Rifle Scopes Aimpoint, EoTech, or Acog

[HelenKellerTactical]

What have you used, what do you like, and what do you hate. Ready to spend the money, just want to buy the right one. Any advice is appreciated!

 

[GeneralPurpose]

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That's impossible to answer without knowing what your rifle is and what your needs are.

So I'd go with a T1.

 

[HelenKellerTactical]

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Quick target acquisition, lightweight, and durable. Pof 415

 

[GeneralPurpose]

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Then I'd definitely go with a 2 MOA Aimpoint T1. I recently made the switch from an Eotech 512 to that, and couldn't be happier.

If you plan on some distance, the ACOG might be a better option. My T1 is on a 10.5" AR-15.

 

[HelenKellerTactical]

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Okay great. Had a buddy that said the same thing more/less! Thanks!!

 

[CSTactical]

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Aimpoint or EoTech for speed. The EoTech is a little faster on target just a little. The battery life is a lot better on the Aimpoints.

If we can be of help feel free to let me know we stock a lot of EoTechs, Aimpoints, and Trijicons.


Mike @ CST

 

[PRDRIVER]

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I run EoTechs on my rifles. I really like the circle/dot reticle and larger sight window on the EoTech.

 

[rez187]

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we use aimpoints at my department. we looked into eotech and acog and came to these decisions

aimpoint battery life and co wittness of irons were better than eotech. the battery life is so long we turn them on at start of our duty week and dont turn off till we go home.

eotech has a slightly quicker acquisition for most but suffers from when compared to the aimpoint poor battery life.

acog is a good sight for longer ranges and ok for short. the acog is an attempt to merge long and short "red dot" ranges due to most of our types of use long range is simply not a real option as their is a lawyer attached to every bullet.

having said this it is up to the individual to decide what works best for him and what his likes are

 

[Opticsspecialist]

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aimpoint micro, run it with both eyes open and it's fast, years of battery life, and they are very robust

 

[HelenKellerTactical]

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battery llife is actually a big deal for me. That is why im leaning Aimpoint or Trijicon. Have and ACOG on my SCAR now but its big, and bulky, and heavy. It has the Docter back-up and iron sights. Dont get me wrong, its amazing, but for CQC its a little oversized. I have looked at the aimpoint micro, and the sight apeture seemed small, and hard to aquire, but i was just holding it. Wasnt mounted. Anyone had any experience with trijicon reflex?

 

[HelenKellerTactical]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CSTACTICAL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Aimpoint or EoTech for speed. The EoTech is a little faster on target just a little. The battery life is a lot better on the Aimpoints.

If we can be of help feel free to let me know we stock a lot of EoTechs, Aimpoints, and Trijicons.


Mike @ CST
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PM me on the price for an Aimpoint micro, and trijicon reflex. Thanks!

 

[Hawk45]

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This discussion is all around what "you" plan to use the optic. I like a red dot for inside 200yds, which is usually all I stretch my AR out to. If I wanted more precision, I would use a precision rifle with a higher power optic. I've not owned an ACOG (but would like to try the right one). The dot is just great for everything from 10ft to 200yds for me on 8x8 targets. Again, not a precision rig but you can be precise with it if you practice. I have a few 1-4x and they are nice for 100-400, but not very good for anything up close (CQB style). The eye box is not very forgiving for close up. Magnification isn't always the best route, and in my opinion is highly over used to compensate for lack of technique. Just my .02

 

[HelenKellerTactical]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hawk45</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This discussion is all around what "you" plan to use the optic. I like a red dot for inside 200yds, which is usually all I stretch my AR out to. If I wanted more precision, I would use a precision rifle with a higher power optic. I've not owned an ACOG (but would like to try the right one). The dot is just great for everything from 10ft to 200yds for me on 8x8 targets. Again, not a precision rig but you can be precise with it if you practice. I have a few 1-4x and they are nice for 100-400, but not very good for anything up close (CQB style). The eye box is not very forgiving for close up. Magnification isn't always the best route, and in my opinion is highly over used to compensate for lack of technique. Just my .02 </div></div>

Thats is exactly how i feel about my SCAR with the cog on it. Thats why im looking for a lightweight, quick aquisition, durable sight. Think im leaning towards the Aimpoint T1 right now

 

[HelenKellerTactical]

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Anyone ever use the Burris reflex, or sight mark? Cheaper options, so i dont know how they stack up, and what the quality is. Since iver heard it, i live by the philosophy or buy once, cry once, so i dont know if these make sense or not. Let me know if you've ever had any experience with these. thanks!

