Another coward.

[Spooky68]

This time it’s at a church in Texas.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/several-casualties-reported-texas-church-shooting-n817751

 

[2ndamendfan]

Yep. Waiting on detals. World imploding around us.

 

[Spooky68]

We posted at the exact same time... I was gonna delete mine but you beat me to it. I have family down there. He said the area is full of helos and police cars etc..

 

[Spooky68]

My wife rolls her eyes when I carry in church

not anymore.

 

[MosesTheTank]

Got a lump in my throat right now and my chest feels a little heavy. Just watching the news and feeling dreadfully sad for anyone touched by this.

 

[MosesTheTank]

My wife rolls her eyes when I carry in church

not anymore.

Wife used to give me funny looks because I carry everywhere. Like yours, not anymore.

 

[Threadcutter308]

Is it just me, or does it strike anyone else as odd that Antifa were practically non-existent yesterday, and now this. I know it's a huge stretch and one that I'm not inclined to think is more than just a weird coincidence. Will be interesting to find out the perp's political leanings. I have my suspicions.......

Prayers to all, except Soros.

 

[EddieNFL]

Wife used to give me funny looks because I carry everywhere. Like yours, not anymore.

Got the same when we first married. Now she carries to church.

 

[2ndamendfan]

We posted at the exact same time... I was gonna delete mine but you beat me to it. I have family down there. He said the area is full of helos and police cars etc..

I saw you hit enter first. I can bow out of the way.

I carry as much as possible. But there are 3 places i refuse to go in unarmed. Churches, movie theaters, schools.

 

[2ndamendfan]

Got the same when we first married. Now she carries to church.

Good for you. I wish i could get my wife to get her CCW.

 

[Spooky68]

Is it just me, or does it strike anyone else as odd that Antifa were practically non-existent yesterday, and now this. I know it's a huge stretch and one that I'm not inclined to think is more than just a weird coincidence. Will be interesting to find out the perp's political leanings. I have my suspicions.......

Prayers to all, except Soros.

I can pretty much guarantee that there ain’t no Antifa in that part of Texas.

 

[Threadcutter308]

No, wasn't suggesting there were/are. I'm just surprised that the "big event" yesterday (nationwide) was as seriously under attended and as much of a poop out as it was. Then this....

Will be interesting to see if the FBI gets more involved in this one and starts burying facts like they have in the Vegas investigation.

 

[Spooky68]

What’s left of my stomach lining is now gone. My sister in law was called in to school due to the fact that students were involved.

I hope that fuck was gut shot and died slowly.

 

[Mike_Honcho]

The web tells me Sutherland Springs has a population of @ 650 people / 94% white / and is 45 minutes from San Antonio, 90 minutes from Austin.

I’'d be shocked if the shooter is local.



RIP

 

[Veer_G]

I can pretty much guarantee that there ain’t no Antifa in that part of Texas.

FWIW, it was said that the shooter wasn't local. The CW is that Paddock in Vegas chose his weapons in order to force focus upon them and further the hoplophobe groupthink.

I'm sure that this is more of the same, and I'm sure that the area and target were once again no accident. Was it the result of coordinated activity? I hope they look hard for proof.

 

[timesublime]

Omg, i cant wait for the the gun control uproar.

Didn't take long...

 

[oneshot86]

they need to take the heat off their imploding party

 

[Spooky68]

FWIW, it was said that the shooter wasn't local. The CW is that Paddock in Vegas chose his weapons in order to force focus upon them and further the hoplophobe groupthink.

I'm sure that this is more of the same, and I'm sure that the area and target were once again no accident. Was it the result of coordinated activity? I hope they look hard for proof.

I understand what you’’’re saying... but not local could be any other small ranching/oil n gas small town in the vicinity.

I mean that’s takes a hell of a lot of thought to hit Vegas and then nowhereville Texas.

I suppose that can happen.... but damn...

 

[2ndamendfan]

Death toll raised to 28.

Veer_G finally a sensible theory. Which the first part I have been talking about for weeks.

Spooky68 I think that is the point. Nowhereville, trying to hit people in "their safe place".

 

[308pirate]

I mean that’s takes a hell of a lot of thought to hit Vegas and then nowhereville Texas....

It's called asymetrical warfare

 

[Veer_G]

I understand what you’’’re saying... but not local could be any other small ranching/oil n gas small town in the vicinity.

I mean that’s takes a hell of a lot of thought to hit Vegas and then nowhereville Texas.

I suppose that can happen.... but damn...

Not local was not local, as in not small-town, rural, and conservative. Paddock chose victims likely to support a conservative viewpoint. My surmise is that we discover someone from a place like Austin, aspiring for martyrdom in advancing their cause. Conservatives to them are as dehumanized as cockroaches are to us. No sense yet that this wasn't a lone wolf.

 

[MosesTheTank]

David P. Kelley. He's from New Braunfels, a suburb of San Antonio. Sutherland Springs is an hour drive due south.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/devin-patrick-kelley-idd-as-sutherland-springs-church-killer

 

[Centuriator]

Prayers to all, except Soros.

Prayers to God, for all. There, fixed it for you.

 

[Centuriator]

It's called asymetrical warfare

Seriously, you morons are already spinning your conspiracy theory BS? Sick.

 

[Veer_G]

Seriously, you morons are already spinning your conspiracy theory BS? Sick.

