AICS

[jibrail600]

Accuracy International sells chasis systems in both AW and AX.
They say any Remington 700 short/long action can be put onto this system.

Can I forexample take apart a factory Remington 700 LTR and put the action and the barrel directly onto the AW/AX AICS system without problem?

Help needed.

 

[jswhitesell619]

Re: AICS

That's the purpose and design about them, remove barreled action with trigger group and drop it in the aics and torque to proper specs and go. By far the easiest way to go so no bedding or anything is required but some people still do.

 

[jibrail600]

Re: AICS

wow! sounds easy! So everything can be used from the Remington 700 LTR? Waht about the magazine? That is from the AICS kit right?

 

[Lead Heads]

Re: AICS

All AICS do come with one 5 round magazine.

 

[Oham1]

Re: AICS

Go for it. I got a 2.0 here on the hide and bolt in my Rem 700 aac-sd. I could not be more satisfied with it.

 

[dbsinh2o]

Re: AICS

The only issue I had was with the safety on a Timney trigger. There's a little pin that slides out the side of the Timney unit, and you won't be able to engage the safety without modifying the chassis or the pin to allow clearance.

 

[jibrail600]

Re: AICS

what is 2.0? any other versions?

besides, what do you recommend aw or ax? is it easy enough for an untrained guy like me to swap between the chasis?

 

[Flatland308]

Re: AICS

2.0 is the folding stock version and the 1.5 is the fixed stock model.

 

[Cproflow]

Re: AICS

The 2.0 is the folding version of the AICS. The AW already folds by its standard design

 

[jibrail600]

Re: AICS

Ok sounds good! Sounds like this is the way to go.

Now, I can only buy a full rifle to convert from, so what do you guys recommend in terms of durability and accuracy when it comes to remington 700 rifels?

-LTR
-SPS
-XCR

etc.... any sugestions? All inputs are welcome

Also, is AICS a ITAR restricted item? can this item be shipped to Europe? (European price is insanely high)

 

[ADDERLEY]

Re: AICS

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jibrail600</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ok sounds good! Sounds like this is the way to go.

Now, I can only buy a full rifle to convert from, so what do you guys recommend in terms of durability and accuracy when it comes to remington 700 rifels?

-LTR
-SPS
-XCR
etc.... any sugestions? All inputs are welcome

Also, is AICS a ITAR restricted item? can this item be shipped to Europe? (European price is insanely high) </div></div>

Why not buy an AI AE? and save yourself a load of hassle.
You will also end up with a more accurate system.

 

[dddoo7]

Re: AICS

An actual accuracy international rifle would be nice if funds permit. If you are on more of a fixed budget, the AICS is a great way to go. It is an excellent stock system for the R-700 format. When you are choosing a rifle to put into the AICS, you need to consider that you will be either scraping or selling the original stock-- so it really doesn't matter. You are concerned with the action action and barrel. Since all R-700 factory actions are similar, the barrel is the major point of concern. The SPS-V and the SPS-T are both heavy barrel guns (one 26" one 20") and work very well in the AICS. With the XCR and LTR you are just paying extra for the stock (which you won't use) and the fluting. Fluting is good if weight is a concern, however, unfluted barrels with the same dimensions are stiffer than fluted barrels and usually more accurate.

If I were you, I would go with either the SPS-V or the SPS-T depending on which barrel length you want. The other one I would consider is AAC-SD because of the faster twist rate (1:10).

 

[jibrail600]

Re: AICS

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ddd oo7</div><div class="ubbcode-body">An actual accuracy international rifle would be nice if funds permit. If you are on more of a fixed budget, the AICS is a great way to go. It is an excellent stock system for the R-700 format. When you are choosing a rifle to put into the AICS, you need to consider that you will be either scraping or selling the original stock-- so it really doesn't matter. You are concerned with the action action and barrel. Since all R-700 factory actions are similar, the barrel is the major point of concern. The SPS-V and the SPS-T are both heavy barrel guns (one 26" one 20") and work very well in the AICS. With the XCR and LTR you are just paying extra for the stock (which you won't use) and the fluting. Fluting is good if weight is a concern, however, unfluted barrels with the same dimensions are stiffer than fluted barrels and usually more accurate.

If I were you, I would go with either the SPS-V or the SPS-T depending on which barrel length you want. The other one I would consider is AAC-SD because of the faster twist rate (1:10). </div></div>

Ok, sounds like a very good way to do things.
So whats the difference between SPS-V and SPS-T in the barrel section? I guess they are the same right?

