Another coward soyboy tells us why we should not carry guns while in the wilderness

[Blue Sky Country]

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You Don't Need to Hike with a Gun
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No, I think you need some man-meat shoved up both your upper and bottom holes so you'll shut the fuck up...

You Don't Need to Hike with a Gun

Unless you're hunting, it's a terrible idea to pack heat in the backcountry

www.outsideonline.com

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Many, it seems, fancy themselves pretty savvy gunslingers: Is that Wild Bill Hickock or Jeremy from accounting?
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I self identify as Wild Bill Hickok. End of story. How's that for an answer? Also, you need to research the stories of two men named Stephen Willeford and Johnnie Langendorff. They are the same civilians that you think you look down upon. They took down a heavily armed church mass shooter by shooting his ass and mortally wounding him. By the time the police arrived, it was all over.

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Anonymous recreationists carrying guns should scare you, too.
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No, I am not scared of that, because I am not a spineless and cowardly pussy ass faggot like you are.

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I’m not anti-gun,
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A lot of pedophiles do not admit to being pedophiles either. They say that they just like to fuck little kids...

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I’ve been an outdoor writer and editor for nearly as long, covering everything from skiing and climbing to hunting and fishing. I own a backcountry guide service and operate exclusively in grizzly country, including some of the most bear-dense parts of Yellowstone. I’ve had dozens of grizzly encounters, run-ins with polar bears on Arctic ski expeditions, and more than a few awkward conversations with disturbed individuals over the years—all sans sidearm and no worse for wear. Some of these experiences were scary, but I’ve never pulled the trigger on my bear spray (much less a pistol), and every one of those encounters made me a better outdoorsman.
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Watch out everybody, we got a (keyboard) badass here.

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The only fact that truly matters is irrefutable: the more firearms present in a situation, the greater chance you have of being injured or killed.
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Everything we do in life is a gamble, and I'll take my chances. And besides, I don't like being preached at.

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Guns were part of my wardrobe, and I’m comfortable with almost any firearm you could put in my hand. It’s guns in other peoples’ hands that make me nervous.
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So you are an elitist piece of shit too. That gives me even more reason to hate your fucking guts, bitch boy. If guns in the hands of "others" bother you so much, why not come and try to take them from us?

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One of my instructors (a former Army Ranger) told us that if you need to improvise a defensive situation, it’s probably already too late. Whether it’s a charging bear, a person with a knife, or a terrorist with a bomb, if we’re reacting to a situation, we’ve already lost.
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Then I'll go down fighting until my last breath, not cowering in a corner like your pussy ass. Keep your helplessness cuck fetishes to yourself. We don't like to hear it.

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A gun is not the cure for fear.
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Yes it is.

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Guns treat the symptoms of fear by making us feel safer and more powerful.
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Fuck yeah, and I like it.

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Please, for the sake of the rest of us—the good guys on the trail—don’t carry a gun.
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I carry a gun just to keep myself and my loved ones safe from elitist scumbags like YOU.

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Going for a hike, run, or bike ride in the woods is incredibly safe. Let go of the fear.
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The more I read your shit, the more I can sense some potential serial killer vibes coming from you. Not good at all, buddy.

 

[cornhusker86]

So carrying a firearm for hunting is OK, but carrying for protection is unsafe? Takes clients into bear country w/o protection? He will get someone killed...

 

[Dewey7271]

We need @THEIS to vet this guy.
Bet there’s an agenda lurking there somewhere.


Edit: and I agree w @cornhusker86, guides like this are an accident waiting to happen for their clients

 

[diverdon]

I hope you posted your answers to all hos points on his article! Also someone should ask if he hikes with his wife and where they hike. Even if every word he said was true (of course I agree with your point by point refutation) it would be a good enough reason to carry a gun because it is fun to have one.

 

[Blue Sky Country]

I hope you posted your answers to all hos points on his article! Also someone should ask if he hikes with his wife and where they hike. Even if every word he said was true (of course I agree with your point by point refutation) it would be a good enough reason to carry a gun because it is fun to have one.

