anneal rite
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i dont see the advantage of it over just putting the case in a socket and using a drill.
there is still no perfect consistency to it, just like the drill method.
i dont see the advantage of it over just putting the case in a socket and using a drill.
there is still no perfect consistency to it, just like the drill method.
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In case you haven't heard of it, check out the Giraud annealer on youtube. Got one for christmas. It rocks. I annealed about 1500 pieces of 308 in a couple of settings. The beauty of the Giraud is the hopper for holding brass. Holds several hundred.
In case you haven't heard of it, check out the Giraud annealer on youtube. Got one for christmas. It rocks. I annealed about 1500 pieces of 308 in a couple of settings. The beauty of the Giraud is the hopper for holding brass. Holds several hundred.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rookie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In case you haven't heard of it, check out the Giraud annealer on youtube. Got one for christmas. It rocks. I annealed about 1500 pieces of 308 in a couple of settings. The beauty of the Giraud is the hopper for holding brass. Holds several hundred. </div></div>
That thing is high on my shopping list, has been since I first saw it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rookie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In case you haven't heard of it, check out the Giraud annealer on youtube. Got one for christmas. It rocks. I annealed about 1500 pieces of 308 in a couple of settings. The beauty of the Giraud is the hopper for holding brass. Holds several hundred. </div></div>
That thing is high on my shopping list, has been since I first saw it.
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most of my rifle reloading is batches of 100 or smaller. most i do is 250 223 at a time for high power
most of my rifle reloading is batches of 100 or smaller. most i do is 250 223 at a time for high power
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only own 100 for the 338 100 for the 308 and 200 for the 22 250 and smaller lots for my hunting rifles. mainly looking at all the options for my 338 and my 223 600 yd loads
only own 100 for the 338 100 for the 308 and 200 for the 22 250 and smaller lots for my hunting rifles. mainly looking at all the options for my 338 and my 223 600 yd loads
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By of update, I have been working on measuring the actual temp of annealed necks and case bodies. Being the gear queer that I am, I purchased a laser thermometer from Harbor Freight. The brand is Cen Tech.
In the packaged instructions it says that it does not work on reflective metals such as steel or aluminum. Let me just add to that, that it wont work on brass either so dont waste your money.
Instructions suggest wrapping the reflective surface in duct tap, allow the tape to heat to the temp of the metal and then read off the tape. Totally not practical in the annealing application as temps change rapidly. Plus the tape would likely catch fire.
By of update, I have been working on measuring the actual temp of annealed necks and case bodies. Being the gear queer that I am, I purchased a laser thermometer from Harbor Freight. The brand is Cen Tech.
In the packaged instructions it says that it does not work on reflective metals such as steel or aluminum. Let me just add to that, that it wont work on brass either so dont waste your money.
Instructions suggest wrapping the reflective surface in duct tap, allow the tape to heat to the temp of the metal and then read off the tape. Totally not practical in the annealing application as temps change rapidly. Plus the tape would likely catch fire.
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I'm spending hours on the web looking for a setup like this guy's got.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_ohUknmaq4
building an induction annealer SHOULD be an easy project. If you know enough about electronics, which I don't. But it makes annealing look so freaking EASY, like it SHOULD be. Not clunky, large, expensive (the expensive I mean $400 to $500 or more). A mini Ductor 2 runs around $500. Components, if I'm following some of the threads I've seen on this idea, should be under $100. If only someone had a plan and some instructions.
I'm spending hours on the web looking for a setup like this guy's got.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_ohUknmaq4
building an induction annealer SHOULD be an easy project. If you know enough about electronics, which I don't. But it makes annealing look so freaking EASY, like it SHOULD be. Not clunky, large, expensive (the expensive I mean $400 to $500 or more). A mini Ductor 2 runs around $500. Components, if I'm following some of the threads I've seen on this idea, should be under $100. If only someone had a plan and some instructions.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rookie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">By of update, I have been working on measuring the actual temp of annealed necks and case bodies. Being the gear queer that I am, I purchased a laser thermometer from Harbor Freight. The brand is Cen Tech.
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you could get a probe and stick it on there, a ktype one. It would probably survive , as long as the wires dont cross.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rookie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">By of update, I have been working on measuring the actual temp of annealed necks and case bodies. Being the gear queer that I am, I purchased a laser thermometer from Harbor Freight. The brand is Cen Tech.
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you could get a probe and stick it on there, a ktype one. It would probably survive , as long as the wires dont cross.
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i just built it a few weeks ago, seems pretty consistant to me. the necks NEVER turned orange, the test pieces i did get those hot and i just played around til it moved before the orange glow. A guy on another forum said they look like scrap, i thought they looked good. They look blue in the pic but not really in person, i guess the flash made it look funny
i just built it a few weeks ago, seems pretty consistant to me. the necks NEVER turned orange, the test pieces i did get those hot and i just played around til it moved before the orange glow. A guy on another forum said they look like scrap, i thought they looked good. They look blue in the pic but not really in person, i guess the flash made it look funny
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I have been using one of these from "Bench Source" for about 6 months now and the thing works fantastic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaXzARG5Qz0
Sully
I have been using one of these from "Bench Source" for about 6 months now and the thing works fantastic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaXzARG5Qz0
Sully
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">whats a set up like that cost
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I sell the blade and drawings of the top plate, torch arms and drive wheel for $60 shipped. The rest of the costs depend on how much "stuff" you have to finish the machine. Most of the folks that have put one together get out for under $200.