Aside from being a contentious, stuffed-shirt boor, do you have anything helpful to add, or were you just looking to self-righteously ejaculate and go?

We've got a fucking crisis here, if you hadn't noticed.

 

[oneshot86]

a god damned crisis he said

 

[5RWill]

As terrible as it is to ask. I'm going to. What was the weapon used?

 

[Veer_G]

a god damned crisis he said

How the fuck else do you qualify it? What if this is part of what Antifa promised?

I don't leap to conspiracy theories first thing, but I'm for whatever it is we can do to protect innocents from harm, short of bans on weapons and accessories.

 

[Maggot]

Is it just me, or does it strike anyone else as odd that Antifa were practically non-existent yesterday, and now this. I know it's a huge stretch and one that I'm not inclined to think is more than just a weird coincidence. Will be interesting to find out the perp's political leanings. I have my suspicions.......

Prayers to all, except Soros.

Better say some for us. If this shit keeps up even the NRA wont be able to keep the wolf from the door...so to speak.

 

[308pirate]

Seriously, you morons are already spinning your conspiracy theory BS? Sick.

The only moron here is YOU, who fails to consider every possible avenue. I'll tell you right now, I suspect alt-left involvement here and in Las Vegas. If you don't like that, kindly GFY

 

[2ndamendfan]

Today is the 8th anniversary of the Fort Hood terrorist attack.

 

[j-huskey]

As terrible as it is to ask. I'm going to. What was the weapon used?

One news source, no accuracy known, Devin Patrick Kelly, 26, full combat gear, picture on Facebook with AR 15 type weapon, authorities combing his social media.
Report says he shot pretty much every single person in the church.

 

[oneshot86]

just what the hell would make someone do this, walks into church and shoots everyone

 

[Veer_G]

https://twitter.com/search?q=devin+patrick+kelly&ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^search

 

[2ndamendfan]

https://twitter.com/search?q=devin+patrick+kelly&ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^search

You have anything that doesn't require Twitter login?

 

[Centuriator]

Tin foil hat weirdos on the loose in the old bear pit....geesh.

Here's a thought.

An evil person carried out an act of pure evil.

And every single human being on this planet has the same evil thoughts, words and deeds just beneath the surface.

No need for some wacko conspiracy theory to explain it.

But, do carry one...if it helps you sleep better at night.

 

[Maggot]

just what the hell would make someone do this, walks into church and shoots everyone

Though I dont think it the motive here, I would say rage, and a sense of feeling betrayed by someoneand probably God and tis is a way of striking back a God and everyone else.

 

[Veer_G]

You have anything that doesn't require Twitter login?

You should be able to see it without being logged in. Wall of info there.

Content on heavy.com: https://heavy.com/news/2017/11/devin-kelley-p-sutherland-springs-church-shooter-patrick-kelly/

 

[5RWill]

One news source, no accuracy known, Devin Patrick Kelly, 26, full combat gear, picture on Facebook with AR 15 type weapon, authorities combing his social media.
Report says he shot pretty much every single person in the church.

Well here we go again. It's funny after the Vegas shooting huge anti-gunners came out on national television and said that no law could've stopped what happened. So they're telling me the conclusion is the same that we've all known that another piece of legislation wont stop shit, yet they're still for it.

 

[2ndamendfan]

Shooter was DDed from airforce in 2014. Per the discussion in the Begdahl thread it takes something serious these days to be DDed.

 

[2ndamendfan]

You should be able to see it without being logged in. Wall of info there.

Content on heavy.com: https://heavy.com/news/2017/11/devin-kelley-p-sutherland-springs-church-shooter-patrick-kelly/

Thanks

 

[Veer_G]

Bad day in Texas, glad the son of a bitch got killed, I only wish it'd been as soon as he started shooting.

Houses of worship need to get people trained, qualed, and posted up. I've been saying this since Oak Creek.

 

[5RWill]

Houses of worship need to get people trained, qualed, and posted up. I've been saying this since Oak Creek.

Agreed, i mean truthfully any unarmed gathering is where it's going. Well i say that, can't remember the last time a BLM, ANTIFA, or gathering of the sort got massacred. Seems to only be decent people minding their own business.

 

[2ndamendfan]

Local person (gas station attendant?) Shot back and stopped the shooting from across the street.

 

[2ndamendfan]

Houses of worship need to get people trained, qualed, and posted up. I've been saying this since Oak Creek.

Agreed. Perferred self impossed vs government induced. Everyone should pay attention to their surroundings.

 

[j-huskey]

Well here we go again. It's funny after the Vegas shooting huge anti-gunners came out on national television and said that no law could've stopped what happened. So they're telling me the conclusion is the same that we've all known that another piece of legislation wont stop shit, yet they're still for it.

With his dishonorable discharge, he is prohibited by fed law to possess a firearm, thus, illegal possession here. Be interesting info on that.

 

[Veer_G]

Local person (gas station attendant?) Shot back and stopped the shooting from across the street.

Link?

 

[5RWill]

With his dishonorable discharge, he is prohibited by fed law to possess a firearm, thus, illegal possession here. Be interesting info on that.

I didn't realize that. Well they can't call for a ban on that basis. I'm sure they'll chant the background check, gun show loophole rhetoric.

 

[2ndamendfan]

As terrible as it is to ask. I'm going to. What was the weapon used?

Being reported as "ruger style assault rifle" so assuming a mini14.

 

[Veer_G]

Discussed on freep: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3601949/posts?page=1