Accuracy International Pics

[Al Rick]

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Chillin,

Nice collection of WOW!

What do these rifles wt fully dressed out - can and all?

Thanks

 

[Chillin]

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AI Rick,

Not sure on the finished weights. I will weigh them and let you know. The Surgeon in the back weighs just under 15lbs without the scope and the can.

Thanks for the comments. I'm super happy with the AICS system.

Mike

 

[Al Rick]

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That's my thresh-hold wt 15lbs or less.

What's the bbl length on the surgeon 26" ?

 

[bm11]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Zak Smith</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The AI bipod is very good and has features and advantages the Harris does not. However, people used to a Harris usually think the AI is too "floppy" and don't give it a chance.

-z </div></div>I tried the AI bipod today (coming from a Harris,) and while I could see where some guys found it "floppy," I didn't find that it effected my shooting at all, and it was MUCH more easy to load and get set up.

I'm going to be buying one for my AIAW.

 

[deadly0311]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Al Rick</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That's my thresh-hold wt 15lbs or less.

What's the bbl length on the surgeon 26" ? </div></div>

The Surgeon 26" probably has a 26 inch barrel

 

[Chillin]

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AI Rick,

The Surgeon is 24" its a 6.5 x 47

The front one is a 5R .308 cut to 20"

The middle one is a 5R .300WM 26"

All running AAC QD Brake so I can run my AAC762SD on them.

 

[Chillin]

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AI Rick,

The Surgeon weighs in at 18lbs complete with empty mag in it.

The .308 weighs 16lbs without the mag in it.

Didn't weigh the .300WM

 

[Al Rick]

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Thanks,

I'm going to have to re-weight my rig. I'm thinking that the difference from the HS stock to the AI should be +/- 2.5lbs added wt.

 

[eravelo]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chillin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">AI Rick,

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All running AAC QD Brake so I can run my AAC762SD on them.

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How do you like the AAC762sd in POI sense? Repeatable?.
I was thinking of putting that can or a screw-on Cyclone instead.

regards,

Jorgen

 

[Chillin]

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Jorgen,

It has been very predictable on POI shift. I am very happy with it so far. Also very happy with the QD Brake when shooting without the can. Seems to be a great system.

 

[Lazlo]

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This may have been mentioned already, but I just noticed the AIAX on AI's main page is sporting a Harris.

In regards to the above post, I also have a SF762SS and have been pleased with the results. It's just a bitch to remove once it heats up.

 

[MGC]

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Does AI sell the MIRS that fits into the AI bipod spigot hole?
It is shown on one of your posted pictures

 

[81sfo]

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[BasraBoy]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Zak Smith</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is the Parker-Hale style really that bad / fragile ?</div></div>
I couldn't say why anyone else prefers a particular bipod, but I prefer the AI due to features and I don't see how anyone could complain about its "fragility" (Ha!) compared to a Harris.

I prefer the AI bipod because it has more yaw/play, never hops, is more easily deployable and stowable with one hand, and is more easily adjustable when in position, and has no external springs.

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I'm with you on this, Zak. For me the Harris plain sucks - too rigid and feels flimsy!

Any one describing the PH/AI as fragile can never have seen one or played with one.

 

[johnlee]

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Those of you who use the Parker-Hale bipod know it flops around:

The Parker-Hale adjusts for cant, but there's no way to adjust tension on the cant mechanism. So the weapon is always flopping to one side or another. It's bad enough that photos like this are hard to take:

The weapon always wants to fall over. Even in that pic above, you can see the weapon is leaning to the port side. If my slip weren't there to block the fall, the weapon would have fallen over.

I have tried coke can shims, rubber bands, and O-rings, all to no avail. They helped a little but they still sucked.

I pulled the bipod block from the forend:

When I saw the slit at the rear of the block, it occurred to me that the the slit could go all the way through the block and screws used to clamp the block around the bipod spigot. So I visited Randall at AR15 Barrels with some sketches in hand and he milled the slit all the way through the block:

Randall also milled the holes for the screws:

My idea was to use M3 screws, but Randall thought the screws were too small and could pull through the aluminum threads. I was thinking of M3 screws because of the small heads. There's only so much room on the bipod block for the screw heads:

But Randall used larger screws (I can't recall the size right now) and turned down the heads on his lathe:

This was a very nice solution. I now have much larger screws with coarse threads but the heads are still small enough that they won't protrude from the outer dimensions of the bipod block.

Here's the block with the screws installed:

Note how the forward screw head is recessed sufficiently to clear the front sling swivel.

The machining marks would not show with the bipod block installed, but I touched up the block with a black Sharpie anyway.

 

[johnlee]

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Before:

During:

After:

I purposely didn't want any screw heads to show on my rifle, so I didn't have Randall touch anything on the chassis:

With the bipod block installed in the forend, the work is invisible:

Some will want the screw heads to be accessible through the forend because they will want to tweak with the bipod tension while shooting. I'm more of a set-it-and-forget-it kind of guy, so I just adjusted the screws to have a good amount of tension, blue Loctited them in place, lubricated the bipod spigot, and then installed the block into the forend.