I'm reading a bit about hammer forged barrels. How are Remington barrels made? Are they hammer forged? Chromed lined?

 

[dddoo7]

Re: AICS

The only difference between the two barrels is that the SPS-V is a 26" barrel and the SPS-T is a 20" barrel. I don't know if they are hammer forged, and I highly doubt they are chrome lined. They are just factory steel barrels. They are a good start for long range shooting, but if you shoot very long, you will soon reach the limits of the factory barrel.

My SPS-V in an AICS is shooting sub 1/2" consistently with handloads. Remington factory barrels all have a very deep chamber and therefore handloading really helps accuracy as you can get closer to the lands. Federal Gold Medal Match ammo will hold right at 1 MOA out of my gun.

Also keep in mind that the stock will have to be inlet if you want to install a jewell trigger. It is not a big deal, but something to remember. I inlet mine with a dremel tool in about 20 minutes.

 

[jibrail600]

Re: AICS

I think the SPS-T is the way to go. But does hammer forged /chrome lined barrel exist for precision rifles at all?

 

[jibrail600]

Re: AICS

I just saw the Remington 700 titanium. Any problems droping one of these titanium versions into an AICS?

 

[tylerw02]

Re: AICS

The titanium 700s are lw hunting rifles. Putting a light hunting rifle in an AICS would defeat the purpose of owning a LW hunting rifle.

Either way, all 700s fit if you buy the right AICS.

If you don't have a rifle yet and you can afford it, I'd recommend buying the AI AE. I'm wanting to say they are in the upper 3k range.

 

[jswhitesell619]

Re: AICS

I would look into a 700 of some sort, I picked the 700 aac-af due to the barrel really. It has a 1 in 10 twist barrel and a threaded end for suppressor or brake of some kind.

 

[Victor Co Heather]

Re: AICS

My first precision rig was a Remy 700 bolted to an AICS. Shoots less than .5 moa with the factory barrel.

 

[jibrail600]

Re: AICS

I gonna built my self one instead of buying the AE. I think I might go 6.5x55 instead of the 308

What is it with the AAC/1:10 twist rate? Is this a barrel from AAC who makes silencers?

As for the remington 700 titan, I was more thinking about the corrosion resistance. I'm gonna use this rifel in marine environment with alot of salt water. So a titan version would be cool or the XCR with the trinye coating.

 

[Lead Heads]

Re: AICS

I just received my Accuracy International AX chassis today. Very exciting stuff, until I mounted it. Remington Mil spec action 5R barrel and Jewel trigger.
Just like my old AICS, I do have to inlet a little for the safety to move.
You would figure AI would have addressed this problem from all the people who complained about it with the 1.0, 1.5, and 2.0.
Oh well looks like I need to tear into it with a Dremel.
On the positive side it does look and feel great. Can't wait to DuraCoat it.

 

[jibrail600]

Re: AICS

Is this AICS/AX item allowed to be exported to europe? Your prices are so much cheaper than ours!

 

[jibrail600]

Re: AICS

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tylerw02</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Either way, all 700s fit if you buy the right AICS.</div></div>

I'm thinking to buy a remington 700 to fit the AICS AX. Is this the "right" remington 700 for hte AICS AX? I assume AICS and AICS AX both fit all Remington 700 series?

 

[rideHPD]

Re: AICS

All 700's are based on the same receiver that is bolted to the AICS or AX chassis, depending on user choice. The only thing that might hinder a factory remington rifle from fitting is the contour (the thickness shape) of the barrel, and I cannot for the life of me think of one with a barrel that isn't compatible. Titanium is also marginally less corrosive than stainless steel, although I don't know what std Rem barrels are made out of. Chromoly steel is about the same.

 

[popeye089]

Re: AICS

It's sounds like you are new to shooting completely. You didn't mention what your scope options or budget are. If I were you, before doing anything else, I would buy a stock rifle, say Remington SPS or 5R, save the money from buying an AICS and buy some good glass. If you are dead set on a 308, buy some good match ammo, not bulk garbage, and just practice. I personally prefer the 175 but if you want to go lighter go 155. I personally feel the 168 is a bad choice. It's not as good as the 155 or 175. Make every round count when you shoot. Take your time. To many times I see new shooters doing speed drills when they haven't even mastered the basic fundamentals.

