Rifle Scopes AI AXMC recommended scope

[redneckbmxer24]

Sure buddy, sounds like you work for Leupold. Im more than happy with my PMii's and Im not looking at buying a Mark5, EverGo blow Leupy smoke at some one else please..Thanks

-Reagan

How about some fanboy pics?

Here’s my 2017 AX I had prior to my PSR. Note the S&B 5-25 T3 on it:



Here’s my 2017 AXMC wearing a NF 5-25 T3 that didn’t last a week before it took a shit and was a nightmare to deal with NF on. Note the other NF in the pic and the S&B on the Annie:



Here’s the same AXMC with the S&B 5-25 T3 that replaced the broken Nightforce:



Another pic of shooting 2300 yards with it because why not:



Here’s my 2014 AX wearing a S&B 5-25 H2CMR:



Here’s my 2012 AX and 2014 AT wearing NF F1 3.5-15’s:






Also not pictured since it was so long ago was my AE MK1 that wore a NF F1 for a while and then a S&B 5-25 P4F. Or my AW and AWSM that both wore S&B 5-25 P4F’s. Or a bunch of non AI rifles that wore S&B’s, NF’s, and others.

If you’re going to accuse me of being a fanboy, at least pick a brand that might make your statement a little more credible.

 

[Chickentoast]

And so it goes...

 

[Widowmaker0001]

So if someone's opinion varies from yours you contradict yourself... Are you completely retarded?

The MK6's had problems, lots of them. Canted reticles, tracking issues, and less than stellar glass. Yes they sucked. The MK8's turrets sucked until they put the new ones on and they were priced ridiculously. The MK8's with the new style turrets are phenomenal optics too, but not worth the price Leupold wants for them.

I'm no Leupold fanboy, I was 100% anti Leupold for years until the MK5's came about because they had their head in the sand just like you do. They pulled it out and got their shit together and executed and a great optic at a competitive price just like they were always capable of.

By your standards it seems an optic can't possibly be better unless it costs more with would mean that Hensoldt that's like $7K is the best scope in the world.

Go look up what it means to contradict yourself. Then read everything you wrote in this thread. Then go talk to someone who cares about what your saying. Personal attacks make me laugh and the amount of defense you show through your writing makes me laugh even more. Your opinion not being mine doesnt mean contradict btw. Contradict yourself means you made a statement,"is it SB or a TT level?", then you put "No", then go on about how the Mark5 is everything the SB isnt by justifying its differences. Thats contradicting yourself. So in Your words,"is it SB or TT level?" No. You said it...

-Reagan

 

[redneckbmxer24]

Almost all companies are guilty of that.

Do you not remember when S&B were selling for almost $4k then slashing prices. Plenty of pissed off people.
Or when Minox put out 50% certs and it dumped the price of a ZP5. Plenty of pissed off people.
Or Nightforce releasing the ATACR undercutting the BEAST.

Those don’t support his narrative...

 

[Widowmaker0001]

@redneckbmxer24 honestly, why dont we agree to disagree? We are both throwing this thread out of the OPs main question.

-Reagan

 

[redneckbmxer24]

Go look up what it means to contradict yourself. Then read everything you wrote in this thread. Then go talk to someone who cares about what your saying. Personal attacks make me laugh and the amount of defense you show through your writing makes me laugh even more. Your opinion not being mine doesnt mean contradict btw. Contradict yourself means you made a statement,"is it SB or a TT level?", then you put "No", then go on about how the Mark5 is everything the SB isnt by justifying its differences. Thats contradicting yourself. So in Your words,"is it SB or TT level?" No. You said it...

-Reagan

Why don't you go back and read post #39 in this thread where you first quoted me in your pathetic attempt to discredit me and you specifically mention "glass" and nothing else because you like a lot of people think glass quality is everything. Then re-read post #40 where I quoted you saying that I believe the S&B glass is still a little ahead of it (my opinion that I've continued to support and have no once contradicted), and where I mentioned that my buddy feels the MK5 is better than his S&B.

The list of features that the MK5 beats the S&B in that I later mentioned has absolute jack shit to do with glass quality, but everything to do with why I believe the MK5 is a better optic overall.

