Am I the only one that doesn't get the Fix Q?

I know this thread is old but I fondled a Q Fix 300 black in a local gun shop today and worked the action . The action is so slick, the bolt moves like butter sliding on a hot skillet. I'd buy it for 1/2 price, but not $3300 + tax. The trigger was nice too. Shaved and slim bolt handle, the overall finish was perfect. It damned sure IS NOT a warmed over Ruger or Remington or Savage action. I guess if you have more money than you know what to do with, its a no brainer.
 
This is simply trying to tweak a current product for a new market share. It's no different than how shooting competition rules are adjusted over time and new classes are added to sell guns, or allow lots of aftermarket sales of parts/accessories to be used in "production" or "factory" classes.

It's simply trying to get a modular chassis rifle into the hunting market share or anyone that wants lightweight. There's plenty of 6-7lb accurate hunting bolt rifle options, but none of them look like an AR/PRS chassis rifle.
 
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Her is my somewhat satirical post on my "affair" with the Fix Friday on another forum. And a link to a good write up of KB's brainchild/execution. Machined AL chassis, that cut down super slim 45* action bolt (that someone earlier complained about in this thread, lol), quick change barrel, 6 lbs, and can be legally purchased even in CA today. But KB def has a lot of haters out there in the firearms/F4 silencer community.

"Man, let me tell you I fondled a Q "the fix" Friday @ a local gun shop. It was love @ first sight. The 45 degree action moves/glides like melting butter, that cut down, trim and svelte bolt lever. The overall bronze color finish is perfect, and the trigger was nice as is. But $3300 + tax......I liked to puked. I might give em $1700 for it, but not a penny more. KB is brilliant, engineered/executed a super sweet BA shorty host that can be purchased legally even in CA, and many have more cash than they know what to do with and will not bat an eye @ $3600 out the door. Another $1500 for a Q can. Dat isn't me for sure.
But for 3 or 4 minutes we were in love..........then she left me for another guy
:(
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exactly. Love the fix. Great rifle. Just over priced. I loved that trigger. Loved that bolt throw and the action was smooth. I will admit mine had feeding issues that stemmed from the mag well being a bit loose and I needed adhesive Velcro to shim the mag and then it was still only 8/10.

That said, for 1500-2500 I’d buy one. But not more than that. If I were to get another one it would wear a 16 inch proof carbon 6mm creedmoor barrel. That would be perfect.
 
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I don't know why people bash the gun. We should be happy to see innovation, and options. The Fix is a huge improvement on the Scout Rifle concept - it knocks it out of the park with weight, overall size, mag options. Doesn't mean it is for everyone, or even most folks. Q isn't the biggest company, I don't think they need to sell this to every shooter to be successful. The ergos are a pretty big departure from most rifles, but that is what it takes to get to that kind of overall weight and size without a pencil barrel. I'm a fan of Sig's cheapo version myself, because I don't have Q cash. I wish more companies were designing rifles from a blank state instead of starting with a Rem700 footprint.
 
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Agreed epeet. I am a mod on an form1 forum and there is a lot of hate for Kevin Brittingham, the owner of Q. Many think he's an arrogant shit, but I have no problem with him myself. He has brought a few very successful and high performing devices to our world imo.
 
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I don't know why people bash the gun. We should be happy to see innovation, and options. The Fix is a huge improvement on the Scout Rifle concept - it knocks it out of the park with weight, overall size, mag options. Doesn't mean it is for everyone, or even most folks. Q isn't the biggest company, I don't think they need to sell this to every shooter to be successful. The ergos are a pretty big departure from most rifles, but that is what it takes to get to that kind of overall weight and size without a pencil barrel. I'm a fan of Sig's cheapo version myself, because I don't have Q cash. I wish more companies were designing rifles from a blank state instead of starting with a Rem700 footprint.

I thought they bashed it because a pile of them don't feed properly, or have ignition problems, and Kevin still runs around talking down to every other manufacturer in the industry.

Fucking velcro to fix a $3k USD rifle is bonkers to me.
 
I wonder why they don't just give out a serial number range. I have a pre-order one and went through all the steps to find out I'm not in it.
An update on The Fix previously unmentioned is the bolt recall on what could be earlier serial #s that may have come out back when this thread started. Check the Q website for details.
 
It’s a lightweight, adjustable, modular chassis style hunting rifle built up from scratch. It was made for utility and hunting in mind.

Use it for what it was intended and you will understand it.

I feel everyone bitches about it for a few reasons.

