Make what you want of it. We all have our opinions.This "we" is five squeaky wheels and they are appeasing you so that you would go away.
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Make what you want of it. We all have our opinions.This "we" is five squeaky wheels and they are appeasing you so that you would go away.
Since theyre not really doing anything different youre basing your stance on it magically feeling better?Nobody here has even seen one. Everyone is who is automatically saying "xyz is better" is ASSuming they know why. NOBODY can speak to the ergonomics, bolt lift, ease of adjustments, etc., etc., etc,. because nobody here has had one in their hands.
It's so fucking juvenile it's pathetic.
They will be available through us directly as well as our extensive dealer network.Who will carry these in addition to Aero?
Since theyre not really doing anything different youre basing your stance on it magically feeling better?
Us either, we're just calling it what it is. Another 700 clone in a sea of 700 clones and another chassis in a sea of chassis. Its cool that its from Aero, i have Aero products. but not blowing anyones socks of with that. Thats all.Unlike all of you I'm not assuming it will be better or worse. I want to wait to see/hold/work one in my hands.
Capisci?
Maybe part of the idea is to get Aero/AR platform fans into the bolt gun arena. Just a guess, seeing how Aero has a pretty large following.Us either, we're just calling it what it is. Another 700 clone in a sea of 700 clones and another chassis in a sea of chassis. Its cool that its from Aero but not blowing anyones socks of with that. Thats all.
I hope it works out, wish them the best of success.Maybe part of the idea is to get Aero/AR platform fans into the bolt gun arena. Just a guess, seeing how Aero has a pretty large following.
No, he's basing his outlook on the idea that people like you (or most people in general) personally havent even seen the product, or touched it, yet already have formed some kind of definitive opinion, and are posting it here, trying to dissuade others.Since theyre not really doing anything different youre basing your stance on it magically feeling better?
Keep hope alive.
Unleas they come with something nobody else has. Price point will be the determining factor.
Just want to pile on fourth or fifth to this, matching Origin guaranteed headspace would certainly be a selling point for me, and it sounds like many others.Another vote for origin thread pattern. Using Savage prefits is great, tapping into the existing shouldered prefit market from Proof, LRI, PVA and others is even better. Industry needs to standardize on this. If I already own a few origin prefits (I do) it's hard to justify getting a new action I can't use any of those barrels on. This was a deciding factor for me between trying a nucleus and buying another origin.
All the other aero products I have bought over the years have been excellent. Very excited to see you guys getting into this market.
are you fking serious? you should get the boot for this man, send him a PM and don't derail with this nonsenseDo you also answer questions for Ballistic Advantage?
Not trying to derail it, but I've tried calling and leaving voicemails. They have a data breach.
My last order was sent back to me, twice now, from some overseas email address. Alarming as whoever this is now has all my personal info from the order..not sure what else. I checked on the owners group on FB and there are quite a few of us who are seeing this..so this isnt a me thing.
The way we are manufacturing these nuts there will not be any runout between the internal threads and torquing surface. So realistically you would get the same accuracy from proof savage prefit that you would from one of their shouldered pre-fitsAnother vote for origin thread pattern. Using Savage prefits is great, tapping into the existing shouldered prefit market from Proof, LRI, PVA and others is even better. Industry needs to standardize on this. If I already own a few origin prefits (I do) it's hard to justify getting a new action I can't use any of those barrels on. This was a deciding factor for me between trying a nucleus and buying another origin.
All the other aero products I have bought over the years have been excellent. Very excited to see you guys getting into this market.
if we don’t make something with heavy industry support y’all will flame that it’s proprietary and you can’t buy XYZ products. 700 foot prints are heavily supported with after market options so are 20tpi prefit barrels. Innovative…no, intentional….yesUs either, we're just calling it what it is. Another 700 clone in a sea of 700 clones and another chassis in a sea of chassis. Its cool that its from Aero, i have Aero products. but not blowing anyones socks of with that. Thats all.
I find the savage straight pull more interesting.
It’s floating but we trued up the bolt so it’s not as sloppy as other floating bolt headsFound this image of the action. Looks like a floating bolt head design. You can also see the trigger hanger in the photo.