 

[Widowmaker0001]

Almost all companies are guilty of that.

Do you not remember when S&B were selling for almost $4k then slashing prices. Plenty of pissed off people.
Or when Minox put out 50% certs and it dumped the price of a ZP5. Plenty of pissed off people.
Or Nightforce releasing the ATACR undercutting the BEAST.

Well Schmidt did drop the price from the old days but didnt do it by undercutting the PMii line with another product line that had more features for less money. Cant speak on NF why or Minox offering crazy discounts.

-Reagan

 

[Widowmaker0001]

Why don't you go back and read post #39 in this thread where you first quoted me in your pathetic attempt to discredit me and you specifically mention "glass" and nothing else because you like a lot of people think glass quality is everything. Then re-read post #40 where I quoted you saying that I believe the S&B glass is still a little ahead of it (my opinion that I've continued to support and have no once contradicted), and where I mentioned that my buddy feels the MK5 is better than his S&B.

The list of features that the MK5 beats the S&B in that I later mentioned has absolute jack shit to do with glass quality, but everything to do with why I believe the MK5 is a better optic overall.

Your honestly one of those hot heads that thinks they know it all, when they sure and hell especially Dont. Look at what u wrote in its entirety,lol...ok guy, go bother someone else that Cares, because I sure dont....sigh

-Reagan

 

[redneckbmxer24]

Your honestly one of those hot heads that thinks they know it all, when they sure and hell especially Dont. Look at what u read,lol...ok guy, go bother someone else that Cares, because I sure dont....sigh

-Reagan

You think I'm a hot head? Quite the opposite and there's many here that know me that can attest to that.

You accused me of being a Leupold fanboy, I well proved that wrong with pics. You say I contradicted myself because I think S&B glass is still better and my buddy has a different opinion, and the posts here prove you wrong there. Now I'm a hot head. Nah homie, you called me out and I made you look really dumb and that's all there is to it.

 

[Widowmaker0001]

You think I'm a hot head? Quite the opposite and there's many here that know me that can attest to that.

You accused me of being a Leupold fanboy, I well proved that wrong with pics. You say I contradicted myself because I think S&B glass is still better and my buddy has a different opinion, and the posts here prove you wrong there. Now I'm a hot head. Nah homie, you called me out and I made you look really dumb and that's all there is to it.

Nope. Your wrong. Im also not your "homie"...again, go bother someone else. Ive said my part,you can live with it or not but Im not changing a thing I said. Have a goodday redneckbmxer24

-Reagan

 

[Simia Dei]

I overinvested in schmidt, therefore they are the most greatest scope since sliced bread scopes. In all seriousness, had NF and vortex, found I just like Schmidt more so stuck with them. Reticles are T2, P4L and MSR. Almost wishing I went MSR2 and may swap the T2 for it yet

 

[ShaoKahn]

Nice picture of the Schmidt family. Next purchase I think will be another S&B or a TT. Just waiting for the AI AXSR to be released.

 

[Sixfivesavage]

In my opinion the 25x MK5HD is a better set of glass than the K318I and the 25x ATACR as well as the 25x Minox. I've not had a TT or ZCO or even seen one in person. I've looked through one S&B a while ago and it was nice but nohing that made me want to kick a gen 2 razor down the line for it. I'll never gave Leupold a thought much less had the thought of putting one on an AI untill I got sick of my Kahles and wanted to try T3. Bought a used MK5HD with T3 because it was a cheaper option to try T3 out. It has far and away surpassed my expectations and is severely undervalued as far as I'm concerned. I'm generally pretty hard on my shit and its stood up just as well, and in some cases better than the others I've had. I even like T3, never woulda thought that.

 

[E. Bryant]

Nightforce BEAST

That's what mine wears. If I did it all over again, I'd probably go the ATACR 7-35x route, but I transferred the BEAST from another rifle that the AXMC replaced and it's fine.