The only sign that the bipod block has been modified is a small view of the slit at the front of the block:

I can live with that. The slit is actually a nice lubrication hole.

If you a use a Parker-Hale on your AW, this pic should look weirdo to you:

Normally that bipod would be pulled down by gravity, but it's actually rotated toward the sky. I rotated it that way and the tension kept it there against gravity.

My rifle feels like a totally different gun now because I had grown accustomed to the floppy bipod. I'm digging the tension on it now. Just picking up the gun feels different because there's no slop in the bipod causing it to jiggle back and forth. And it feels great behind the gun.

 

[Tucsondave]

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You can buy a tension lock for the AI Bipod from AI

 

[bm11]

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What do you do when you want to take your bipod off?

 

[Zak Smith]

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Yeah I totally hate that it's hard to mock up photographs with the stock AI bipod. What were they thinking? Don't the weapon designers realize that stability for photo-taking is one of the <span style="font-style: italic">most important</span> features for the US Market?

 

[medic103]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Zak Smith</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yeah I totally hate that it's hard to mock up photographs with the stock AI bipod. What were they thinking? Don't the weapon designers realize that stability for photo-taking is one of the <span style="font-style: italic">most important</span> features for the US Market? </div></div>

Awesome.

 

[johnlee]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tucsondave</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You can buy a tension lock for the AI Bipod from AI </div></div>

Originally I had planned to go with that knob. I liked the idea of that knob, but ended up going with the clamped bipod block instead because the weapon would look unaltered and simpler. I don't have adjustable tension on the fly that the knob would offer, but all I was looking for was some tension on the bipod so that the weapon wouldn't flop around so much. I just tightened the bipod block to achieve a good amount of tension and just left it that.

 

[johnlee]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bm11</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What do you do when you want to take your bipod off? </div></div>

The bipod still comes off. The bipod block clamps the bipod spigot from the sides, the locking latch design of the bipod block remains unaltered. However, removing the bipod is much more difficult than before. I have to depress the locking latch and twist the bipod back and forth to remove it because the block is now clamping the spigot. Before, the bipod just fell out if you depressed the locking latch.

 

[AWP]

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Here is my AI collection.

 

[bm11]

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^^^An awesome collection for sure!

 

[DesertMonkey]

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TAG....

 

[Cujo]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: medic103</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Zak Smith</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yeah I totally hate that it's hard to mock up photographs with the stock AI bipod. What were they thinking? Don't the weapon designers realize that stability for photo-taking is one of the <span style="font-style: italic">most important</span> features for the US Market? </div></div>

Awesome. </div></div>

That Johnlee post. . .

Why on earth would somebody do something like that? This has to be a joke. He used a black Sharpie to cover the machining marks?

Zak, I guess you have to have a bipod that supports the rifle to take pics nowadays. The original design is proven and works well!

Heck, he's probably a new guy to bolt-action and an "expert" on what he has read on the internet! Probably a recent graduate from AR sites. . .

Damn.

 

[sickeness]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Cujo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: medic103</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Zak Smith</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yeah I totally hate that it's hard to mock up photographs with the stock AI bipod. What were they thinking? Don't the weapon designers realize that stability for photo-taking is one of the <span style="font-style: italic">most important</span> features for the US Market? </div></div>

Awesome. </div></div>

That Johnlee post. . .

Why on earth would somebody do something like that? This has to be a joke. He used a black Sharpie to cover the machining marks?

Zak, I guess you have to have a bipod that supports the rifle to take pics nowadays. The original design is proven and works well!

Heck, he's probably a new guy to bolt-action and an "expert" on what he has read on the internet! Probably a recent graduate from AR sites. . .

Damn.
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I think there is a misunderstanding.
John had his bipod block modified to eliminate the slop/cant in the bipod. (which btw is why many people justify getting an Atlas Bipod) He was using the example of taking pics as a way to show how floppy the bipod on the gun was before the change.

I'm glad to see you made sure not to miss the opportunity to rip on someone and make personal attacks just because Zak Smith said something. Shows what kind of guy you are.

 

[jp67]

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Thanks Johnlee for your post. Very interresting.It gives me some ideas but would prefer a tension lock on the side.

 

[Zak Smith]

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After shooting a variety of non-swivel, adjustable friction swivel bipods, and the AI bipod, I am convinced the floppy nature of the AI bipod is a feature.

 

[bm11]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Zak Smith</div><div class="ubbcode-body">After shooting a variety of non-swivel, adjustable friction swivel bipods, and the AI bipod, I am convinced the floppy nature of the AI bipod is a feature.

</div></div>I have found that it is a skill that needs to be adapted, but once you learn to level the rifle and not require the rifle to do it, the bipod is very nice to use.

I have an Atlas as well, and enjoy and appreciate it's design as well.

 

[Zak Smith]

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The rifle cannot level itself unless its center of mass is below the pivot axis (which would really necessitate a pendulum and the ground to not be right there). The shooter must level the rifle whether there is free rotation or some sort of friction mechanism.