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See my comment on runout and barrel nuts but yes I agree we will be holding tolerance for shouldered prefitsTBH, and this won't just be my opinion.
shouldered prefit barrel is a MUST especially if you plan to do action or barreled action separate
i'd match it to an impact or zermatt pattern. no need to reinvent the wheel. plus the end user can take advantage of endless prefit options
I wasnt trying to derail anything, Im asking him because BA is " operating as a majority owned subsidiary of Aero Precision."are you fking serious? you should get the boot for this man, send him a PM and don't derail with this nonsense
The way we are manufacturing these nuts there will not be any runout between the internal threads and torquing surface. So realistically you would get the same accuracy from proof savage prefit that you would from one of their shouldered pre-fits
if we don’t make something with heavy industry support y’all will flame that it’s proprietary and you can’t buy XYZ products. 700 foot prints are heavily supported with after market options so are 20tpi prefit barrels. Innovative…no, intentional….yes
We aren’t trying to blow your socks off but the feature sets are intentional and once we actually release the price I think a lot of you who aren’t impressed will realize what we are doing here. Which is lowering the barrier of entry into a sport we love while retaining premium features of actions that cost several hundred dollars more.
Still the need for go, no-go gauges?The way we are manufacturing these nuts there will not be any runout between the internal threads and torquing surface. So realistically you would get the same accuracy from proof savage prefit that you would from one of their shouldered pre-fits
Welcome to the Hide. The action looks great to me, and im looking forward to playing with one. Already been said, but guaranteed headspace is a must imo.The way we are manufacturing these nuts there will not be any runout between the internal threads and torquing surface. So realistically you would get the same accuracy from proof savage prefit that you would from one of their shouldered pre-fits
if we don’t make something with heavy industry support y’all will flame that it’s proprietary and you can’t buy XYZ products. 700 foot prints are heavily supported with after market options so are 20tpi prefit barrels. Innovative…no, intentional….yes
We aren’t trying to blow your socks off but the feature sets are intentional and once we actually release the price I think a lot of you who aren’t impressed will realize what we are doing here. Which is lowering the barrier of entry into a sport we love while retaining premium features of actions that cost several hundred dollars more.
I figured the plan was obvious, since the fanbase for the brand is a large portion of DIY builders.For
For me the use of a shouldered prefits isn't about accuracy necessarily. It's about ease and speed of swapping barrels. I have Tikka, TL3's, and an AI all set up to swap barrels. None of them wear a barrel that will stay put until it's burned out. By implementing user quick- swappable bolt heads Aero has already positioned themselves to make a platform with a wider range of use. Pls follow thru with the barrels. If you could produce an array of likewise affordable shouldered barrels for your own action then you have created a fairly unique selling point that separates your product from the Mack Bros Evo, Defiance Tenacity, and other actions that might be your competitors and are already on the market. That will provide the "why" to those that are mildly interested but not sold.
This sounds like a excellent goal. I hope that it works out and helps to grow the sport. I know Aero has a big following and hopefully this product gets a few of them into their first custom bolt gun. I like that the action and chassis will be offered à la carte rather than as just another affordable production rifle.We aren’t trying to blow your socks off but the feature sets are intentional and once we actually release the price I think a lot of you who aren’t impressed will realize what we are doing here. Which is lowering the barrier of entry into a sport we love while retaining premium features of actions that cost several hundred dollars more.
Pro Tip: You should be go/no-go gauging ALL barrel/action combo's after a switch regardless of action or barrel manufacturer "guarantee." Never ever assume headspace is within spec until its shown to be.Still the need for go, no-go gauges?
Was left hand availability already answered?
Always do, or at least a version: Go, and Go with a couple layers of scotch tape.Pro Tip: You should be go/no-go gauging ALL barrel/action combo's after a switch regardless of action or barrel manufacturer "guarantee." Never ever assume headspace is within spec until its shown to be.
