AK47 Trigger Slap

[Point of Impact]

I have a Mak-90 and I am having a terrible time with the trigger slap on it. I have never been a huge fan of the AK in performance when it comes to accuracy, but they are great guns to have in the truck on the farm for whatever pesky creature might show up. I was out plinking some targets at my range the other day and after about 20 rounds my finger was so sore I had to switch to my middle finger to pull.

I put on gloves for the following magazine but I was wondering if you guys had suggestions for eliminate the trigger slap on it.

 

[Mo_Zam_Beek]

Re: AK47 Trigger Slap

TAPCO G2 trigger

 

[VJJPunisher]

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throw mak 90 in river, problem solved

 

[AvsFan]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Point of Impact</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have a Mak-90 and I am having a terrible time with the trigger slap on it. I have never been a huge fan of the AK in performance when it comes to accuracy, but they are great guns to have in the truck on the farm for whatever pesky creature might show up. I was out plinking some targets at my range the other day and after about 20 rounds my finger was so sore I had to switch to my middle finger to pull.

I put on gloves for the following magazine but I was wondering if you guys had suggestions for eliminate the trigger slap on it. </div></div>

Very common problem w/AK's. The best remedy is a Tapco G2 Trigger. I believe you need a double hook (check the receiver under the trigger guard) - there should be 2 slots where your existing trigger pivots when you depress it.

If there's only 1 slot, then you'll need the single hook trigger. I also advise to scrap the shepard's hook and replace it with a retaining plate. You'll save yourself a lot of frustration attempting to reinstall the shepard's hook.

Double Hook Trigger

Single Hook Trigger

Trigger & Hammer Pin Retaining Plate

Cheers,

AvsFan

 

[kortik]

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You obviously got some kind of parts in your MAK trigger group which were not designed by M. Kalashnikov. Get rid of these and replace them with correct AK parts. AK as originally designed and built to specs does not have any trigger slap as a matter of principle.

 

[kortik]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AvsFan</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Point of Impact</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have a Mak-90 and I am having a terrible time with the trigger slap on it. I have never been a huge fan of the AK in performance when it comes to accuracy, but they are great guns to have in the truck on the farm for whatever pesky creature might show up. I was out plinking some targets at my range the other day and after about 20 rounds my finger was so sore I had to switch to my middle finger to pull.

I put on gloves for the following magazine but I was wondering if you guys had suggestions for eliminate the trigger slap on it. </div></div>

Very common problem w/AK's. The best remedy is a Tapco G2 Trigger. I believe you need a double hook (check the receiver under the trigger guard) - there should be 2 slots where your existing trigger pivots when you depress it.

If there's only 1 slot, then you'll need the single hook trigger. I also advise to scrap the shepard's hook and replace it with a retaining plate. You'll save yourself a lot of frustration attempting to reinstall the shepard's hook.

Double Hook Trigger

Single Hook Trigger

Trigger & Hammer Pin Retaining Plate

Cheers,

AvsFan

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This problem is not common, and in fact, does not exist in real AKs, manufactured in approprietly equipped factories in Russia, China, etc. This problem is caused by crap parts made somewhere w/o proper knowledge and technology.

 

[Silver_Bullet_00]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Point of Impact</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have a Mak-90 and I am having a terrible time with the trigger slap on it. I have never been a huge fan of the AK in performance when it comes to accuracy, but they are great guns to have in the truck on the farm for whatever pesky creature might show up. I was out plinking some targets at my range the other day and after about 20 rounds my finger was so sore I had to switch to my middle finger to pull.

I put on gloves for the following magazine but I was wondering if you guys had suggestions for eliminate the trigger slap on it. </div></div>

The Chi-Com Mak-90 trigger is the best AK trigger out there (really!!!). It's smooth! You must have an after-market, or a defect. If you get a tapco-g2 make sure to switch 3 more US made parts to be 922 compliant, if you rifle is stock configuration with the thumb hole stock. Stock and hand guards are 3 parts.