 

[jwl45auto]

You mentioned you're new to LR shooting, have you had a mid or high mag scope before? If so, is there a reticle you have used and prefer? If not, there are many options, for the AXMC though and the switch barrel capability the Tangent Theta 5-25 and Schmidt Bender 5-25 PM2 would be my recommendations due to the ease of changing zero and built in below "zero" stops (.5-.6 below zero usually). The ATACR line is great as well but if you plan to switch calibers and zeros often I think there are other options that offer a quicker zero stop/zero change and less moving parts to mess with.

But, since you have no budget I would just buy one of each and keep the one you like the most.

Im very unfamiliar with Tangent. They are certainly pricier than the ZCO 527 or an ATACR. In you opinion what would be the biggest advantage that extra money buys? It would definitely come closer to exceeding the cost of the rifle than the other scopes.

 

[Widowmaker0001]

Im very unfamiliar with Tangent. They are certainly pricier than the ZCO 527 or an ATACR. In you opinion what would be the biggest advantage that extra money buys? It would definitely come closer to exceeding the cost of the rifle than the other scopes.

Tangent Theta is what was Premier Reticle after they closed down and started back up, funded and distributed by Armament Technology Incorporated , correct me if Im wrong as Im using my old memory banks. All I read are good things about them.

-Reagan

 

[TangoSierra916]

Im very unfamiliar with Tangent. They are certainly pricier than the ZCO 527 or an ATACR. In you opinion what would be the biggest advantage that extra money buys? It would definitely come closer to exceeding the cost of the rifle than the other scopes.

I cant speak to the ZCO and the quality or features it offers besides what I've read. But, IMO going with the TT on a platform like the AXMC where quick caliber change is possible, the TT offers arguably the best turret functionality for that application if you're changing calibers often, thats the biggest advantage to me.

NF ATACR 7-35 is an extremely proven optic, ZCO while I haven't owned one seems to be getting great reviews from users who know what they're talking about, so I respect those opinions. I still think reticle choice is key in the choice of TT vs ZCO vs NF, theyre all big scopes with large mag ranges, not a bad choice on any really. The TT just offers less stuff to mess with when changing zeros.

 

[jwl45auto]

I cant speak to the ZCO and the quality or features it offers besides what I've read. But, IMO going with the TT on a platform like the AXMC where quick caliber change is possible, the TT offers arguably the best turret functionality for that application if you're changing calibers often, thats the biggest advantage to me.

NF ATACR 7-35 is an extremely proven optic, ZCO while I haven't owned one seems to be getting great reviews from users who know what they're talking about, so I respect those opinions. I still think reticle choice is key in the choice of TT vs ZCO vs NF, theyre all big scopes with large mag ranges, not a bad choice on any really. The TT just offers less stuff to mess with when changing zeros.

thanks

 

[ShaoKahn]

You mentioned you're new to LR shooting, have you had a mid or high mag scope before? If so, is there a reticle you have used and prefer? If not, there are many options, for the AXMC though and the switch barrel capability the Tangent Theta 5-25 and Schmidt Bender 5-25 PM2 would be my recommendations due to the ease of changing zero and built in below "zero" stops (.5-.6 below zero usually). The ATACR line is great as well but if you plan to switch calibers and zeros often I think there are other options that offer a quicker zero stop/zero change and less moving parts to mess with.

But, since you have no budget I would just buy one of each and keep the one you like the most.

Ok, dumb question, how do I set the zero stop with a .5 mils below zero? I have S&B 3-20 US and when I set the zero, I don’t have a .5 below which I’d really like to have.

 

[TangoSierra916]

Ok, dumb question, how do I set the zero stop with a .5 mils below zero? I have S&B 3-20 US and when I set the zero, I don’t have a .5 below which I’d really like to have.

thats a good question, I honestly haven't messed with the 3-20 so I cant speak to that one. Sorry. If you search on here there may be a thread on it.

 

[jwl45auto]

To everyone who took the time to give a noob good advice, thank you. I ultimately chose to go with a ATACR 5-25 F1 scope I found here for sale. combined with my rifle, I doubt I’ll ever be in danger of needing anything better.

 

[brianf]

Never say never...buuut you won’t HAVE to upgrade

Great choice have fun