A friction mechanism provides resistance to leveling (or any rotation). Any small change in the rifle position, ie due to movement, or irregular ground surface typical of shooting in the field, will typically require some adjustment. A friction mechanism causes stiction (by definition) that must be overcome by the shooter to readjust level. Stiction both inhibits small corrections, and once the static friction coefficient is overcome, the input force required to overcome it often means correction overshoot.

Anyway, that's my experience

 

[westford86]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jjmcrowell</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

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How much did that little guy weigh when it had the 17.5" barrel. Also what does the AICS 2.0 alone weight?

 

[Victor Co Heather]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Cujo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: medic103</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Zak Smith</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yeah I totally hate that it's hard to mock up photographs with the stock AI bipod. What were they thinking? Don't the weapon designers realize that stability for photo-taking is one of the <span style="font-style: italic">most important</span> features for the US Market? </div></div>

Awesome. </div></div>

That Johnlee post. . .

Why on earth would somebody do something like that? This has to be a joke. He used a black Sharpie to cover the machining marks?

Zak, I guess you have to have a bipod that supports the rifle to take pics nowadays. The original design is proven and works well!

Heck, he's probably a new guy to bolt-action and an "expert" on what he has read on the internet! Probably a recent graduate from AR sites. . .

Damn.
</div></div>

I know John and he's a good shooter. Chill with your troll talk.

 

[Judge]

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Zak Smith,

Which bipod do you prefer for your AI rifle and why?

 

[Victor Co Heather]

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[Zak Smith]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Judge</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Zak Smith,

Which bipod do you prefer for your AI rifle and why? </div></div>
I've already written the answer to that question in this thread.

 

[Judge]

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Zak Smith....just saw it, thanks. The only negatives I have read besides the AI flopping around is when it has scratched barrels when folded forward.

 

[LoneWolfUSMC]

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I guess I can add to this:

Currently this is my favorite rifle to shoot. I just love how it feels. Not so much how it carries, but I am getting used to that. Just some more Wheaties and some pullups should cure that problem.

 

[rickp]

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Here's my baby.
308 with a S&B PMII 4x16x42 and a SAS Suppressor.

 

[edwin907]

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Tried the black skins on the "night fighter" AICS.

 

[Tinbendur]

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This is the very setup I want when I get the dough.






<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I guess I can add to this:

Currently this is my favorite rifle to shoot. I just love how it feels. Not so much how it carries, but I am getting used to that. Just some more Wheaties and some pullups should cure that problem.

</div></div>

 

[SWRichmond]

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Is that the AICS Biathlon sling? How do you like it?


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: edwin907</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tried the black skins on the "night fighter" AICS.

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[Tburkes]

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That is a TAB GEAR Elite Series Biathlon sling. You can see more about it here.

http://www.riflesonly.com/store/TAB/biathlon.html

 

[SWRichmond]

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TY. I am extremely interested and my wife is looking for Xmas present ideas for me.

How useful / easy to use is the sling for use as firing support (e.g. sitting)?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tburkes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That is a TAB GEAR Elite Series Biathlon sling. You can see more about it here.

http://www.riflesonly.com/store/TAB/biathlon.html </div></div>

 

[Tburkes]

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The Regular Biathlon Sling, RBS, and the Elite Biathlon Sling, EBS, allow you to sling up the same way as our regular rifle slings, and just about as quickly too.

An added benefit it that the padded shoulder straps make the sling even more comfortable on the support hand since the padding wraps across the hand during positional shooting.

 

[edwin907]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SWRichmond</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is that the AICS Biathlon sling? How do you like it?
</div></div>

It is, as mentioned above, the TAB Elite Biathlon sling.
To me, it's pretty much the last word in slings, and does everything very well.

But the comfort & control carrying a heavy rifle!
I actually cheated the other day, and used it with my 16" Recon AR, which is also setup for HK hooks. Knew we would be walking several hundred yards to get to our firing position, and more than that for setting up targets, and carrying a range bag with spotter, tripod, binocs, mags/ammo, suppressor, targets/stapler, h2o & lunch!
Needless to say, I'm contemplating another, for my SPRs.
I currently use a M-60 style padded sling (Bushmaster) for my Mod0, but this would be so much better.

 

[so53]

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need some help on a aw it has 07 aw 11821 on the reciver on the barrel it has np 762x51 lp/07 on the other side it has this #28732 what dose it all mean

 

[MinorDamage]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pug gun</div><div class="ubbcode-body">need some help on a aw it has 07 <span style="color: #FF0000">Year of Manufacture-2007</span> aw <span style="color: #FF0000">Type - Arctic Warfare</span> 11821 <span style="color: #FF0000">Serial Number</span> on the reciver on the barrel it has np 762x51 <span style="color: #FF0000">Caliber - 7.62x51</span> lp/07 <span style="color: #FF0000">Barrel date</span> on the other side it has this #28732 what dose it all mean </div></div>

Josh

 

[so53]

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should the barrel have the same serial # as the reciever did not know about this #28732 on barrel thanks for info

 

[so53]

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should the barrel have the same serial # as the reciever did not know about this #28732 on barrel thanks for info