The article page doesn't have a comments section, just as I expected. His fragile and pathetic little ego will not survive the clowning and ridicule. He and his handlers know it.

 

[Redmanss]

Not surprised, Outside Magazine has been anti-gun for quite some time. It was taken over by granola eaters back in the 90s.

 

[Rlandry]

Typical Liberal bedetter.

 

[powdahound76]

I read his stuff in Backcountry ski magazine for a few years.
Pretty sure his guiding is all in the Winter as a ski guide, not when the bears are out or guiding hunting or fishing.

Any “man” who isnt prepared to defend his family is a spineless puke.
Including some of my family who say they couldnt do it.

 

[Slash0311]

If he would have approached it as saving weight, I could at least understand that argument as a backpacker. But to say statistically that the chances are low is bullshit. I wear a seatbelt, I wear eye pro, I wear other safety gear to protect against those chances. I always carry a gun for that same protection.

 

[Rthur]

He needs to take off where Treadwell "finished".


R

 

[Dougie308]

To quote Bugs Bunny. "What a Maroon!"

I have cruised the Missouri Ozarks for 50 plus year, and even as a kid I was armed. Back when it was because of bears, snakes and pigs. As an adult running the logging trails and back roads on a four-wheeler and in my Pinzgauer it was because of the occasional tweeker guarding his meth lab or gardener guarding his weed plot.

I can't believe this is even a conversation.

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You Don't Need to Hike with a Gun
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No, I think you need some man-meat shoved up both your upper and bottom holes so you'll shut the fuck up...

You Don't Need to Hike with a Gun

Unless you're hunting, it's a terrible idea to pack heat in the backcountry

www.outsideonline.com

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Many, it seems, fancy themselves pretty savvy gunslingers: Is that Wild Bill Hickock or Jeremy from accounting?
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I self identify as Wild Bill Hickok. End of story. How's that for an answer?

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Anonymous recreationists carrying guns should scare you, too.
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No, I am not scared of that, because I am not a spineless and cowardly pussy ass faggot like you are.

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I’m not anti-gun,
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A lot of pedophiles do not admit to being pedophiles either. They say that they just like to fuck little kids...

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I’ve been an outdoor writer and editor for nearly as long, covering everything from skiing and climbing to hunting and fishing. I own a backcountry guide service and operate exclusively in grizzly country, including some of the most bear-dense parts of Yellowstone. I’ve had dozens of grizzly encounters, run-ins with polar bears on Arctic ski expeditions, and more than a few awkward conversations with disturbed individuals over the years—all sans sidearm and no worse for wear. Some of these experiences were scary, but I’ve never pulled the trigger on my bear spray (much less a pistol), and every one of those encounters made me a better outdoorsman.
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Watch out everybody, we got a (keyboard) badass here.

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The only fact that truly matters is irrefutable: the more firearms present in a situation, the greater chance you have of being injured or killed.
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Everything we do in life is a gamble, and I'll take my chances. And besides, I don't like being preached at.

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Guns were part of my wardrobe, and I’m comfortable with almost any firearm you could put in my hand. It’s guns in other peoples’ hands that make me nervous.
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So you are an elitist piece of shit too. That gives me even more reason to hate your fucking guts, bitch boy. If guns in the hands of "others" bother you so much, why not come and try to take them from us?

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One of my instructors (a former Army Ranger) told us that if you need to improvise a defensive situation, it’s probably already too late. Whether it’s a charging bear, a person with a knife, or a terrorist with a bomb, if we’re reacting to a situation, we’ve already lost.
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Then I'll go down fighting until my last breath, not cowering in a corner like your pussy ass. Keep your helplessness cuck fetishes to yourself. We don't like to hear it.

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A gun is not the cure for fear.
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Yes it is.

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Guns treat the symptoms of fear by making us feel safer and more powerful.
----------

Fuck yeah, and I like it.

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Please, for the sake of the rest of us—the good guys on the trail—don’t carry a gun.
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I carry a gun just to keep myself and my loved ones safe from elitist scumbags like YOU.