 

[Silver_Bullet_00]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VJJPunisher</div><div class="ubbcode-body">throw mak 90 in river, problem solved </div></div>

Then let me know where, so I can go drag it out of the mud and shoot it.

 

[Heronion]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Silver_Bullet_00</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VJJPunisher</div><div class="ubbcode-body">throw mak 90 in river, problem solved </div></div>

Then let me know where, so I can go drag it out of the mud and shoot it. </div></div>

Careful. AR-15 fanatics become ill at the mention of "mud" and "shoot" in the same sentence.

But yes, as mentioned, it's probably a defect, and the remedy is a Tapco G2. My Romanian has a nicer trigger than several AR-15s I have used.

 

[Point of Impact]

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Haha VJJ I like your response; that's about how I feel about AKs after AR-15s but I still like this for my truck gun. I got it really cheap from a guy in my area who need money quick so I am glad I didn't get too screwed over by a defect or a bad after-market trigger.

I'll have to try out one of those G2 triggers and see if that solves the issue.

 

[command450]

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standard -original AK trigger groups will have trigger slap. its caused by the disconnector. you can cut off the tail to eliminate it. replacement tapco FCG,will have a modified disconnector, that eliminates teh trigger slap.

 

[Silver_Bullet_00]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: command450</div><div class="ubbcode-body">standard -original AK trigger groups will have trigger slap. its caused by the disconnector. you can cut off the tail to eliminate it. replacement tapco FCG,will have a modified disconnector, that eliminates teh trigger slap. </div></div>

That's correct for WASR's Yugo's and other part assembled guns put together in America. That's not correct for Norinco AK's (Type 56 or Mak-90), the Norinco usually does not have this problem, unless an American after market Trigger has been put in it. The Chinesse Ak's are some of the best, and the trigger is the best of any AK out there.

 

[Bedlam]

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I had a Mak-90. Using the thumbhole stock was kind of like holding a cheap 2x4, except it was less comfortable and used lower quality wood.

As long as you are replacing the FCG with US-made parts you might as well go a little further and convert it to original pistol grip configuration, if it is legal to do so where you live. Just make sure you are 922R compliant.

 

[Silver_Bullet_00]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bedlam</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I had a Mak-90. Using the thumbhole stock was kind of like holding a cheap 2x4, except it was less comfortable and used lower quality wood.

As long as you are replacing the FCG with US-made parts you might as well go a little further and convert it to original pistol grip configuration, if it is legal to do so where you live. Just make sure you are 922R compliant. </div></div>

I converted mine, but I hated to change the original trigger out with the tapco to be 922 compliant. The Tapco G2 is OK, but the Norinco trigger was nicer.

 

[VYD]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Silver_Bullet_00</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Chinesse Ak's are some of the best... </div></div>

Forgive my ignorance but the best AKs are Finnish, Soviet, and Israeli Galils...Arsenal-built ones is the closest you will get to a Soviet mil-spec Kalashnikov.

 

[kortik]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VYD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Silver_Bullet_00</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Chinesse Ak's are some of the best... </div></div>

Forgive my ignorance but the best AKs are Finnish, Soviet, and Israeli Galils...Arsenal-built ones is the closest you will get to a Soviet mil-spec Kalashnikov. </div></div>

I agree 100%. The tragedy, if it is an appropriate word for this situation, is that the vast majority of American AK buyers never had a chance to lay their hands on military AKs built in the countries mentioned above. Not s big surprise that Chinese AKs look good in comparison with lots of crap sold here as AKs, and I got to admit that Chinese AKs do work good, cause Chinese were good at accurate copying of the originals.

 

[Wolvenhaven]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AvsFan</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Point of Impact</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have a Mak-90 and I am having a terrible time with the trigger slap on it. I have never been a huge fan of the AK in performance when it comes to accuracy, but they are great guns to have in the truck on the farm for whatever pesky creature might show up. I was out plinking some targets at my range the other day and after about 20 rounds my finger was so sore I had to switch to my middle finger to pull.

