished and that is a hard surface.
I don't think a group buy is necessary. I will get the price as low as possible once all of the component costs are fixed.
Re: AAC BLACKOUT rifle - should we do .260 Rem?
Here is the first Remington/AAC rifle.
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-sps-tactical-aac-sd.aspx
Here is the first Remington/AAC rifle.
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-sps-tactical-aac-sd.aspx
Re: AAC BLACKOUT rifle - should we do .260 Rem?
Looks good robert. Is AAC working on any 18 tooth muzzle breaks bored for use on 224 cal rifles? I'd love to use my 7.62 SD on my 223ai & 220 swift and still have an effective break when not shooting suppressed.
Looks good robert. Is AAC working on any 18 tooth muzzle breaks bored for use on 224 cal rifles? I'd love to use my 7.62 SD on my 223ai & 220 swift and still have an effective break when not shooting suppressed.
Re: AAC BLACKOUT rifle - should we do .260 Rem?
I believe the price is listed on that page. I think it says $757 but I don't have first-hand knowledge on that.
Goin' Hot - I don't know about if there are 18 tooth brakes. Maybe ask in the AAC section and one of the sales guys will know:
http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=86
I believe the price is listed on that page. I think it says $757 but I don't have first-hand knowledge on that.
Goin' Hot - I don't know about if there are 18 tooth brakes. Maybe ask in the AAC section and one of the sales guys will know:
http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=86
Re: AAC BLACKOUT rifle - should we do .260 Rem?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rsilvers</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here is the first Remington/AAC rifle.
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-sps-tactical-aac-sd.aspx </div></div>
So I should be able to order one of these?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rsilvers</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here is the first Remington/AAC rifle.
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-sps-tactical-aac-sd.aspx </div></div>
So I should be able to order one of these?
Re: AAC BLACKOUT rifle - should we do .260 Rem?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rem700p</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rsilvers</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here is the first Remington/AAC rifle.
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-sps-tactical-aac-sd.aspx </div></div>
So I should be able to order one of these? </div></div>
Yes, from Remington - not AAC. Order number is REM84203.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rem700p</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rsilvers</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here is the first Remington/AAC rifle.
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-sps-tactical-aac-sd.aspx </div></div>
So I should be able to order one of these? </div></div>
Yes, from Remington - not AAC. Order number is REM84203.
Re: AAC BLACKOUT rifle - should we do .260 Rem?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rsilvers</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sept is more likely.</div></div>
Is that for the 260?
Is the 260 going to be a more expensive model or a entry level gun?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rsilvers</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sept is more likely.</div></div>
Is that for the 260?
Is the 260 going to be a more expensive model or a entry level gun?
Re: AAC BLACKOUT rifle - should we do .260 Rem?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rsilvers</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The .260 and a more expensive .308 is in the works. </div></div>
Would be interesting to hear the build
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rsilvers</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The .260 and a more expensive .308 is in the works. </div></div>
Would be interesting to hear the build
Re: AAC BLACKOUT rifle - should we do .260 Rem?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rsilvers</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here is the first Remington/AAC rifle.
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-sps-tactical-aac-sd.aspx </div></div>
Just for clarification, is this model chambered to AAC specs with a shorter free-bore ect. than a standard 700 as stated earlier?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rsilvers</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here is the first Remington/AAC rifle.
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-sps-tactical-aac-sd.aspx </div></div>
Just for clarification, is this model chambered to AAC specs with a shorter free-bore ect. than a standard 700 as stated earlier?
Re: AAC BLACKOUT rifle - should we do .260 Rem?
I am hoping the higher end .308 is built on a Stainless Steel 5R LTR platform. A Badger mag set-up would seal the deal
I am hoping the higher end .308 is built on a Stainless Steel 5R LTR platform. A Badger mag set-up would seal the deal
Re: AAC BLACKOUT rifle - should we do .260 Rem?
Is a 6.5 CM still an option? I'd snag one for sure if that was available.
Is a 6.5 CM still an option? I'd snag one for sure if that was available.
Re: AAC BLACKOUT rifle - should we do .260 Rem?
imagine a "semi" custom ordering process all on-line...
Couple choices for configuration changes:
Stock: Offer an HTG or A-5 (or Manners equivalent)
Barrel: Standard is hvy 24" or opt for a medium Palma 24", Extra $$ to cut/thread.
BM: Badger or equivalent, detachable mag or floor plate options.
Calibers: 308, 260, 6.5cm
I would definitely purchase a rifle with these options available.
Just dreamin'
imagine a "semi" custom ordering process all on-line...
Couple choices for configuration changes:
Stock: Offer an HTG or A-5 (or Manners equivalent)
Barrel: Standard is hvy 24" or opt for a medium Palma 24", Extra $$ to cut/thread.
BM: Badger or equivalent, detachable mag or floor plate options.
Calibers: 308, 260, 6.5cm
I would definitely purchase a rifle with these options available.
Just dreamin'
Re: AAC BLACKOUT rifle - should we do .260 Rem?
I think the barrel being stainless is more important then the action.
I'm excited about this! I may pick up one of the new .308 tacticals.
I think the barrel being stainless is more important then the action.
I'm excited about this! I may pick up one of the new .308 tacticals.
Re: AAC BLACKOUT rifle - should we do .260 Rem?
Barrel for sure, since the rest would be coated, it would be less important.
Barrel for sure, since the rest would be coated, it would be less important.
Re: AAC BLACKOUT rifle - should we do .260 Rem?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rsilvers</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes, the .260 will have a specially processed carbon steel barrel with about 3x the corrosion resistance, and longer life due to additional hardness, of a stainless barrel. </div></div>
Good, now you should put it in the cheapest, most flimsy ass stock you can find to keep the cost down, that way we can choose our own stocks! If you can do this Im down for one and ill be putting it in a RACS when they become available...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rsilvers</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes, the .260 will have a specially processed carbon steel barrel with about 3x the corrosion resistance, and longer life due to additional hardness, of a stainless barrel. </div></div>
Good, now you should put it in the cheapest, most flimsy ass stock you can find to keep the cost down, that way we can choose our own stocks! If you can do this Im down for one and ill be putting it in a RACS when they become available...
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