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Going for a hike, run, or bike ride in the woods is incredibly safe. Let go of the fear.
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The more I read your shit, the more I can sense some potential serial killer vibes coming from you. Not good at all, buddy.

 

[lash]

That guy is either lying through his teeth about his gun experience or he’s just another elitist that knows how he can run your life better than you can. All in the name of doing it better than you can. So, to refute myself, he’s just another elitist sjw ready to take your rights and mete them out as he sees fit for you.

 

[Redmanss]

That guy is either lying through his teeth about his gun experience or he’s just another elitist that knows how he can run your life better than you can. All in the name of doing it better than you can. So, to refute myself, he’s just another elitist sjw ready to take your rights and mete them out as he sees fit for you.

Being an armed security guard for a bit is hardly "experience".

 

[bourbonbent]

lolwut

It would have been much simpler for him to just say, hey folks, I go everywhere unarmed and I have every intention of not defending myself when one of you wants my shit more than me.

 

[Keel Haul]

If I’m in woods without a gun it’s because the plane I was on crashed. Other than that, sorry douche, you don’t get to tell me to leave the gun at home.

 

[Desert Raven]

First of all- this guy is a dipshit and doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. In the desert of southern Arizona, this safety-boy wouldn’t last long. I’m out here a lot and I have run into the following; western diamondback rattlesnakes (just 2 nights ago- if I had not had my .45 ACP I would be a snakebite victim tonight), mojaves, bobcats, a rabid coyote, javelina with young- they get really aggressive, illegal aliens (no I didn’t shoot them) but I was ready and GLAD I had my gun, and all sorts of various and sundry critters of both the 2 and 4-legged variety. In all of my encounters, I was never afraid.

To me, it’s a matter of common damn sense. I have carried a gun in the wilderness since I was 7 years old. My grandpa taught me that you never go anywhere without one. When your gun is your daily companion, it is as natural as breathing. I have also come across other armed people in the desert and always ended up having a good chat. But I never stopped to chat with little pricks like this piss ant. Once again, it is MY right to keep and BEAR arms- anywhere tf I want to bear them. Especially out in the wilderness.

 

[DuneBoer]

This guy is a fag. I fucked a chick once while wearing a gun. I didn't need to. Probably won't do it again but I think its pretty cool.

 

[Ravenworks]

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You Don't Need to Hike with a Gun
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No, I think you need some man-meat shoved up both your upper and bottom holes so you'll shut the fuck up...

You Don't Need to Hike with a Gun

Unless you're hunting, it's a terrible idea to pack heat in the backcountry

www.outsideonline.com

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Many, it seems, fancy themselves pretty savvy gunslingers: Is that Wild Bill Hickock or Jeremy from accounting?
----------

I self identify as Wild Bill Hickok. End of story. How's that for an answer? Also, you need to research the stories of two men named Stephen Willeford and Johnnie Langendorff. They are the same civilians that you think you look down upon. They took down a heavily armed church mass shooter by shooting his ass and mortally wounding him. By the time the police arrived, it was all over.

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Anonymous recreationists carrying guns should scare you, too.
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No, I am not scared of that, because I am not a spineless and cowardly pussy ass faggot like you are.

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I’m not anti-gun,
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A lot of pedophiles do not admit to being pedophiles either. They say that they just like to fuck little kids...

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I’ve been an outdoor writer and editor for nearly as long, covering everything from skiing and climbing to hunting and fishing. I own a backcountry guide service and operate exclusively in grizzly country, including some of the most bear-dense parts of Yellowstone. I’ve had dozens of grizzly encounters, run-ins with polar bears on Arctic ski expeditions, and more than a few awkward conversations with disturbed individuals over the years—all sans sidearm and no worse for wear. Some of these experiences were scary, but I’ve never pulled the trigger on my bear spray (much less a pistol), and every one of those encounters made me a better outdoorsman.
----------

Watch out everybody, we got a (keyboard) badass here.

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The only fact that truly matters is irrefutable: the more firearms present in a situation, the greater chance you have of being injured or killed.
----------

Everything we do in life is a gamble, and I'll take my chances. And besides, I don't like being preached at.