A few thoughts:The way we are manufacturing these nuts there will not be any runout between the internal threads and torquing surface. So realistically you would get the same accuracy from proof savage prefit that you would from one of their shouldered pre-fits
if we don’t make something with heavy industry support y’all will flame that it’s proprietary and you can’t buy XYZ products. 700 foot prints are heavily supported with after market options so are 20tpi prefit barrels. Innovative…no, intentional….yes
We aren’t trying to blow your socks off but the feature sets are intentional and once we actually release the price I think a lot of you who aren’t impressed will realize what we are doing here. Which is lowering the barrier of entry into a sport we love while retaining premium features of actions that cost several hundred dollars more.
How is this a CRF with dual ejectors on the bolt face?And again, given the pictures of the bolt face and the CRF nature of the action, my guess is that is precisely the market space you want to break into and those two actions in particular are among the actions you are wanting to compete against.
It’s push feedA few thoughts:
I know that Show Show coverage stated that the MSRP would be "sub $1k". That's a fairly nebulous statement, which is understandable. Generating buzz and keeping people interested is important, and a lot of us are interested.
I'm guessing at some point there have been conversations between your costing people and the marketing folks to decide where to set the price point while still either breaking even or even taking a controlled loss until enough actions get into the hands of shooters to develop the reputation you guys want.
Given that you're newcomers to the bolt action space, conventional wisdom would expect a significant enough price reduction vs the competition to pull shooters away from that shiny new Origin or Nucleus they want to spend their dollars on and make them come over to you.
And again, given the pictures of the bolt face and the CRF nature of the action, my guess is that is precisely the market space you want to break into and those two actions in particular are among the actions you are wanting to compete against.
When can we expect an official MSRP?
YeaHow is this a CRF with dual ejectors on the bolt face?
My mistake, I saw that there wasn't a complete ring around the bolt face and mistakenly thought that was for rounds to slide up into position like a CRF action.How is this a CRF with dual ejectors on the bolt face?
We wont have left hand actions to start but we are looking into offering them afterwards.Still the need for go, no-go gauges?
Was left hand availability already answered?
@Aero Precision, shouldered pre fits are more desirable to shooters like me because I don’t need to get the go and no-go gauges to swap barrels
The fuck you don't.@Aero Precision, shouldered pre fits are more desirable to shooters like me because I don’t need to get the go and no-go gauges to swap barrels.
I’ve got some. I know what they cost. I don’t drag them to the range if I swap barrels out there.That's what, a one time $60 - $75 expense?
SMH
I guess I’ll just live on the wild side with the other anti-guagers. That’s trade marked. Don’t be using my shitThe fuck you don't.
How’d the receiver feel. Cocking effort etc?I saw it and I liked it... a lot!
The entire package that Aero is coming out with is excellent.
Action
700 footprint
3 lug
pick your trigger
interchangeable bolt head
change the barrel at home if you desire or have 3 brain cells
best part sub 1K!
Chassis
multiple QD points on each side
full ARCA
Quick change adjustments for rear stock config, length of pull, cheek height, butt pad
If I remember correctly spigot mount... I might be wrong and I cant remember the price for the chassis
The Areo was my pick for the bolt gun of the show.
The Seekins Hit was the next one in line for innovation the quick change barrel is a super cool design just not in a 700 footprint but a proprietary chassis so that limits it for some people.
The bare action in the booth had a timney CE I think. From the pics anyway.Was there a trigger in the action when you played with it?
I don’t drag them to the range if I swap barrels out there.
I'm a sucker for the cheapo aero AR builds, small and large frame and follow the reddit gundeals threads.That would make two of us. Hell I'd buy 2 of them
So your willing to pay $400-800 for barrels but not $50 on a go gauge that unlike barrels last more than a year.
First firing unless you account for it with common case forming methods,,,,nothing................................................................Yes.
Counter argument. What would happen if I received a barrel from a Smith that was 8 thou too long in headspace. Say I didn't check it, screwed it on and fired a round out of it. What would happen when I torch off that round?
Nice Hardinge Super Precision lathe.First firing unless you account for it with common case forming methods,,,,nothing.
That said eight thou initial expansion is excessive and can greatly reduce case life by promoting case head separations.
And besides the possible loss of case life case head separations are almost always a real pain in the ass and can even cause chamber damage.
Look, if your smith is excellent you’ll likely not need a go gauge but my smith is an idiot and I always check his work.
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The classic phrase “trust but verify” is around for good reason.