Above the Barrel Mounted Bipods

[Nathantc]

So what's the difference between the two (12 and 6) bipods? My understanding was the difference was in the mount (cant screw) and not the bipod. Thoughts?

Edit: you guys answered my question before I even posted it. LOL.

the "tit" on the spigot to clock the bipod on SOME spigots can be reversed. The actual body, or bridge, of the bipod has two different designs. The 12 position has a set screw and the 6 position has a lever on the lower side to set tension. Being as i do not like to lock the cant on a bipod the 12 position mounted in the 6 position on my rifle is a non issue, but you cannot access the tension screw without removing the bipod from the spigot.

this is why i wanted a 12 position, so i could use it either or, where as the 6 position cannot.

 

[whatsupdoc]

the 6 and the 12 o'clock "bridge" are actually different in the way the add tension to the spigot.

Correct the 12 oclock setup has a allen bolt on top where the 6 oclock has a lever on the bottom.
They also come with either a 5 position bridge and a 3 position bridge.

 

[Mike_in_FL]

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I received this when I asked about the "legs only" description that is now in the link even though the description is for an entire bipod and the price is the same as the 6:00 model. If you really want one and you're concerned about the link change, call the US office at the number above.

 

[Mike_in_FL]

the 6 and the 12 o'clock "bridge" are actually different in the way the add tension to the spigot.

Thanks for clarifying. I haven't tried loosening mine to rotate to six. It works very well on the top pic rail on my .308 semi.

 

[Mike_in_FL]

I will primarily use this in the 12 position, but since I also have a rail point at the 6 position, I like the option of being able to switch depending on the occasion.

A little more information about my situation: I ordered the Roedale version of this bipod on Nov 7 and they just told me they are still awaiting a restock of the bipods. Their version has more leg angle points (also 45° and 135°) which is intriguing, but the wait for an off the shelf item is killing me. After reading how quickly two of you received your order from SSD, I'm considering cancelling my Roedale order and buying from SSD. Thoughts?

I'm not sure how holiday traffic will affect your shipping. I would call the US number I posted and see if they have one here. I just know if you order one from SSD you'll actually get it.

 

[Cincylance]

You guys are awesome. I'll let you know how this plays out.

 

[ChrisF308]

I have a Phoenix bipod , at the time they made it in 2 models , one for top mounting & a shorter/different one for bottom mounting in the vein of normal Parker Hale type bipods , I have the bigger top version and its very good , run it on a AI AX as well as a RPR , very solid and well built .

 

[Cincylance]

I have a Phoenix bipod , at the time they made it in 2 models , one for top mounting & a shorter/different one for bottom mounting in the vein of normal Parker Hale type bipods , I have the bigger top version and its very good , run it on a AI AX as well as a RPR , very solid and well built .

My understanding is that you have a Fortmeier bipod being sold as a Phoenix. They (Phoenix) bought Fortmeier bipods and sold them as Phoenix bipods. I believe Phoenix is no longer around. Roedale does the same thing, they call it a “Roedale RH” bipod.

 

[Cincylance]

FYI – Called and spoke with Peter in California representing Solid Solutions Designs. Good guy and very helpful to have someone in the US to speak to. This morning I received a confirmation from Roedale cancelling my order, so went ahead and placed an order with Solid Solutions Designs for the Fortmeier H210 bipod and Picatinny mount.

 

[Bossche]

FYI – Called and spoke with Peter in California representing Solid Solutions Designs. Good guy and very helpful to have someone in the US to speak to. This morning I received a confirmation from Roedale cancelling my order, so went ahead and placed an order with Solid Solutions Designs for the Fortmeier H210 bipod and Picatinny mount.

Was the sales page just for the legs then and the picatinny mount is sold separately or did it include the set like the 6 o'clock sales page? I'll see if I can call Peter today but it seems Mike received the complete bipod(?) It'd be unfortunate to have to place two orders.

 

[Cincylance]

Pieter said the listing for “Bipod - legs only” does include the bridge. We’ll see.
I’m a little disappointed because only after I placed my order did I receive a second email saying my order status had changed to “Awaiting parts”, but their site says the bipod is in stock. More waiting.

 

[Bossche]

I just spoke with Peter. The listings for both the 6 o'clock and 12 o'clock are for the bipod legs plus bridge, the bridge is what connects to the picatinny mount with the spigot which is sold separately. I.e. to have a complete bipod you will need to order the H210 in 6:00 or 12:00 mounting setup plus a picatinny adapter.

 

[Cincylance]

I just spoke with Peter. The listings for both the 6 o'clock and 12 o'clock are for the bipod legs plus bridge, the bridge is what connects to the picatinny mount with the spigot which is sold separately. I.e. to have a complete bipod you will need to order the H210 in 6:00 or 12:00 mounting setup plus a picatinny adapter.