 

[IronMaidenFan]

Re: AICS

Is the AICS ambidextrous?

 

[jibrail600]

Re: AICS

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: popeye089</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's sounds like you are new to shooting completely. You didn't mention what your scope options or budget are. If I were you, before doing anything else, I would buy a stock rifle, say Remington SPS or 5R, save the money from buying an AICS and buy some good glass. If you are dead set on a 308, buy some good match ammo, not bulk garbage, and just practice. I personally prefer the 175 but if you want to go lighter go 155. I personally feel the 168 is a bad choice. It's not as good as the 155 or 175. Make every round count when you shoot. Take your time. To many times I see new shooters doing speed drills when they haven't even mastered the basic fundamentals.</div></div>

Yes it is my first rifle. But of course I have been shooting rifle, they just didn't belong to me, and I thought now was the time to get my own.

There won't be any glass on my rifle, I will run Eotech with a magnifier.

 

[sgtlmj]

Re: AICS

http://www.accuracyinternational.com/assets/assets/aics_brochure.pdf

http://www.accuracyinternational.com/assets/assets/ax-aics-2012.pdf

 

[aqualung]

Re: AICS

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jibrail600</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

There won't be any glass on my rifle, I will run Eotech with a magnifier. </div></div>

Eotech counts as glass. You ain't shooting no long range with that rig.

Hmmmmm... It lead me to suspish....

N

 

[IronMaidenFan]

Re: AICS

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Paduan Learner</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Hmmmmm... It lead me to suspish....

</div></div>

I think so too.

 

[aqualung]

Re: AICS

Didn't wanna use the word, but you caught my drift. Nice!

N

 

[dddoo7]

Re: AICS

If you are putting an eotech on it, you might as well just get something like an AR. This will not be a precision rig with that glass. Also the titanium actions are light barrels- good for hunting - not good for target shooting. Looks like you might need to do some reading and research before you are ready to consider buying something.

 

[Lead Heads]

Re: AICS

IronMan Fan,
The ACIS/AX is currently only available in right hand action.

 

[Lead Heads]

Re: AICS

jibrail,
Just my opinion, I would highly recommend getting a good scope and not using the EO Tech with magnifier. EO Tech makes a great product I run 2 of them. However, you will not get as much out of the rifle you are planning on building as you would with nice glass.

 

[IronMaidenFan]

Re: AICS

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TacDriverTactical</div><div class="ubbcode-body">IronMan Fan,
The ACIS/AX is currently only available in right hand action. </div></div>

I should have been more specific. Although I shoot left handed, using a right handed action is fine. I just need to know if the actual stock will accommodate a left handed shooter using a right handed action.

 

[Lead Heads]

Re: AICS

IronManFan,
Yes it will work for you that way.

 

[IronMaidenFan]

Re: AICS

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TacDriverTactical</div><div class="ubbcode-body">IronManFan,
Yes it will work for you that way. </div></div>

Fantastic, thanks for the information.

 

[popeye089]

Re: AICS

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: IronMaidenFan</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Paduan Learner</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Hmmmmm... It lead me to suspish....

</div></div>

I think so too.

</div></div>
I concur............

 

[rideHPD]

Re: AICS

houston, do we have a troll?

 

[jibrail600]

Re: AICS

TacDriver, thanks for your kind of assistance. Your answers are much appreciated.

Now for the trolling thing! First of all, I'm not american and are therefore not used to the idioms you guys are using. Therefore this lead me to check what you really meant by "troll".

And this is what I found..

"...posting intended to produce a large volume of frivolous responses. The term can also refer to someone making such a posting ("a troll") or to the action ("trolling", "to troll")."

"Great"! So, a novice in a given field of hobby, due to his questions are classified as a "troll"? Or was it the wrong usage of the idiom "glass" that set the whole ting off?!

Now, what made me wonder is this. If EoTech falls under the "glass" idiom, then putting an Eotech on a rifle is just a matter of optic taste. How could this make me a potential "troll" just because you have a different taste for optics?!

Now if Eotech does not fall under the "glass" idiom, then what makes you think I'm "trolling" all of a sudden?

At the moment I typed "glass" I was thinking Sniperforum members had the understanding that "glass" equals scopes and not Eotech. (apparently you holds the same understanding due to your hint of "a trolling") But at the same time you write that Eotech is "glass". I'm sorry, but switching between idioms when using the same word is difficult to follow in a conversation! It just look like you are contradicting yourself.



