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Suppressors AAC or TBAC ?

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This will be my 1st suppressor. Also I will not be using this for competitions, just longrange shooting. The AAC is like half the price of Tunder Beast but hear good things about it. For just plinking long range would it serve me just as well as the Thunder Beast?
 
I would get something with a better mounting system than the AAC. Their ratchet mount can be a little wobbly sometimes. Not enough to cause a baffle strike, but enough that it could cause accuracy issues. It worked great in its day, but there are a ton better options out there now. They can also be on the heavy side (depending on the model.)
TBAC is a great option all around really, even more-so on a precision rifle. So, for anything "long range" or "precision", I always recommend TBAC (specifically the Ultra 7). For a blasting gun (semi-auto more rapid fire) I may recommend something a little heavier duty with Stellite or Inconel baffles (Like the Dead Air Sandman or Rugged silencers) but even still the TBAC would work perfectly fine as long as you don't abuse it, even still, as an all titanium can, it's a tough one.

I also like silencers with the "Omega" mounting system (like the YHM turbo-K and many others) which allows you to pick which mount you want, including direct thread). There are a lot of great options out there right now, but just about everything has a trade off on price, performance, weight, modularity, toughness, etc.
 
I own a AAC 300-tm and ultra 9. The 300-tm is direct thread so you wouldn't get hit with the idiot QD design from AAC.

All results I had were same rifle, barrel and load.

Accuracy is for the most part a wash, maybe maybe slightly tighter groups for TB at 100 and distance but it's very small and could just be me.

Sound is advantage to the ultra 9 but not much. To the ear it's small and not enough to sway an unbiased and uneducated customer. I do believe the ultra 9 is quieter but the difference is again small to the ear.

However 2 areas that TB stands out far above AAC, is customer service and craftsmanship. TBAC customer is the best in the business no question. If anything happens to your can you will be taken care of. AAC is a roll of the dice.
As for craftsmanship my ultra 9 is flawless. You can't tell a single weld, cut or anything exists. A thing of beauty. The 300-tm the welds alone look like the first year intern did it.

Go TBAC, they are more expensive but far worth it in the end.
 
I own a AAC 300-tm and ultra 9. The 300-tm is direct thread so you wouldn't get hit with the idiot QD design from AAC.

All results I had were same rifle, barrel and load.

Accuracy is for the most part a wash, maybe maybe slightly tighter groups for TB at 100 and distance but it's very small and could just be me.

Sound is advantage to the ultra 9 but not much. To the ear it's small and not enough to sway an unbiased and uneducated customer. I do believe the ultra 9 is quieter but the difference is again small to the ear.

However 2 areas that TB stands out far above AAC, is customer service and craftsmanship. TBAC customer is the best in the business no question. If anything happens to your can you will be taken care of. AAC is a roll of the dice.
As for craftsmanship my ultra 9 is flawless. You can't tell a single weld, cut or anything exists. A thing of beauty. The 300-tm the welds alone look like the first year intern did it.

Go TBAC, they are more expensive but far worth it in the end.
That says a lot looks like I'll be paying more for the Thunder Beast
 
I thought AAC suppressor was a good product not a Chinese knock off
I wasn’t saying the AAC is a Chinese knockoff although I will say now that AAC is owned by big green they aren’t nearly as good as they used to be. I was just making a sarcastic remark about anyone who would recommend an AAC over a TBAC is the same guy who says a Chinese knockoff is as good as the real thing. Bottom line is if TBAC is in your budget, AAC shouldn’t even be a consideration. You’ll be hard pressed to find a different opinion round here.
 
I wasn’t saying the AAC is a Chinese knockoff although I will say now that AAC is owned by big green they aren’t nearly as good as they used to be. I was just making a sarcastic remark about anyone who would recommend an AAC over a TBAC is the same guy who says a Chinese knockoff is as good as the real thing. Bottom line is if TBAC is in your budget, AAC shouldn’t even be a consideration. You’ll be hard pressed to find a different opinion round here.
Understood
 
There are other fully capable options out there these days as well. I take nothing from TBAC. They are a great company with great people and they offer great support. They are a light, accurate all titanium can.

However, if you were looking for a modern can that's built stout and is quiet with great QD mount systems, there's some other options. I personally like my Griffin Armament cans (Recce 7 and Paladin) about as much as anything. I also like my Rugged cans. I have a bunch of cans that aren't Griffin that use the Griffin mounting system. For similar money to the AAC my choice would probably be the Recce 7, although I like being able to disassemble and clean the Paladin. Every can I have makes the rifle it's on slightly more accurate. Any can that makes a rifle less accurate is unacceptable these days.

A lot of people will tell you that you don't need a user serviceable centerfire can. I would say it depends on how much you shoot, on what platform and what powder you're using. If these folks had a bore scope, I think they'd be surprised how much carbon builds up in centerfire cans. Do a Search for a TBAC can that had around 10k rounds of 6.5CM on it. It was basically an all titanium and carbon bullet tunnel. That takes a lot of rounds to accomplish, but it wasn't like it all happened in the last 1k rounds either. TBAC is also helping that person clean out the carbon, but it will take months. And clearly I'm not saying that's a design issue or that it's a slight to TBAC. That's a lot of 6.5CM rounds to pay for to get that can that carbon bound and the same thing would happen to any can like that without the ability to be disassembled for cleaning.