1. Kevin…you either love him or hate him, no in between.

2. Trying to shoehorn the gun into something it was not designed for…it’s never going to be a 14lb prs gun.

3. Some people have complained about customer service, I have yet to encounter that issue at all, the last time I wrote with a question I ended up going back and forth with one of the ladies, and she was sweet as pie.

4. Lack of parts support…I was able to order every accessory I wanted for my fix on the day I bought it from various online vendors..so I don’t understand that.

5. Caliber conversions take time…yes they do, they have been working on the 6 arc for a while now, my understanding is that they discovered a flaw in just providing a just new bolt and barrel for the cartridge at this time and are going to release full rifles in the caliber, before a conversion, that is unfortunate as those of us who have mini fix’s were hoping for a quick swap. That said I would rather not have it, than have one that fails on me when pulling up on a white tail.

Take all this for what you will, I love my mini fix..it feels like a toy, and is accurate as hell with 69 gr match. So I have no complaints, and it is exactly what I expected it to be.
 
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Not really a reply so much as adding my comments to this.

It’s a lightweight, adjustable, modular chassis style hunting rifle built up from scratch. It was made for utility and hunting in mind.

Use it for what it was intended and you will understand it.
This is what I find most people don't understand. it's not a PRS rifle.

I feel everyone bitches about it for a few reasons.

1. Kevin…you either love him or hate him, no in between.
As seen in The Fix thread. I was able to talk him into letting us send in barrels to have the extension installed.

3. Some people have complained about customer service, I have yet to encounter that issue at all, the last time I wrote with a question I ended up going back and forth with one of the ladies, and she was sweet as pie.
I only ever had 1 issue with and that was during the pre-order, I ordered the 308 and called to have a 6.5 barrel added. I was told they would call me and add it at it before shipping and I would pay for it then, still waiting on that call.

4. Lack of parts support…I was able to order every accessory I wanted for my fix on the day I bought it from various online vendors..so I don’t understand that.
Shooting Surplus is your best bet with the best prices, have also used Bauer Precision when I can't find it at Shooting Surplus.

5. Caliber conversions take time…yes they do, they have been working on the 6 arc for a while now, my understanding is that they discovered a flaw in just providing a just new bolt and barrel for the cartridge at this time and are going to release full rifles in the caliber, before a conversion, that is unfortunate as those of us who have mini fix’s were hoping for a quick swap. That said I would rather not have it, than have one that fails on me when pulling up on a white tail.
Us full size Fix guys re Are still waiting WSM that was stated from the beginning, I'm sure that was quickly thrown out and now we have 8.6 which might be a better option, for hand loaders currently.

Take all this for what you will, I love my mini fix..it feels like a toy, and is accurate as hell with 69 gr match. So I have no complaints, and it is exactly what I expected it to be.
My complaints about the rifle are few and not worth airing out. This rifle has performed very well for me, not giving it up ever. Because of The Fix I will no longer buy another rifle that is not switch barrel.
 
I don't really understand why people are saying that the SIG is a rip off version of it.

Sig's rifle has a more traditional bolt system. The Q Fix is a rip off of the Mauser 66 design.
That's kind of an insult to the 66, its true it shares the "barrel extension and not receiver is the pressure bearing component" but so do many other modern rifles. The other things that made the 66 revolutionary for it's day was really the barrel change mechanism (2 hex screws, no need for bedding, and if consistent torque is used a return to zero within 0.2mil) and the telescoping bolt. I don't think the 66 has ever really had a true successor, which is why I went out of my way to buy one.

the thing that makes the Q Fix/Mini Fix, Sig Cross, Tikka Tac A1, Ruger RPR, etc interesting is the ability for them to tap into the absolutely massive aftermarket for AR parts that has sprung into existence in the last decade and a half.
 
I own both. The Fix is very nicely constructed, and a joy to carry. If you close your eyes and run the gun, it has the elegance and poise of a stapler.

The Cross is a far, far, nicer gun from a shooter’s perspective, and almost as nice to carry.

Recent samples of either are deficient in barrel quality. I couldn’t reach Tooley to save my life, but Craddock Precision was very happy to spin up a 400MODBB tube for my Cross. Really excellent package now.
 
I own both. The Fix is very nicely constructed, and a joy to carry. If you close your eyes and run the gun, it has the elegance and poise of a stapler.

The Cross is a far, far, nicer gun from a shooter’s perspective, and almost as nice to carry.

Recent samples of either are deficient in barrel quality. I couldn’t reach Tooley to save my life, but Craddock Precision was very happy to spin up a 400MODBB tube for my Cross. Really excellent package now.

I think it's better than stapler. My only experience with The Cross is in a gun store, the handguard could bent to the barrel and the hinge for the butt stock was loose and clunky. I put it back on the shelf and walked away. I was thinking about getting one to compare them but no.