 

[KTDLS7]

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If your life depends on the sight illuminating when you push the button and battery life is a factor, get an Aimpoint and dodge the Eotech. I have one Eotech, and regretted the purchase three months later due to battery issues. I now use it on a "toy" gun and remove the batteries after every use.

Aimpoint is on everything else and they stay "on".

Kevin

 

[HelenKellerTactical]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ktdls7</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If your life depends on the sight illuminating when you push the button and battery life is a factor, get an Aimpoint and dodge the Eotech. I have one Eotech, and regretted the purchase three months later due to battery issues. I now use it on a "toy" gun and remove the batteries after every use.

Aimpoint is on everything else and they stay "on".

Kevin </div></div>

Made up my mind. I'm going Aimpoint!!

 

[compton187]

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Thats a good choice and might I add if you can get your hands on a M68/CCO thats a good optic too i've used one for over 8 years now in the Army their great for close quarter's and i've shot out to 400m with this thing on a M4 and the battery life is great too

 

[LongArm]

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get the aimpoint, you'll be glad you did.

 

[HelenKellerTactical]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: comptonghost</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thats a good choice and might I add if you can get your hands on a M68/CCO thats a good optic too i've used one for over 8 years now in the Army their great for close quarter's and i've shot out to 400m with this thing on a M4 and the battery life is great too </div></div>

ill look into it. thanks!

 

[VJJPunisher]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: comptonghost</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thats a good choice and might I add if you can get your hands on a M68/CCO thats a good optic too i've used one for over 8 years now in the Army their great for close quarter's and i've shot out to 400m with this thing on a M4 and the battery life is great too</div></div>

i agree with this, but im biased towards the M68, or Comp M2, M3, or M4 since thats what I know. But used ones can be found fer damn good prices and their a great sight

 

[HelenKellerTactical]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VJJPunisher</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: comptonghost</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thats a good choice and might I add if you can get your hands on a M68/CCO thats a good optic too i've used one for over 8 years now in the Army their great for close quarter's and i've shot out to 400m with this thing on a M4 and the battery life is great too</div></div>

i agree with this, but im biased towards the M68, or Comp M2, M3, or M4 since thats what I know. But used ones can be found fer damn good prices and their a great sight </div></div>

I've pretty much rules out anything but an aimpoint, at this point. Making the call from there is where im at now

 

[decider]

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Eotech - Zombie Killer

 

[Redmanss]

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I have a Comp ML3 on my work rifle and a T-1 (thanks to Jay) at home. Love the Comp M4/M4S (aka M68) too, but that one isn't in the inventory for us or I'd use it instead. The ML3 is an outstanding optic and has served me faithfully for the last 4+ years.

I prefer the T-1 as I'm trying to stay lightweight and compact for my carbine at home, and the larger versions for work purposes where conditions are less than ideal for consistent cheek weld all the time, not as easy with the T-1. That being said I probably just need some more practice with the T-1; it's still new to me but this was an initial observation I made.

Any of them you can beat like a red-headed step child and they take it like a champ. I change my battery every 6-9 months and it rides on near max setting all the time. It only gets turned off when I'm on vacation every six months, and my battery changes are more out of precaution than necessity.

Good luck with your purchase.

 

[supermoto917]

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I have had the chance in using the items you have listed up top. the Eotech is a little faster but ended up with a T1 and with some drills you can get pretty much close to the eOtech. on my other AR I went with an ACOG with the RMR. it's a little trippy at first since you don't have a cheek weld but a chin weld haha. I kid you not but it's works and again you have to do drills to get used to what you end up with. See I was like you at one point so I just kinda got them all. Sorry couldn't narrow it to one item. Oh yeah I built my brother an AR and topped it with an Aimpoint Pro and he's happy with it. Good luck.