Yessir, that’s exactly what i ordered, thank you! I requested the 5-position bridge in my initial order, but after I got a response that my order was “awaiting parts” I asked Peter to send the 3-position bridge if that’s all they had in stock. He was going to check and get back with me.

 

[Bossche]

Yessir, that’s exactly what i ordered, thank you! I requested the 5-position bridge in my initial order, but after I got a response that my order was “awaiting parts” I asked Peter to send the 3-position bridge if that’s all they had in stock. He was going to check and get back with me.

Good to hear! It was really confusing on page one since it sounded like you could get the entire thing for $250, the price should be $319.92 instead.

 

[Pieter Buitendijk]

Good afternoon gentlemen,

It's Pieter from Solid Solution Designs

A big thank you to Michael L. for pointing out to me there was some confusion about the Fortmeier bipods. I changed the SSD website in the hope to clarify the situation a little more (see screenshot). I added this note: this bipod requires the fortmeier picatinny adapter to attach it to your rifle’s picatinny mount. This is a separate product: scroll down to “You may also like” to view the picatinny adapter. In other words: the Fortmeier bipod plus the fortmeier adapter are required to attach it your rifle.

Perhaps interesting for you guys to know: the F-bipod was initially available in various types, I believe there was a weaver-adapter and a versapod type. Furthermore, there was a different/specific model for either 6 or 12 o'clock mounting. So lots of options, which is good.. but potentially confusing... Idea from F was to have the same legs/feet, but with different options for various mounting options.

Luckily, they recently focussed more on the picatinny versions (which we/SSD sells) and the 6-12 o'clock version is now one and the same bipod. The way the picatinny adapter is mounted (up or downward facing) is what turnes the bipod into a 6 or 12 o'clock version. So a lot simpler..

Please feel free to email me or call/text on my cell (Pacific timezone) if some extra info would help.

K/R

Pieter
[email protected]
760 361 9292

 

[maven1129]

A nice couple of review for those looking into the UTG (YouTube review 1, YouTube review 2)

Looks like the group has starting going deep on the Fortmeier Bipod H210. Any final comments back on a comparison between that and the UTG? I am leaning heavily toward the UTG.

Why? I have given a pretty comprehensive review of each on YouTube, and here's what I take from all of it:

1. UTG has male spigot.
   1. I like the spigot is on the bipod itself, not the mount. Seems to give more flexibility on mounting options. We could mount female spigot receivers on different rail types around your guard like ARCA (not finding any options yet), M-LOK, Picatinny without the male spigot stuck to your gun.
   2. However, I can't tell if UTG uses Versed or another universally available spigot.
      1. What spigot does the UTG use? Is it any type of universally available, like versa-pod?
      2. Fortmeier uses readily available versa-pod style spigot.
2. UTG is less expensive - about half from what I can tell:
   1. UTG in stock available in the USA with free 2-day shipping (OpticsPlanet - $153.99 on 1/5/22)
      1. Includes an on-gun Picatinny adapter
      2. works in both 12 and 6 position because the spigot release button comes out the back (vs. a lateral handle on the Fortmeier)
   2. 3 Position Fortmeier is €219.95 ($249.38 per exchange on 1/5/22) at Huntac + shipping
      1. Have to add on-gun spigot with an extra-cost adapter ranging from €84.95 to €199.95+
      2. Have to have a second mount entirely to do 6 vs 12 position because the spigot release on the Fortmeier requires a screw handle coming out laterally in the 6 position (vs. a push button from the back on the UTG). I assume we could simply use the same 12 position base and mount it under the gun, however.
3. UTG has Self-retracting legs.
4. UTG has spigot rotation. tension knob on the left side. I don't see how one adjusts the spigot tension on the Fortmeier in 12 position with ease.
5. Both has direct-pull out legs without a release.
6. Fortmeier does not pan from what I can tell.
7. UTG is heavier at 24.1 oz vs. Fortmeier 210 is 19.4 oz. - but perhaps either system may be leg-swappable to Atlas it you wanted to?

All in all, in my opinion (other than weight), everything is designed with more thought and universality with the UTG than on the Fortmeier.

What do you guys think of my take on things, and what are your own thoughts when comparing just these two options, head to head?

What would you say are pros/cons for either, when compared directly?

Did I get anything wrong, or am I missing anything I should be thinking about?

Now I'm off to check out the GRS design... looks to have a lot of what I consider to be "limitations" of the Fortmeier above.

 

[Cincylance]

FYI – I got an email from SSD that my Fortmeier bipod and mount has shipped. I will make another post when it is received.