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Guns were part of my wardrobe, and I’m comfortable with almost any firearm you could put in my hand. It’s guns in other peoples’ hands that make me nervous.
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So you are an elitist piece of shit too. That gives me even more reason to hate your fucking guts, bitch boy. If guns in the hands of "others" bother you so much, why not come and try to take them from us?

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One of my instructors (a former Army Ranger) told us that if you need to improvise a defensive situation, it’s probably already too late. Whether it’s a charging bear, a person with a knife, or a terrorist with a bomb, if we’re reacting to a situation, we’ve already lost.
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Then I'll go down fighting until my last breath, not cowering in a corner like your pussy ass. Keep your helplessness cuck fetishes to yourself. We don't like to hear it.

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A gun is not the cure for fear.
----------

Yes it is.

----------
Guns treat the symptoms of fear by making us feel safer and more powerful.
----------

Fuck yeah, and I like it.

----------
Please, for the sake of the rest of us—the good guys on the trail—don’t carry a gun.
----------

I carry a gun just to keep myself and my loved ones safe from elitist scumbags like YOU.

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Going for a hike, run, or bike ride in the woods is incredibly safe. Let go of the fear.
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The more I read your shit, the more I can sense some potential serial killer vibes coming from you. Not good at all, buddy.

I have a broken Sternum and a bunch of cracked ribs.
The laughing here was fucking brutal, time for a couple of pain pills.

 

[Blue Sky Country]

I have a broken Sternum and a bunch of cracked ribs.
The laughing here was fucking brutal, time for a couple of pain pills.

Damn man be careful!

 

[TheGerman]

 

[armorpl8chikn]

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You Don't Need to Hike with a Gun
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No, I think you need some man-meat shoved up both your upper and bottom holes so you'll shut the fuck up...

You Don't Need to Hike with a Gun

Unless you're hunting, it's a terrible idea to pack heat in the backcountry

www.outsideonline.com

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Many, it seems, fancy themselves pretty savvy gunslingers: Is that Wild Bill Hickock or Jeremy from accounting?
----------

I self identify as Wild Bill Hickok. End of story. How's that for an answer? Also, you need to research the stories of two men named Stephen Willeford and Johnnie Langendorff. They are the same civilians that you think you look down upon. They took down a heavily armed church mass shooter by shooting his ass and mortally wounding him. By the time the police arrived, it was all over.

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Anonymous recreationists carrying guns should scare you, too.
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No, I am not scared of that, because I am not a spineless and cowardly pussy ass faggot like you are.

----------
I’m not anti-gun,
----------

A lot of pedophiles do not admit to being pedophiles either. They say that they just like to fuck little kids...

----------
I’ve been an outdoor writer and editor for nearly as long, covering everything from skiing and climbing to hunting and fishing. I own a backcountry guide service and operate exclusively in grizzly country, including some of the most bear-dense parts of Yellowstone. I’ve had dozens of grizzly encounters, run-ins with polar bears on Arctic ski expeditions, and more than a few awkward conversations with disturbed individuals over the years—all sans sidearm and no worse for wear. Some of these experiences were scary, but I’ve never pulled the trigger on my bear spray (much less a pistol), and every one of those encounters made me a better outdoorsman.
----------

Watch out everybody, we got a (keyboard) badass here.

----------
The only fact that truly matters is irrefutable: the more firearms present in a situation, the greater chance you have of being injured or killed.
----------

Everything we do in life is a gamble, and I'll take my chances. And besides, I don't like being preached at.

----------
Guns were part of my wardrobe, and I’m comfortable with almost any firearm you could put in my hand. It’s guns in other peoples’ hands that make me nervous.
----------

So you are an elitist piece of shit too. That gives me even more reason to hate your fucking guts, bitch boy. If guns in the hands of "others" bother you so much, why not come and try to take them from us?