 

[Awesymoto]

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Having used the EOtech and ACOG at work, I would suggest an ACOG. With training you can easily become proficient with the ACOG, at the 10 yard line. Now if you running some competition 3 gun, Run the EOtech or Aimpoint... Just my cent.

 

[truth]

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Trijicon's new SRS should be arriving at dealers in the next 10 days, I'd give that a serious look as well.

 

[D3]

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+1 EOTech

 

[SMS Burly]

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Aimpoint all the way for me. The crazy battery life and durability sold me on them. I dont need a larger circle for CQB stuff, the dot in the middle will do just fine for that application.

 

[truth]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SMS Burly</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Aimpoint all the way for me. The crazy battery life and durability sold me on them. I dont need a larger circle for CQB stuff, the dot in the middle will do just fine for that application.</div></div>

Yeah, but this isn't about you or what you already own, it's about the OP and what is available for someone that's in the market now. Thanks for offering up your myopic ignorant point of view though, the world is clearly a better place for it.

 

[vmpglenn]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: truth</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Yeah, but this isn't about you or what you already own, it's about the OP and what is available for someone that's in the market now. Thanks for offering up your myopic ignorant point of view though, the world is clearly a better place for it. </div></div>

The OP asked for opinions. SMS Burly gave a legitimate one.

Lighten up.

 

[HelenKellerTactical]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: truth</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Trijicon's new SRS should be arriving at dealers in the next 10 days, I'd give that a serious look as well. </div></div>

I'll
Have to look this one up. Any idea on a pricepoint?

 

[truth]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SCAR123</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: truth</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Trijicon's new SRS should be arriving at dealers in the next 10 days, I'd give that a serious look as well. </div></div>

I'll
Have to look this one up. Any idea on a pricepoint?</div></div>

http://www.opticsplanet.net/trijicon-1x38-sealed-reflex-sight-srs.html

http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/2011/10/10/trijicon-srs-the-evolution-of-the-red-dot/

 

[KnightOfNee]

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Eotech =fastest
Aimpoint =Long battery life
Acog= way overpriced bleh, many better options if you plan on using magnification,

+Eotech and Aimpoint dont have that cheap Fiber line that breaks, like the Acog.

 

[thehjot]

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I don't know where this would rank on your list of priorities, SCAR 123, but I wonder how each optic would perform in low-light/dark scenarios?
The concern being that ACOG says it's illuminated by tritium, whereas the other two are lit up by batteries. Do you guys with experience notice a big improvement of one over the other?
From my experience with tritium night sights, I would imagine the battery-lit options would fare much better. Is that an accurate assumption, or am I just taking shots in dark (pun intended)?

 

[NateD33]

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I have used all these options in the past and ended up sticking with an Aimpoint micro T1 with LaRue Tactical tall mount and an Aimpoint 3x magnifier with LaRue Tactical pivot mount (you can't run the pivot mount unless you run the tall mount on the Aimpoint, the only drawback is you can't co witness this set up with iron sights but both mounts are quick detach). You can't beat the battery life and gives you good options with the pivot mount. I hit out to 300 yards standing and further out in the prone with that 4 MOA dot. I like the Eotech and used one for a long time with no complaints other than longer range targets kinda get lost with that 60 something MOA ring around the dot. Eotech also offers a magnifier but LaRue doesn't make mounts for them. Once I got accustomed to the Aimpoint I was just as fast with it as I was with the Eotech and decided to go Aimpoint. I personally don't care for the RCO. Hope that helps and good luck.

 

[SMS Burly]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: truth</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SMS Burly</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Aimpoint all the way for me. The crazy battery life and durability sold me on them. I dont need a larger circle for CQB stuff, the dot in the middle will do just fine for that application.</div></div>

Yeah, but this isn't about you or what you already own, it's about the OP and what is available for someone that's in the market now. Thanks for offering up your myopic ignorant point of view though, the world is clearly a better place for it.</div></div>

If you were to re read the first post, it is in fact about what i already own "What have YOU used, what do YOU like, and what do YOU hate".