I had Tooley do me up 16" Bartlein 6CM barrel with the same profile as the original 308 barrel. It took almost a year, he was hard to get ahold of and the barrel came to me at 20". Because of the light profile I can't have it shortened to 16" like I originally wanted. He ended up charging for the blank and not the machine time.
 
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I'm not a fan of the Fix, but I am a fan of the 8.6blk.
I rebarreled my Rem 700 to a 16" 8.6blk and am loving that rifle.
Yes, it weighs more than the Fix, but it cost a hell of a lot less, shoots sub moa, and just feels better in my hands.
Reloading for it is a bit of a challenge, but lots of fun.
 
I think it's better than stapler. My only experience with The Cross is in a gun store, the handguard could bent to the barrel and the hinge for the butt stock was loose and clunky. I put it back on the shelf and walked away. I was thinking about getting one to compare them but no.

I had Tooley do me up 16" Bartlein 6CM barrel with the same profile as the original 308 barrel. It took almost a year, he was hard to get ahold of and the barrel came to me at 20". Because of the light profile I can't have it shortened to 16" like I originally wanted. He ended up charging for the blank and not the machine time.
“Better than a stapler” is probably a fair characterization.

As for the Cross - in my view, the handguard bending is fine, so long as it doesn’t contact the barrel. Don’t mount optics or lasers to it. I hear the newer ARCA-integrated rail is an upgrade.

I’m happy with my hinge and think it’s the finest sample of a folder I’ve encountered. Maybe try some others.

Sounds like we had very similar experiences with Tooley communication. I think one of my messages was something like “hi sir, I’d like to give you some money, please call me back”.
 
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I'm not a fan of the Fix, but I am a fan of the 8.6blk.
I rebarreled my Rem 700 to a 16" 8.6blk and am loving that rifle.
Yes, it weighs more than the Fix, but it cost a hell of a lot less, shoots sub moa, and just feels better in my hands.
Reloading for it is a bit of a challenge, but lots of fun.

What part of the reloading is challenging? I'm looking at going to 8.6 and probably getting a short chop for hunting.
 
“Better than a stapler” is probably a fair characterization.

As for the Cross - in my view, the handguard bending is fine, so long as it doesn’t contact the barrel. Don’t mount optics or lasers to it. I hear the newer ARCA-integrated rail is an upgrade.

I’m happy with my hinge and think it’s the finest sample of a folder I’ve encountered. Maybe try some others.

Sounds like we had very similar experiences with Tooley communication. I think one of my messages was something like “hi sir, I’d like to give you some money, please call me back”.

The handguard flexing isn't too good for loading a bipod but if the Arca rail is stiffer then that would good part to get for it.

I think the hinge on the fix has better lockup, but my sample size was one. It might have been a Monday morning or Friday afternoon rifle. I'll try to get a bigger sample size.

If they fixed these two problem then it would be great option at half the price. Also, the action being more traditional probably would make people more comfortable with going to the cross over the fix.
 
To accurate okie.....
Components are expensive. There are only a few companies making ammo right now.
Initially, starting out loading only solid copper bullets for supers and subs.
Converting 6.5 creedmoor brass (Hornady works best) is a bit of trial and error, but once you have it figured out, it's a breeze.
Other than that, it's pretty much the same as any other cartridge except it's NOT SAAMI speced yet so mo "official" numbers to go by.
Start low on loads and work up. Loads you might think are OK will be bad jiu jiu in some guns.
I loaded 32gr 1680 for 225gr CX bullet and it blew primers and locked my bolt up. Others on the web had said that was a "good load".
As with all reloading, it's a challenge but it's fun to do.
 
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To accurate okie.....
Components are expensive. There are only a few companies making ammo right now.
Initially, starting out loading only solid copper bullets for supers and subs.
Converting 6.5 creedmoor brass (Hornady works best) is a bit of trial and error, but once you have it figured out, it's a breeze.
Other than that, it's pretty much the same as any other cartridge except it's NOT SAAMI speced yet so mo "official" numbers to go by.
Start low on loads and work up. Loads you might think are OK will be bad jiu jiu in some guns.
I loaded 32gr 1680 for 225gr CX bullet and it blew primers and locked my bolt up. Others on the web had said that was a "good load".
As with all reloading, it's a challenge but it's fun to do.
86 blk is more based off a gt case than it is a creed. Walls and shoulder position are near the same. You be able to straight neck up, fireform, and probably neck turn. Bit since Alpha is making brass for 8.6 all this work if pointless.