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One of my instructors (a former Army Ranger) told us that if you need to improvise a defensive situation, it’s probably already too late. Whether it’s a charging bear, a person with a knife, or a terrorist with a bomb, if we’re reacting to a situation, we’ve already lost.
----------

Then I'll go down fighting until my last breath, not cowering in a corner like your pussy ass. Keep your helplessness cuck fetishes to yourself. We don't like to hear it.

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A gun is not the cure for fear.
----------

Yes it is.

----------
Guns treat the symptoms of fear by making us feel safer and more powerful.
----------

Fuck yeah, and I like it.

----------
Please, for the sake of the rest of us—the good guys on the trail—don’t carry a gun.
----------

I carry a gun just to keep myself and my loved ones safe from elitist scumbags like YOU.

----------
Going for a hike, run, or bike ride in the woods is incredibly safe. Let go of the fear.
----------

The more I read your shit, the more I can sense some potential serial killer vibes coming from you. Not good at all, buddy.

Shit, you...uh...you pretty much covered it!

Tell the truth....you got up this morning and thought: "Man, I'd really like to win an Orson today."

 

[Blue Sky Country]

That guy is either lying through his teeth about his gun experience or he’s just another elitist that knows how he can run your life better than you can. All in the name of doing it better than you can. So, to refute myself, he’s just another elitist sjw ready to take your rights and mete them out as he sees fit for you.

I am pretty certain that his pickup line of choice when approaching women is: "Shhh.........It's okay. I won't hurt you..."

 

[Maser]

Always make sure to get a thermos full of soy boy tears on hand when going hiking because their support for Socialism makes their tears mix great with Cuban rum.

 

[THEIS]

Hi,

Well Ol Drew probably needs to stay in his lane and clean up his own mess since he had a client die and another injured earlier this year at his company Bell Lake Yurt.

One skier dies in Tobacco Root Mountains avalanche, another injured

One man died and another was seriously injured Friday around 1 p.m. while they were backcountry skiing in the Tobacco Root Mountains.

mtstandard.com

Sincerely,
Theis

 

[pmclaine]

That's fine.

That's his opinion.

Its his right to have ideas different than mine.

Now just as I wont advocate against his entire profession because of some irresponsible guides he should not rail against a natural right based on the rare irresponsible people abusing their rights.

 

[powdahound76]

@THEIS

Looks like they were staying at the yurt and backcountry skiing and were not on a guided trip with his company.

Im in 110% agreement he should shut his holster about guns in the back country and want to make sure we stick to the facts.

 

[Fig]

The guy is a fucktard.
I'm armed all the time. Why would I disarm going into the woods?
I do however add bear spray if I'm doing anything in bear country.

 

[THEIS]

Hi,

Correct they were not on guided trip with him but he does own the company and has all these avalanche certs....he could have put a safety ban on all unguided skiing trips until avalanche control handled the situation right?

I know jack shit about avalanches so have to leave that to you mountain guys...

Sincerely,
Theis

 

[pmclaine]

Looks like when his ass is possibly liable he has different opinions on what people decide to do....

“We let people (make their own) decisions," Pogge said. "That’s the beauty of the backcountry. They can take whatever risk they want. But, unfortunately, this ended very tragically."

 

[Mike Casselton]

Looks like when his ass is possibly liable he has different opinions on what people decide to do....

“We let people (make their own) decisions," Pogge said. "That’s the beauty of the backcountry. They can take whatever risk they want. But, unfortunately, this ended very tragically."

That response was what sticks in my craw.
We let them make their own decisions.
Well, that is unless a gun is involved then I want to be the one to make the decision...

 

[Iamero]

I was just in Montana for a week around the Glacier National area and I flew my sidearm out there to hike around with. What I found interesting was the number of people who were 'shocked' that I was carrying a firearm instead of just bear spray. You could tell we were in tourist country and not mixed in with the locals or they probably wouldn't have batted an eye at that.