I give my $0.02 to the OP like he wanted.

Back on topic. You can find an Aimpoint PRO at various sites for $400 with a pretty rock solid mount. the PRO is not as battery efficient as a CompM4, but it will still last multiple years (3 if i remember correctly) off the same battery and its submersible up to 150 feet

 

[HelenKellerTactical]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: thehjot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't know where this would rank on your list of priorities, SCAR 123, but I wonder how each optic would perform in low-light/dark scenarios?
The concern being that ACOG says it's illuminated by tritium, whereas the other two are lit up by batteries. Do you guys with experience notice a big improvement of one over the other?
From my experience with tritium night sights, I would imagine the battery-lit options would fare much better. Is that an accurate assumption, or am I just taking shots in dark (pun intended)? </div></div>

Great point. I have an ACOG on one of my SCARS, and ready to go just in case. Of course that implies i have all my guns with me so, maybe a mute point. I have thought of that actually.Good point!

 

[thehjot]

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I just feel like the ACOG would be the equivalent of taking a tritium sight off your pistol, sticking it in a dark tube, and trying to target with it. It seems like that tritium would disappear on the target, and/or it wouldn't stand out against the illumination from a weapon mounted light or other source.
Again, this is not from experience, it's just what's kept me from making a decision so far and I'm glad you're thinking the same.
Hopefully, somebody with much experience will fill us in...

 

[thehjot]

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Anybody?

 

[jps24]

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My experience with both the Aimpoint Comp M4 and EOTech 556 on both my military carbine and civilian AR15:

I lean more towards the EOTech for a few reasons. To me, it offers a little wider a field of view. Most all of the Aimpoint models are inside a tube-like structure. For whatever reason, it feels that my vision narrows and I get some sort of tube-vision with them, like looking down a magnified scope. However with the EOTech, since it is basically a flat screen, I dont have the 'tube-vision' problem. I guess arguing battery life can be relevant to some, but I dont mind spending the small amount of cash to change batteries once a year to be sure. I guess I got hooked on EOTechs as I did training with Army Special Forces teams, and all the guys I shot with used EOTechs. Also shot with some ACOGs with them, which I could see with enough practice wouldnt be that much of a problem in close range.

 

[Inzaneriderz]

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From a guy that has all three right now on rifles.... for CQB the ACOG is out, some guys say they have success shooting with both eyes open, using it like a red dot but I find it hard to be as quick compared to my Comp M4 or EXPS3-0. As far as speed, I prefer the EXPS3-0 battery life is good and I don't think as much of an issue as many people make it out to be, but it is nice to not have to worry about battery life and the aimpoint is robust. I also have a ITT Gen 3 pvs14 and the EO Tech kills the Aimpoint in NV abilities hands down. I don't think you will be disappointed with either

 

[BOL556]

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I run nothing but eotech's and 1-4's. Use the eotechs for all short range with in 100 yards or so and 1-4 for anything further out. Could use the 1-4 for close range too but like the eotech. Also, my 552 was bought back in 2005 before I went to Iraq. Survived Iraq and was place on my own rifle. The top glass fell down and called eotech CS and they replaced it long after the warranty was up. This is why I run them and Vortex cause if anything should happen I know the company will stand behind their products unlike a lot of the manufactures today.

 

[HelenKellerTactical]

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Thread update: Bought a bunch of each, and put them through the pases. I'm an Aimpoint guy now. Can't beat the durability, reliability (maintaining zero), and battery life. Thank you to everyone who added their 2 cents to this thread, and informed myself, as well im sure many others!

 

[bm11]

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T1 micro for size, weight, speed and battery life. I have two and am going to be buying a third soon.

 

[Shoots 700's]

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I have all three and use them on different guns for different applications.

I have a 4x ACOG on an 18" 556 and it is great with the stadia lines. Hits out to 500 as long as I do my part

Aimpoint Comp3 on a 16" gun, lightweight, fast and durable

EOtech I took off a 16" gun and put on a 10/22. Eats battery's and I had a hard time keeping the springs in when changing battery's.