Just out of curiosity how many innocent civilians have been killed by CW holders and how many by law enforcemen? Let’s do the math…….
Boy, you are some kind of anti-cop, ehhh guy? Deep breath, count to 10, then repeat a few times...
Seems many others could use that as well, no idea why people expect that everyone is going to be punching bullseyes but it doesn't take but a few seconds on Youtube to watch badge cams, military cams, etc... and see that training doesn't mean you'll be punching x's when the moment comes in real life.
And a bad guy going away does not mean there is not still a deadly threat, the girl that was just killed in Burger King, guy walked out or was walking out, turned around, came back and executed her, if she had drawn and shot him in the back seems like a lot of you would've hung her, yet it would've saved her life. You can go find videos of successful robberies, bad guys run away, all of a sudden they start firing back, without provocation. I've even seen videos where they run away, come back to just shoot, then leave..
If there was no threat here, this guy is in criminal trouble, negligent homicide sounds right, civilly he's done too.
If there was a deadly threat still present and active, to me, there should be no criminal action, he loses civilly. Now, legally, this will depend upon the state. But personally, I see it like noted.
Why, because as a society we are better off with the good guys on the street, and as an adult you know that shit happens and perfect isn't human, what was lost here, the tragedy befallen that family is incomprehensible.
Nonetheless, protecting one's self from a deadly threat is something for which we should all be fine "paying the ultimate price."
Shit went south and the wrong person died, sometimes that is life, no amount of laws nor training will wipe that from humanity, we aren't geared for it, humans are not perfect. Just like trying to law our way into Utopia, what happens, authoritarianism and oppression, your utopia has us in reality in hell because humans can't Utopia. Jealousy, envy, bitterness, resentment, on and on, humans can't Utopia, not won't, can't.
It can't happen, humans can't be perfect, not won't, can't, and mistakes will always be in the cards.
Loading groceries into your truck you hear screams, vehicle next to you shaking, "let's check it out, maybe something good," you see a guy beating the piss out of a woman, she's taking it bad, horrible shit.
You decide to stop the threat of death or great bodily harm and shoot the guy.
Turns out what you actually shot was the good guy, see she was pissed because he left her and got the kids, her drug addiction got the best of her. She stalked him, came up behind him and stabbed him, he wrestled her into the car where he was stopping the threat.
You didn't see the initial part to know that it was actually her that started the altercation and her that was an active deadly threat and had stabbed him and still had the knife, obscured by part of the seat of the vehicle.
You did what a reasonable person would do, do we want you locked up forever because you happened to shoot the innocent, No? You're a valuable member of society that sought to protect the innocent, shit went wrong, yes, but we can't know all and to be inactive because you don't know all would render you completely inactive and essentially dead.
So, criminally we let you go, civilly you'll still pay, but criminally you go free, and hopefully, the next time, things are as they seem, but also, hopefully, he still acts, because if that was your daughter or wife and she was being attacked, he just saved her life.
We want that in society even if sometimes shit doesn't go our way.
And by the way, several states have laws that recognize that, and do as such, a good guy that makes a mistake is still a good guy and we want them on our side and in our society.
Gross negligence, spray and pray etc... aside
I get wanting people to be accurate, I have built a range in my backyard so I may train more, but again, you won't train, legislate, force, coerce, whatever, perfect into humanity. People will miss regardless, and again, inaction costs lives too, and could cost many more lives.
I hate to tell you, sometimes the wrong person dies, there's no use in killing another when it was a reasonable action given the circumstances.
Also not saying that was the case here, don't know enough yet.
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