 

[Cincylance]

UPDATE: the Fortmeier bipod and Picatinny mount arrived today from SSD. The build quality looks exceptional and the mount feels solid as hell. Will post pics once I get the bipod on the rifle.

 

[Baron23]

I've got a couple of the Elite Iron bipods and they are amazing but a bit limiting in their attachment as well.

If by this you mean pic rail attachment only, they are now offering mounts for ARCA....but its not shown on their website. Its just their mount with ARMS 17 hole pattern that you have to add an ARCA clamp to.... RRS if you want both PIC and ARCA or Area 419 ARCA...or others.

Need to call and talk to them if that is the way you want to go.

Cheers

 

[Long Range 338]

If by this you mean pic rail attachment only, they are now offering mounts for ARCA....but its not shown on their website. Its just their mount with ARMS 17 hole pattern that you have to add an ARCA clamp to.... RRS if you want both PIC and ARCA or Area 419 ARCA...or others.

Need to call and talk to them if that is the way you want to go.

Cheers

I'll have to check it out again. I've had mine for about 3 years now and they had a proprietary attachment for putting into the stock. I've got the pic rail attachment but it requires an Allen wrench, works well but not what I would consider quick attach.

 

[Cincylance]

Here are pics of the Fortmeier bipod on a Rise Armament 1121XR, able to mount both above and below the barrel. Folds up very compact against the forend. I'm very happy with it so far.

 

[Pieter Buitendijk]

Here are pics of the Fortmeier bipod on a Rise Armament 1121XR, able to mount both above and below the barrel. Folds up very compact against the forend. I'm very happy with it so far.


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Looks beautiful!

Happy all went well

K/R Pieter SSD

 

[Thebiglebowski]

Any update on whether Fortmeier are being sold in the US yet? Very interesting.

 

[ManUtdManiac]

No. Have to order through their UK vendor Phoenix Tactical or some such. Shame. Sweet looking set up.

 

[NoahbodyImportant]

I maybe considering selling my Fortmeier Bipod with ski feet and talon feet.

 

[Baron23]

As I mentioned above, I do have an EI with ARCA from them.....and after using it for a good bit I'm really not in love with it.

IMO, there is far too much flex in the legs and the legs are a sort of a PIA to adjust. I'm finding that I still prefer my CAL mounted on the bottom to an ARCA.

Hey, probably just me as a lousy shooter as others seem to love them....but, not me so far.

Cheers

 

[232593]

Here are pics of the Fortmeier bipod on a Rise Armament 1121XR, able to mount both above and below the barrel. Folds up very compact against the forend. I'm very happy with it so far.


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Is it fairly stable? How much play in the legs?

 

[232593]

I've been considering one of these. They pan and tilt. They came out a few weeks ago and are sold out everywhere.

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It mounts on the picatinny above the barrel.
I missed the introductory price of $49. Now it's more like $140.

Did you end up getting one? If so how did you like it?

 

[Mike Casselton]

No I never bothered. Once they became available again, the price wasn't worth it to me.
I would have also had to modify my stocks and chassis to fit the bipod

 

[232593]

No I never bothered. Once they became available again, the price wasn't worth it to me.
I would have also had to modify my stocks and chassis to fit the bipod

Thank you.

Considering one for the new AR10 in 22CM I just bought. I was going to get an elite iron but my hand guard is too wide. The ACUTAC I have in it is ok but I’m partial to the top mounted ones.

 

[BurtG]

Thank you.

Considering one for the new AR10 in 22CM I just bought. I was going to get an elite iron but my hand guard is too wide. The ACUTAC I have in it is ok but I’m partial to the top mounted ones.

I feel like a big top mounted bipod is for long range precision where you have a lot of time whereas a ar10 is more for quick accurate shots where a tbac or atlas would be more appropriate And less bulk

I’m glad to hear about all these semi auto 22cm. Makes me feel like I won’t burn out my AI barrel when I come up on a pack of guilty animals

 

[acudaowner]

you mean you can't already mount any bi pod on top of the chassis with enough bubble gum and duck tape ? that just don't sound very American

 

[232593]

I feel like a big top mounted bipod is for long range precision where you have a lot of time whereas a ar10 is more for quick accurate shots where a tbac or atlas would be more appropriate And less bulk

I’m glad to hear about all these semi auto 22cm. Makes me feel like I won’t burn out my AI barrel when I come up on a pack of guilty animals

Good point, this new 22CM is lighter than all the AR10s I have. One of the things, so far, that I really like about it.

I’m not sure how long the barrel will last with the 400MODBB or how good it shoots with different bullets. I’m about to find out in about 40 minutes.

 

[232593]

@BurtG have tried the Tier 1 carbon fiber bipod?

 

[BurtG]

I have not.