The very first video in this album is one built off my plans. The other photos are a step by step of my build.
http://s121.photobucket.com/albums/o213/jmorrismetal/annealer/
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">whats a set up like that cost
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I sell the blade and drawings of the top plate, torch arms and drive wheel for $60 shipped. The rest of the costs depend on how much "stuff" you have to finish the machine. Most of the folks that have put one together get out for under $200.
The very first video in this album is one built off my plans. The other photos are a step by step of my build.
http://s121.photobucket.com/albums/o213/jmorrismetal/annealer/
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The Giraud looks cool. I love his trimmer. I have the Bench Source machine and I can do a batch of 50 - 100 cases PDQ. It is not like you will ever be able to set it and leave the room, but it looks like the Giraud requires less babysitting.
I love my Bench Source.
Here is a special deal on it:
http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f28/bench-source-annealing-machine-special-offer-price-88901/
The Giraud looks cool. I love his trimmer. I have the Bench Source machine and I can do a batch of 50 - 100 cases PDQ. It is not like you will ever be able to set it and leave the room, but it looks like the Giraud requires less babysitting.
I love my Bench Source.
Here is a special deal on it:
http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f28/bench-source-annealing-machine-special-offer-price-88901/
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The Bench Source is a little better than the Brass-o-matic in that it actually twirls the case when it is under the flame. Like the Brass-o-matic, the holes are big enough that it can anneal just about any case. It also has a cooling fan. It is pretty much the deluxe model.
No doubt, handier people than I could build their own. If I had time to build my own, I would have time to anneal my cases with an electric screwdriver and a can of butane.
The Bench Source is a little better than the Brass-o-matic in that it actually twirls the case when it is under the flame. Like the Brass-o-matic, the holes are big enough that it can anneal just about any case. It also has a cooling fan. It is pretty much the deluxe model.
No doubt, handier people than I could build their own. If I had time to build my own, I would have time to anneal my cases with an electric screwdriver and a can of butane.
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I bought the Giraud and I love it. I've annealed about 4000 .223 so far. It works really well when you can talk one of the kids into feeding it.
I bought the Giraud and I love it. I've annealed about 4000 .223 so far. It works really well when you can talk one of the kids into feeding it.
You are in error that there is consistency. As the manufacturer of the Aneal-Rite we contacted the manufacture of Tempilaq back in 2009 and worked out the process of putting 750 degree temp INSIDE the case neck as direct flame contact will not read properly if placed on the outside of the case as you would be reading flame temperature and not brass temperature first. I just annealed a number of .308 Win. cases using the spinning socket method and to reach 750 degrees it took an average of 9.65 seconds each. Using the Anneal-Rite we get annealing in 2.5 to 3 seconds. If you do 50 or 100 cases at a session holding a hand drill and trying to keep the neck of the case consistently in the flame of one torch will producre hand fatigue. Our system works perfectly, I have done thousands of cases and have a 5 shot gorup just under 5/8"at 300 yards with my Remington 700. So neck annealing is beneificial for accuracy, however annealing is but one step in attaining accuracy. We gurarantee our products and if a customer is not satisfied they can return our products for a full refund within 14 days after receipt. Tom Wilson
Starts at 109.30 including te Tempilaq heat indicating fluid which lasts at least 1000 to 1500 cases..
Complete setup starts at 109.30 for .308 and similar cases 11 cartridge case holders available up to .50 BMG. This is a very reasonable unit, what do you pay for a scope, rifle or reloading press?
I inquired a number of thermal reading guns years ago, all stated they would not work trying to read through flames, Tempilaq on inside of the case neck is the only practical way to get quick, accurate readings. This product is included with the Anneal-Rite unit and it is for sale for those with other machies from Enterprise Services, LLC, the manufacture of the Anneal-Rite.
Anneal-Rite comes with total instructions and you will get annealing onmost cases in 2 - 3 seconds, Tempilaq is included which guarantees accurate annealing at 750 Deg. Price starts at 109.30 postpaid.
I use a modified version of the Anneal-Rite system. I no longer use Tempilaq because I've got the timing down pretty well. I modified it by building an arm to mount the case holder to that lowers it and allows the installation of a small DC motor that turns the case during the process.
If I was doing hundreds of cases at a time, I would buy something with a little automation, but typically do 50-80 and it works very well.
Caveat: it does take practice to get it down, but once you do, it works well.
If I was doing hundreds of cases at a time, I would buy something with a little automation, but typically do 50-80 and it works very well.
Caveat: it does take practice to get it down, but once you do, it works well.
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