 

[10ring'r]

This person is so full of shit, I had to stop reading the article after just three paragraphs! Who the hell goes into grizzly/polar bear country without a firearm?? Suicidal tendencies anyone? That dude has been very lucky in his life of "back country guiding". I would think that anyone carrying a weapon, would know how to use it when the need arises, I know I do and I hope I could use it under threat or stress, but I am getting old, so I hope I still have what it takes. Heading out into the woods/back country now a days without a firearm, is just not smart. Too much bad shit can happen and I'm not talking just about wildlife scenarios. Mac

 

[RTH1800]

I did not see the guy telling or forcing his ideas on others. I read it as pleading or begging. No doubt he would like to find someone with guts to force disarmament upon everyone. Not gonna be him.

Worst thing about dying unarmed and stupid is the time between when you realized that had you brought your gun and your dying because you did not would be spent in full realization of your mistake.

 

[clcustom1911]

"I’ve also worked as an armed courier, transporting millions of dollars in an armored Freightliner—a job that required defensive-firearms training and certification with law enforcement and former military contractors."

Great....he's an authority on firearms and self defense because he lived in Montana for awhile and was a $15 an hour money truck driver who went through the standard administrative certification process to be a registered armed guard.

He's a douchebag Fudd who thinks firearms are only for hunting. @Blue Sky Country hit everything onthe head. Fuck this idiot.

 

[clcustom1911]

It was taken over by granola eaters back in the 90s.

Much like many other things which are commie-leaning now.

It disgusts me.

 

[pmclaine]

I was just in Montana for a week around the Glacier National area and I flew my sidearm out there to hike around with. What I found interesting was the number of people who were 'shocked' that I was carrying a firearm instead of just bear spray. You could tell we were in tourist country and not mixed in with the locals or they probably wouldn't have batted an eye at that.

When we were hiking Yellowstone I had my bear spray but felt it was uselessly redundant.

There were so many fat, flip flop wearing fools on the trails I felt safe I could outrun them long enough they would be the preferred grizzly food.

 

[RTH1800]

When we were hiking Yellowstone I had my bear spray but felt it was uselessly redundant.

There were so many fat, flip flop wearing fools on the trails I felt safe I could outrun them long enough they would be the preferred grizzly food.

What if you run into a Griz on a lean meat low fat diet?

 

[Mike Casselton]

What if you run into a Griz on a lean meat low fat diet?

I'm pretty confident that they prefer the marbled ones...

 

[pmclaine]

What if you run into a Griz on a lean meat low fat diet?

Obviously a substandard bear...

Id stand my ground and kick the shit out of him.

 

[Near miss]

Please, for the sake of the rest of us—the good guys on the trail—don’t carry a gun.

Erm.. Maybe not the brightest sentence I've read. Unfortunately, I can see to the future and in 2028 his article will be posted again but with words:

Please, for the sake of the rest of us—the good guys on the trail—don’t carry a knife.

 

[_Windrider_]

@THEIS

Looks like they were staying at the yurt and backcountry skiing and were not on a guided trip with his company.

Im in 110% agreement he should shut his COCKholster about guns in the back country and want to make sure we stick to the facts.

FIFY

 

[FS1]

Well, I just say he can go unarmed and just live with being offended by my handgun. This is America, he does not have to be armed, but I still can be.

 

[powdahound76]

@TacticalDillhole

Its implied sir.
I am working at being less crass and not swearing.
Im raising 3 kids in a world full of rottenness and working my butt off to teach em right.
Not that swearing is wrong and I dont need m 6, 7, and 8 year olds sounding like Marines at the bar.

 

[Rthur]

Please, for the sake of the rest of us—the good guys on the trail—don’t carry a gun.

Erm.. Maybe not the brightest sentence I've read. Unfortunately, I can see to the future and in 2028 his article will be posted again but with words:

Please, for the sake of the rest of us—the good guys on the trail—don’t carry a knife.

His quote tells much.
Talking from a position of authority/chosen group.
So he had some training by Uncle Sugar and now we've another "expert".
Evidently just carrying the gun creates violence.
Where have I heard that before?...
Odds are low to have a fatal bear encounter.
Consisderably lower than an encounter with a self righteous prick.

R

 

[Snuby642]

So the bear spray.

Do you spray it on after you shoot it so you can say it had a warning?