I put on gloves for the following magazine but I was wondering if you guys had suggestions for eliminate the trigger slap on it. </div></div>

Very common problem w/AK's. The best remedy is a Tapco G2 Trigger. I believe you need a double hook (check the receiver under the trigger guard) - there should be 2 slots where your existing trigger pivots when you depress it.

If there's only 1 slot, then you'll need the single hook trigger. I also advise to scrap the shepard's hook and replace it with a retaining plate. You'll save yourself a lot of frustration attempting to reinstall the shepard's hook.

Double Hook Trigger

Single Hook Trigger

Trigger & Hammer Pin Retaining Plate

Cheers,

AvsFan

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You can take a double hook trigger and grind down the second hook on the bottom of it where it would hit the receiver if you have a single hook receiver. This will prevent overtravel on the trigger as well as allowing you to use double hook triggers. Just gently shave off fractions of an inch on it until you can pull the trigger and have the hammer drop.

 

[Silver_Bullet_00]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VYD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Silver_Bullet_00</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Chinesse Ak's are some of the best... </div></div>

Forgive my ignorance but the best AKs are Finnish, Soviet, and Israeli Galils...Arsenal-built ones is the closest you will get to a Soviet mil-spec Kalashnikov. </div></div>

Well let me rephrase to say some of the best AK Clones you can get in America, as we cant have real AK47's Finnish, Soviet and Galils.

A real Type 56 Chinese AK is by far the most popular real AK 47 worldwide. Actually it is preferred by our enemies. It is the most common run into on the battle field, Russians are the second most common run into. The receivers on the Chinese are 1.5mm vs 1mm. The barrels are also thicker on the Chinese. The Civilian version of the type 56 and the Mak-90 are the same as the Select fire military Type 56 minus full auto components. I know everyone likes to knock Chinese made stuff, as most of their junk is terrible, but they know how to make an AK. The stocks and finish might not be as pretty as others, but these Chinese made AK's work, and are among the most accurate I have shot. If one wants to argue that an AK is not accurate enough, go stand down range 300 yards, as it is Minute of man at 300. My Mak-90 shoots 2 moa at 100 yards with silver bear ammo. I have gotten a few 1moa, but that's probably luck. Wolf gets about 2.5 average That's not bad, and I contribute it to the heavy barrel and receiver vs the pencil barrels on others, as it helps the barrel harmonics.

I agree the Arsenal SGL-21 is a nice AK clone, but the Norinco and the VEPR (which is also a Russian made) are made better.

 

[Bedlam]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Silver_Bullet_00</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I converted mine, but I hated to change the original trigger out with the tapco to be 922 compliant. The Tapco G2 is OK, but the Norinco trigger was nicer.</div></div>
The Red Star Arms adjustable trigger is US-made and quite nice. It is very smooth and it is adjustable for both overtravel and excessive takeup.

The only caveat is that you definitely have to use locktite once you've dialed in the trigger, as instructed to in the manual. If you don't use a threadlocker, the set screws move all over the place. Ask me how I know.

 

[Silver_Bullet_00]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bedlam</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Silver_Bullet_00</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I converted mine, but I hated to change the original trigger out with the tapco to be 922 compliant. The Tapco G2 is OK, but the Norinco trigger was nicer.</div></div>
The Red Star Arms adjustable trigger is US-made and quite nice. It is very smooth and it is adjustable for both overtravel and excessive takeup.

The only caveat is that you definitely have to use locktite once you've dialed in the trigger, as instructed to in the manual. If you don't use a threadlocker, the set screws move all over the place. Ask me how I know.

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I might have to give it a try.

 

[tomcat mv]

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All I can add, is that I have two almost identical WASR10's and one came with the Tapco trigger and it was good to go. Subsequently changed out the other one and it too was good. Both still "slap" a little but I usually wear gloves, so no big deal.

 

[longebow]

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Another option is have the folks at Kreb's Custom rework your trigger for you. They do excellent work, and can modify the AK trigger to a "two stage."

http://www.krebscustom.com/