I'm just saying that there's different choices for different uses.
 
Stay far away from AAC!!!! I own four of 'em, I should know... They DO make a good can, I can't argue that. Maybe their direct thread stuff hits the mark. But their 51T ratchet mount is shit and kills anything good they bring to the table. There is a way to make it happen, buy ten mounts and find one that locks up well and send the others back. Sure it's costly up front but it's the only way to get a tight fit with an AAC can and not resort to filing, cutting, grinding, etc.

TBAC is the way to go, I'd at least get ONE TBAC can to begin with. Not just for precision either, their .30 cans work amazing as .300BLK SBR cans too as well as use on 6.5G (including an SBR) so I'd keep that in mind too. I'd go 9" and 5" Ultras unless you're on a budget, then just get the 7" and call it good. I use 9 and 5 on similar rifles, depending on what I'm doing or what I need out of it. It's good to have both.

IF you want a good abuse can that's not too expensive, STAY AWAY FROM AAC. Go with Sico instead, their Saker can is better in almost every facet, and I just got two last summer for $1300, including ASR mounts and muzzle devices for both (Saker is actually over built, they use Stellite whereas AAC and most others uses inconel --Stellite is what they line M2 barrels with!). F/A rated of course. IIRC my first Saker can when it was newer was around $1200 and that was just one with a Trifecta mount. If you wait until summer, the BOGO sale, you may be able to get one or two free cans too, depending on the purchase and deal through Capitol Armory and Sico. Now TBAC makes a new abuse 5.56 can but it's sorta costly if you can get two Sakers for the same or similar price.

Saker also locks up solid and FWIW, it works fine on a Recce rifle with a Lilja barrel and doesn't degrade accuracy, I still get subMOA results if I do my part.

Another one to look at is Elite Iron. Think of them as the TBAC of 316SS. Brings the cost down and the weight up (although not by too much really). Solid thread over brakes like TBAC uses. Attention to detail, will even TDC the can to the threads or brake, any color Cerakote is standard. No frills, no gimmicks, just solid cans made by a master. Lots of alphabet soup agencies use his cans too FWIW.

If you want the best all around and don't mind saving up for it, KAC is impossible to beat IMO. I'm amazed at the attention to detail and there's a reason it costs about twice as much too. It's the only one I know of that's light, can take abuse AND is suitable for precision. It does several things well, rare in the can world. But again, it ain't cheap, I just thought I'd mention it.
 
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Nope. Not anymore. ATF fixed that glitch. Now everyone waits the same again.
That wasn’t a glitch. That was consenhsious intentional disregard for following first come first serve architecture. People caught on including congress and it got the rip cord pulled. They were trying to decrease average wait times by processing applications fast, creating extreme outliers.
 
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Stay far away from AAC!!!! I own four of 'em, I should know... They DO make a good can, I can't argue that. Maybe their direct thread stuff hits the mark. But their 51T ratchet mount is shit and kills anything good they bring to the table. There is a way to make it happen, buy ten mounts and find one that locks up well and send the others back. Sure it's costly up front but it's the only way to get a tight fit with an AAC can and not resort to filing, cutting, grinding, etc.

TBAC is the way to go, I'd at least get ONE TBAC can to begin with. Not just for precision either, their .30 cans work amazing as .300BLK SBR cans too as well as use on 6.5G (including an SBR) so I'd keep that in mind too. I'd go 9" and 5" Ultras unless you're on a budget, then just get the 7" and call it good. I use 9 and 5 on similar rifles, depending on what I'm doing or what I need out of it. It's good to have both.

IF you want a good abuse can that's not too expensive, STAY AWAY FROM AAC. Go with Sico instead, their Saker can is better in almost every facet, and I just got two last summer for $1300, including ASR mounts and muzzle devices for both (Saker is actually over built, they use Stellite whereas AAC and most others uses inconel --Stellite is what they line M2 barrels with!). F/A rated of course. IIRC my first Saker can when it was newer was around $1200 and that was just one with a Trifecta mount. If you wait until summer, the BOGO sale, you may be able to get one or two free cans too, depending on the purchase and deal through Capitol Armory and Sico. Now TBAC makes a new abuse 5.56 can but it's sorta costly if you can get two Sakers for the same or similar price.

Saker also locks up solid and FWIW, it works fine on a Recce rifle with a Lilja barrel and doesn't degrade accuracy, I still get subMOA results if I do my part.

Another one to look at is Elite Iron. Think of them as the TBAC of 316SS. Brings the cost down and the weight up (although not by too much really). Solid thread over brakes like TBAC uses. Attention to detail, will even TDC the can to the threads or brake, any color Cerakote is standard. No frills, no gimmicks, just solid cans made by a master. Lots of alphabet soup agencies use his cans too FWIW.

If you want the best all around and don't mind saving up for it, KAC is impossible to beat IMO. I'm amazed at the attention to detail and there's a reason it costs about twice as much too. It's the only one I know of that's light, can take abuse AND is suitable for precision. It does several things well, rare in the can world. But again, it ain't cheap, I just thought I'd mention it.
 
This will be my 1st suppressor. Also I will not be using this for competitions, just longrange shooting. The AAC is like half the price of Tunder Beast but hear good things about it. For just plinking long range would it serve me just as well as the Thunder Beast?

I have both, no brainer - TBAC.