As in I used the bear spray and had to resort lethal cause it sounds pc?

 

[2aBaC̶a̶]

 

[Blue Sky Country]

This person is so full of shit, I had to stop reading the article after just three paragraphs! Who the hell goes into grizzly/polar bear country without a firearm?? Suicidal tendencies anyone? That dude has been very lucky in his life of "back country guiding". I would think that anyone carrying a weapon, would know how to use it when the need arises, I know I do and I hope I could use it under threat or stress, but I am getting old, so I hope I still have what it takes. Heading out into the woods/back country now a days without a firearm, is just not smart. Too much bad shit can happen and I'm not talking just about wildlife scenarios. Mac

Honestly speaking, even encounters with dangerous wildlife pales in comparison to run ins with predators of the two legged, human variety. The levels of utter sadism and depravity achievable by a fucked up human mind is beyond comprehension.

Anyone who has paid attention to the story of the Dnepropetrovsk Maniacs, a trio of possibly the worst serial killers in recent history, would be aware of a video that went viral on the Internet in 2008 that would be known as "3 Guys 1 Hammer", or simply as the "Russian hammer video".

On July 12, 2007, Sergei Yatzenko, 48 years old and a recent cancer survivor, was riding his motorcycle on a wooded road near the town of Podgorodnoye when the trio ambushed him, throwing rocks which caused him to lose control and fall off the bike. Over the next 45 minutes, Sayenko, Suprunyuk, and Hanzha beat and sodomized the already injured Yatzenko with hammers, pliers, pipes, and other construction implements while filming the entire ordeal on a digital video camera. At one point, one of the men thrust a screwdriver into Yatzenko's abdomen and began poking around his intestines. The video clearly shows the still conscious Yatzenko squirming and sputtering in agony as he was being disemboweled. Finally, the attackers gouged out both of Yatzenko's eyes with the same screwdriver before slicing his throat and finishing him off. The video, which was uploaded under "torture porn/crush fetish" tags just hours after the attack, received millions of views and was instrumental in finally bringing down the murderous trio, who had been responsible for 21 murders in the Dnepropetrovsk and Podgorodnoye region of Ukraine in a span of just a few months. All of their victims had been selected based on how helpless, frail, or inattentive to their surroundings they appeared. All of the victims were tortured and brutalized before being killed.

I had seen that video and that was the moment I had decided that I'll be damned to hell if I ever go unarmed, anywhere, and anyone who tries to disarm me will be regarded on the same level as an actual criminal. Fuck that shit, man.

 

[chevy_man]

I was just in Montana for a week around the Glacier National area and I flew my sidearm out there to hike around with. What I found interesting was the number of people who were 'shocked' that I was carrying a firearm instead of just bear spray. You could tell we were in tourist country and not mixed in with the locals or they probably wouldn't have batted an eye at that.

Just an FYI, you can carry concealed whenever you're engaged in outdoor activities with no CCW in MT. Open carry is perfectly legal but you don't see it often.

 

[lash]

Just an FYI, you can carry concealed whenever you're engaged in outdoor activities with no CCW in MT. Open carry is perfectly legal but you don't see it often.

I haven’t lived in Michigan in 20 years, but even then, while hunting, you could carry without a CCW. You did have to have the weapon cased and unloaded to and from your place of recreation, but that allowed me to carry my .44. Since that was actually my hunting weapon at the time, cross chest carry was a decent option.

 

[chevy_man]

I haven’t lived in Michigan in 20 years, but even then, while hunting, you could carry without a CCW. You did have to have the weapon cased and unloaded to and from your place of recreation, but that allowed me to carry my .44. Since that was actually my hunting weapon at the time, cross chest carry was a decent option.

We don't have any of those silly unloaded and cased laws. Just don't have it concealed in town and you're good. (Concealed means on your person here, glovebox, console, etc are all fine to leave a loaded gun with no CCW).

Our laws are still simple enough the only real reason to have a CCW is the nics skip. Reciprocity sucks though since the only safety training required can be fulfilled by having taken hunters safety.