Now I do appreciate the advice reading some more before buying. In fact this membership with Sniperhide is a part of my reading and information gaining process. I mean isn't forum design to give people more informational exchange? Or maybe I'm wrong? Maybe members should posses a certain degree of knowledge before joining?

So unless you classify "reading" and refers to the old fashion "ink on paper", I think I'm doing pretty well by reading some of the informative response in here, untill I bumped into the "troll" posts!

"...houston do we have a trool?" WTF?!

You know, thousands of great products doesn't make people forget about the defect one! And some of you guys in here, gives me a bad impression of SniperHide's guys' attitude!

And BTW I think you should see this one...
http://www.google.dk/imgres?q=Accur...0&ndsp=47&ved=1t:429,r:4,s:0,i:77&tx=96&ty=83

"precision rig"? What do you know about my skills?

 

[jibrail600]

Re: AICS

Oh by the way... "All shades of opinion feed an open mind...
Peter Gabriel"

Why is EoTech not feeding your open mind when it comes to a bolt action? Have you seen all the facets of a bolt action and its purpose(s)?

 

[Oham1]

Re: AICS

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Michael Victor</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My first precision rig was a Remy 700 bolted to an AICS. Shoots less than .5 moa with the factory barrel.

</div></div>
+1

 

[Oham1]

Re: AICS

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: popeye089</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's sounds like you are new to shooting completely. You didn't mention what your scope options or budget are. If I were you, before doing anything else, I would buy a stock rifle, say Remington SPS or 5R, save the money from buying an AICS and buy some good glass. If you are dead set on a 308, buy some good match ammo, not bulk garbage, and just practice. I personally prefer the 175 but if you want to go lighter go 155. I personally feel the 168 is a bad choice. It's not as good as the 155 or 175. Make every round count when you shoot. Take your time. To many times I see new shooters doing speed drills when they haven't even mastered the basic fundamentals.</div></div>

I have been shooting with Federal 168 Sierras Match Kings on my aac-sd. I have to say that I always got great results with them.

 

[rideHPD]

Re: AICS

I apologize, it was not my intent to insult. The only time I hear of people putting 1x optics on a bolt gun are for hunting dangerous game, which I would hope no one would attempt with a .308 Win, or for marine interdiction, like the picture you posted, although it's typically performed with semi-automatic high-caliber rifles. Now let me ask you a question: why on earth would you want to put an Eotech on bolt action rifle? With a reticule that at best offers 1MOA worth of precision and no fine adjustment, why would you hinder your ability to shoot at extended ranges? We all started somewhere, and I hope by the end of this you understand where we're coming from so that you can get the best possible rifle for circumstances.

 

[dddoo7]

Re: AICS

I have seen eotech's used out of helicopters like that before, however, their main objective is not extreme precision. They are like the page says, 1000 feet over the battlefield in a moving vehicle where quick target acquisition is important. In that situation, an eotech would be more effective than a 10x scope. However, If you are not planning to shoot out of a moving helicopter and If you are planning to shoot long range (500-1000 yards), you will be much better suited using a standard scope than an eotech. I'm not trying to insult you, just trying to keep you from making a several hundred dollar mistake.

However, if you are dead set on the eotech, go ahead and buy it, try it out and see if you like it. you can always use it on another gun if you don't like it.

 

[dbsinh2o]

Re: AICS

An EOTech on a 700/AICS? You're not, by chance, from the Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan?

 

[ADDERLEY]

Re: AICS

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[popeye089]

Re: AICS

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: oham1</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: popeye089</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's sounds like you are new to shooting completely. You didn't mention what your scope options or budget are. If I were you, before doing anything else, I would buy a stock rifle, say Remington SPS or 5R, save the money from buying an AICS and buy some good glass. If you are dead set on a 308, buy some good match ammo, not bulk garbage, and just practice. I personally prefer the 175 but if you want to go lighter go 155. I personally feel the 168 is a bad choice. It's not as good as the 155 or 175. Make every round count when you shoot. Take your time. To many times I see new shooters doing speed drills when they haven't even mastered the basic fundamentals.</div></div>

I have been shooting with Federal 168 Sierras Match Kings on my aac-sd. I have to say that I always got great results with them. </div></div>

I didn't say you didn't get good or great results. But the further out you push distance, the 155s and 175 match sierra just outright out perform the 168s. BCs and data just don't lie