AAC "SABRE BLADE BLACK TIP"
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Tried some today out of a PSA 223 wylde upper. The 55gr blade tip would not cycle the gun and shot about a 2.5 inch group. The 75gr blade tip cycled, but would not do better than 2 inches. Tried some of the AAC OTM and both the 69 and 77grain loads shot right at an inch or just under. Sticking with the OTMs for my gun.
I just ordered 10 boxes of the 75 grain black tips. Should work well this deer season here in coastal NC.
I shot a coyote at about 160 yards last night with the 55 grain black tips through my 18" ar. Hit right behind the shoulder, I could see the impact in the thermal. It spun around and ran away, couldn't find it. Was not able to even find blood on the ground this morning.
Was I unlucky enough to have the bullet not expand and pass through like I've read can happen on smk/tmk's sometimes? Or did the bullet blow up on the hide?
I've been getting really good accuracy (about 0.65 moa) but not sure what to expect from the 55 grain bullet as far as terminal performance.
Was I unlucky enough to have the bullet not expand and pass through like I've read can happen on smk/tmk's sometimes? Or did the bullet blow up on the hide?
I've been getting really good accuracy (about 0.65 moa) but not sure what to expect from the 55 grain bullet as far as terminal performance.
Aac 75 black tip did .6” and .7” out of 16” Pof and 18” seekins. I may buy a bunch more , I’m shooting terrible today that 140 group should be one hole. And half hungover. So that Aac stuff definitely is good for the price
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Well I take back anything I said about the 55gr version. Dropped two yotes last night, they stopped in their tracks but I put a second round in each for good measure.
The 55gr seems to need a good shoulder/neck/bone shot on coyotes. I hit one in the rear leg bone and it blew up, the leg was left hanging by two thin pieces of skin.
The 55gr seems to need a good shoulder/neck/bone shot on coyotes. I hit one in the rear leg bone and it blew up, the leg was left hanging by two thin pieces of skin.
What are they saying? I've shot 200 rounds of 55gr with sub moa accuracy
I have shot both the 77gr SMK and 75 HPBT with my Radian Model 1, 600 rounds no issues at all. Was getting sub MOA. In several 5 shot grounds got anywhere from .33 to .78. Pleased with it.Starting a new thread instead of taking over another.
American Ammunition Company 77gr SMK HPBT
Has anyone ran PSA AAC ammo? They have their 77 gr at .75cpr. https://palmettostatearmory.com/aac-5-56-nato-77-grain-sierra-matchking-hpbt-20rd-box.htmlwww.snipershide.com
Has anyone tried these out yet? Results?
Sabre Blacktip 62 gr shot to same poi @ 100 yds as M855 for me. For reference, greentip shoots 2,770ish out of this barrel.
I've been running the 55gr Black tip Saber's and the 77gr OTM's in my LWRC DI with excellent results. .75MOA all day ammo in that rifle.
You need to take into account the source. I've only seen a handful of members on there that are worth a shit.
same for me, AAC 77gr OTM and a 16” LWRC IC is just over 1moa if i’m having a good day.
on a side note:
if the snappyness of the LW bothers you, you can drill extra vent holes in the piston cup to vent more gas early. i did this to both my IC’s.
its tool steel so i had a machinist do it. 3 extra holes offset from the original and on the side that vents sooner. i also did some experimenting with opening up the existing holes as well. it was about a toss up.
i bought 200 rounds of the 75gr black tips.
shot about 60 rounds thru 3 barrels with right at 1moa. no pressure issues either
will buy more later when my stash of 77gr OTM runs out
funny how some forums like to bad mouth the AAC ammo and others dont.
(edit) QC has not been spotty for me but i dont get the random pressure issues. lmt and geiselle barrels come up with pressure problems….um.
shot about 60 rounds thru 3 barrels with right at 1moa. no pressure issues either
will buy more later when my stash of 77gr OTM runs out
funny how some forums like to bad mouth the AAC ammo and others dont.
(edit) QC has not been spotty for me but i dont get the random pressure issues. lmt and geiselle barrels come up with pressure problems….um.
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These bullets are available as a component now and I ordered enough of the 75gr to kill many deer for 100s of years. Here is one next to a H 75gr hpbt.
Hpbt is .991” SBBT is 1.041” according to my Starret caliper
Hpbt is .991” SBBT is 1.041” according to my Starret caliper
Did you find them on the website? I don't see product pages for any of the black tips on the PSA components page. PSA did mention that all of their AAC branded the black tips and OTMs are made "in partnership with Hornady", so if they are available and cheaper I'll definitely pick some up.
HPBTs have a .391 G1 and these are a bit longer yet the website said .361 G1 (if I’m remembering correctly) last week. Now it’s .334 G1.
The shape doesn't really appear to be as BC optimized as say the TMK or HPBT, so I could buy it having a lower G1 than those. Not sure about the .361 vs .334, maybe it has something to do with where the BC is reported from, like some of the ELD vs Amax differences.
Don't know that there is a way to be totally sure, but Midsouth seems to have 55gr and 75gr .224, along with 110gr .308, which were some of the first black tip loads that AAC came out with that I recall. It seems more likely that AAC worked with Hornady to come to with a cheaper SD/hunting focused bullet line for their loaded ammo, and that it is also being sold as bulk components at Midsouth than there being two new mystery lines of OEM tipped bullets out there that look identical.
I have the part number for black tipped 6.5. 140 SST bullets that were used at an ammo company. Even have photo proof but I was told I can’t post it.
I would say these are made by Hornady for AAC and they came out as a component shortly before AAC had their loaded ammo come back in stock. Everything points to…
I would say these are made by Hornady for AAC and they came out as a component shortly before AAC had their loaded ammo come back in stock. Everything points to…
After a few thousand rounds of AAC77 and 75’s I am happy with accuracy but it’s just too dirty to use as my main ammo so just going to spend more until they clean up there powder
I didn’t find it any dirtier than American Eagle 55gr fmj through my ARs suppressed. My AAC 77s are clean as a whistle through one of my bolt guns. I’ll break out the other 2 next and see how they do.
Someone needs to do side by side gel testing: SST vs AAC black tip, same bullet weights and velocities.
Think those 55 gr Black Tip Sabers will reliably fragment on tissue at 200 meters out of a 16” barrel?
