AI Rifles, MLok?

#3
I remember reading that AI built their proprietary "KeySlot" rail system to be stronger than the KeyMod system. Just like the new Q Rifles designed a new rail system for their Switch rifle, I don't think AI will make a change any time soon, unless it was for the next gen AX, and it was an improvement in strength/durability.

IMO precision rifles don't have the same market for hanging tactical doodads off of them like the AR market, so there isn't a huge benefit in terms of selling accessories. Plus, out of the box an AX comes with enough rails to satisfy most mounting needs.
 
#4
why would it matter. there is no benefit to m-lok over keymod. everyone makes everything that you need for the keymod setup. I personally don't like the look of the M-lok rails anyway
 
#6
Id be happy if AI made the key mod on their rail function as a qd sling mount point like SLR keymod. Really nice feature and you don't have to attach a piece of rail to mount your sling.
 
#12
Massoud said:
This is an interesting idea, we've considered doing an MLOK AI rail, is there interest from you guys? The AI does come with a lot of rails already. They also changed the mount style once or twice which complicates things.
Justin
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Justin, zero interest here as I will be selling AI to fund SOTIC so lets not go getting distracted by shiny things now..stay the course!
 
#14
Are you guys really willing to spend $300-$400 on a new forend tube just for integrated flush cups? I understand having conformity from rifle to rifle if all of them have MLok accessories, but an AX comes with 3 picatinny rail sections, so it's not like you have to spend hundreds of dollars right off the bat just to mount a bipod or sling.

I could understand if AI didn't include any rails with the rifle, but does anyone actually end up needing more rails to mount accessories?
 
#15
No I'm not willing to spend that just for integrated flush cups. Just saying it would be a nice easy feature to incorporate on their systems. I find the whole keymod vs mloc a pointless argument. They do exactly the same thing...id buy either depending on which style/features i liked best at the time.
 
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samb300 said:
I remember reading that AI built their proprietary "KeySlot" rail system to be stronger than the KeyMod system. Just like the new Q Rifles designed a new rail system for their Switch rifle, I don't think AI will make a change any time soon, unless it was for the next gen AX, and it was an improvement in strength/durability.

IMO precision rifles don't have the same market for hanging tactical doodads off of them like the AR market, so there isn't a huge benefit in terms of selling accessories. Plus, out of the box an AX comes with enough rails to satisfy most mounting needs.
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i dont know that i agree with you on this. there is a market for it especially for a combat sniper rifle that needs to be employed through darkness. ancillary gear locations are much desired for things like lasers and illuminators etc and the mlok is a great way to do it while keeping the fore-end smooth and unclutered when not in use.
 
#20
Other than not having integrated flush cup mounts on the forend, what prevents the user from removing the factory AI rails to keep the forend smooth and uncluttered?

If you need a laser or designator or flashlight or whatever (which 99% of civilian users will not), what's wrong with using the factory AI rails to do so? The whole thing I'm debating is the point of changing from the AI KeySlot to MLok. Has any AI rail ever failed in the field? Will MLok be stronger or more durable? If you have a parts bin full of $20 MLok rails that's great, but as I said before, how many people need more rails than what comes with an AX out of the box? It makes no sense to spend $400 on a new forend so you can use $20 MLok rails, rather than just buying another $60 AI rail if you need it.

IMO, switching to MLok is an expensive solution to a problem that doesn't exist with the current AX system.
 
#21
now. I don't care to swap for M-lok, but if you were making a new rail for the AI, I would make something with a nice flat base like the seekins sp3r. I would def be interested in something like that
 
#23
Huh? Are you saying he's wrong? Because AI doesn't use Keymod, they use their own propriety system designed to be stronger.

You are right in that Keymod and MLok are not the same, no one is debating that.

The correction was made because Keymod and Key Slot are NOT the same, therefore implying (whether you meant to or not) AI's system is more likely to fail than MLok is incorrect.
 

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-=boone=- said:
Reading comprehension and reading everyone's comments plays a big part in forums. You should try to correct people less and be a sponge. It will help you in the future slick.
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I'm good but I appreciate your suggestion ;) You were comparing the failure rates of Keymod and MLOK. Since the AI KeySlot system isn't the same as Keymod your point about failures has no point in this particular discussion about MLOK and KeySlot.
 
#25
According to the comments section from Soldier Sytems, USSOCOM also tested other systems, I'm guessing keyslot, HKey. Only the exec summary was made fouo and it said MLok was three times stronger than anything else tested. Now the rest of the report is FOUO because of proprietary info contained within. To me MLok just has a cleaner rail.
 
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#26
The reason I want mlok is because all my guns have mlok accesories. Having only one gun without it is annoying.

I also don't understand why it is a big deal to request this aftermarket part? Sure not everybody will buy or use one but there are people out there that will.

If a company is willing to make a part for the consumer let it happen.
 
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