Antifa murder hit

This thread is a Rorschach Ink Blot of a public killing.

“He was a pro!”

“He was a disgruntled employee!”

“He was Antifa! Look at his clothing!”

“He wore black, hooray, lots of people wear black!”

Some of y’all have never met a conspiracy theory that you didn’t enjoy.

My favorite part of this website is watching people who demand evidence in other forums through muzzle velocity, group size, timer results etc, absolutely not demand evidence in The Bear Pit.

-Stan
I am still waiting for some one some how injecting a 6 MM into the mix
 
This thread is a Rorschach Ink Blot of a public killing.

“He was a pro!”

“He was a disgruntled employee!”

“He was Antifa! Look at his clothing!”

“He wore black, hooray, lots of people wear black!”

Some of y’all have never met a conspiracy theory that you didn’t enjoy.

My favorite part of this website is watching people who demand evidence in other forums through muzzle velocity, group size, timer results etc, absolutely not demand evidence in The Bear Pit.

-Stan
You forgot
"He was a hero"
 
Envy right there.
Are you blind ?

This ones insider trading is the least of what they do.

Oligarchy
Big business and gov combined using the force of gov law etc to make both of them rich. By doing thing’s like forcing out competition

All big business hates small business. Read the thread on arf specifically the part about this guys company breaking up private anesthesiologists practices



This is a small sample of the oligarchy we are living in. You Ned Flanders types need to wake up. This crony capitalism bs is anything but free market capitalism

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And who knows how much illegal stuff we never here about

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I am still waiting for some one some how injecting a 6 MM into the mix

If the dude had used a 6.5 Creedmoor, we would all have known to look for a wanna-be tranny whose transition procedure got denied.

But looks like he used a 9mm lungblower, so I am thinking Joe Biden voter.

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The weapon that the shooter used does not look like a VP9. Watch the first video and notice the hand movements to rotate and unlock the bolt. Then look at the surveillance video as the shooter reaches over the top of the pistol to pull the slide back.

The shooter was obviously familiar with shooting a pistol but, IMHO, he probably didn't have the Nielsen device sufficiently lubricated to allow the suppressor to move forward from the gas pressure then slap back with the spring to unlock the barrel.

On the other hand he may have used a suppressor without the Nielsen device, knowing that he would have to manually cycle the slide.



Watch the next video in slow motion. Also recall that the article said that police found three empty cases and three live rounds at the scene.

When the shooter comes in view, he appears to be making sure the suppressor is screwed on tightly. Then he takes aim and fires the first shot. It appears that the slide does move back a little and gas escapes from the rear of the barrel and slide. He still has to reach over the top of the pistol and pull the slide back. That accounts for the first empty casing.

He then attempts to fire the 2nd round but notice that the pistol does not recoil. He pulls the slide back after pulling the trigger. That accounts for the first live round which was ejected.

Now that the next round is chambered he aims and fires again. The pistol recoils but with less smoke than the when the first round was fired. Regardless, we know that this is the 2nd round fired.

He pulls the slide back and ejects the 2nd empty casing. However, the slide does not return fully back into battery. He has to slap the back of the slide to push it in place with the left hand.

That doesn't appear to work so well as he looks like he's pulled the slide back again without firing that round. So the 2nd live round is ejected.

It appears that he still has some trouble getting the slide to move forward after ejecting the 2nd live round. As he's moving toward the victim, he moves the pistol in front of his body and out of view of the camera. He may have pulled the slide back again and ejected the 3rd live round.

He continues to move toward the victim and takes the 3rd shot because the pistol appears to recoil. Immediately after the 3rd shot is taken the shooter lowers the pistol sufficiently, but in front of his body out of camera view, and apparently pulls the slide back again ejecting the 3rd empty casing.

Now that the 4th live round is chambered he continues to walk over to the victim as if to fire a 4th fatal round but makes his exit instead.

Remember to slow the video down all the way and let me know if you agree.



IMHO, I don' t think this was a professional hit man. If he did this for hire, he wasn't very good at it. If he was a professional, he would have closed the distance to the victim to the point of almost sticking the pistol in his back and firing one round then making a hasty exit.

Speaking of the first round; also notice that his first shot hit the victim in the left hip/leg. At that distance, an accomplished pistolero would have been able to hit the victim in the back. This was possibly caused by nervousness on the part of a first time assassin.

If he did have a suppressor with a Nielsen device he probably didn't take very good care of his equipment. He might have been practicing with it prior to the murder but didn't clean the gun or the suppressor.

Like I said earlier, he appears to be ensuring that the suppressor was on tight before firing the first round. How many of us can attest to our cans wanting to come unscrewed after a few rounds?

After you have gained some experience you learn to prevent the problems of suppressors coming unscrewed. Someone with more experience would have ensured the tightness of the suppressor even before coming on the scene so it would not have to be rechecked, wasting time and possibly compromising the mission.

So he likely had some experience with using the suppressor but not enough to be 100% confident at this point. Some of us experienced with using suppressed pistols have either mitigated the problem of them coming unscrewed with blue Loctite, plumber's tape or in some rare cases, Vibratite.

Also note the fact that he experienced three misfires! Amateur reloader? Really bad ammunition? Poorly designed or poorly maintained pistol causing a light primer strike? Who knows but if the shooter was a professional hit man, he was the lowest bidder for the job.
 
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The weapon that the shooter used does not look like a VP9. Watch the first video and notice the hand movements to rotate and unlock the bolt. Then look at the surveillance video as the shooter reaches over the top of the pistol to pull the slide back.

The shooter was obviously familiar with shooting a pistol but, IMHO, he probably didn't have the Nielsen device sufficiently lubricated to allow the suppressor to move forward from the gas pressure then slap back with the spring to unlock the barrel.

On the other hand he may have used a suppressor without the Nielsen device, knowing that he would have to manually cycle the slide.



Watch the next video in slow motion. Also recall that the article said that police found three empty cases and three live rounds at the scene.

When the shooter comes in view, he appears to be making sure the suppressor is screwed on tightly. Then he takes aim and fires the first shot. It appears that the slide does move back a little and gas escapes from the rear of the barrel and slide. He still has to reach over the top of the pistol and pull the slide back. That accounts for the first empty casing.

He then attempts to fire the 2nd round but notice that the pistol does not recoil. He pulls the slide back after pulling the trigger. That accounts for the first live round which was ejected.

Now that the next round is chambered he aims and fires again. The pistol recoils but with less smoke than the when the first round was fired. Regardless, we know that this is the 2nd round fired.

He pulls the slide back and ejects the 2nd empty casing. However, the slide does not return fully back into battery. He has to slap the back of the slide to push it in place with the left hand.

That doesn't appear to work so well as he looks like he's pulled the slide back again without firing that round. So the 2nd live round is ejected.

It appears that he still has some trouble getting the slide to move forward after ejecting the 2nd live round. As he's moving toward the victim, he moves the pistol in front of his body and out of view of the camera. He may have pulled the slide back again and ejected the 3rd live round.

He continues to move toward the victim and takes the 3rd shot because the pistol appears to recoil. Immediately after the 3rd shot is taken the shooter lowers the pistol sufficiently, but in front of his body out of camera view, and apparently pulls the slide back again ejecting the 3rd empty casing.

Now that the 4th live round is chambered he continues to walk over to the victim as if to fire a 4th fatal round but makes his exit instead.

Remember to slow the video down all the way and let me know if you agree.



IMHO, I don' t think this was a professional hit man. If he did this for hire, he wasn't very good at it. If he was a professional, he would have closed the distance to the victim to the point of almost sticking the pistol in his back and firing one round then making a hasty exit.

Speaking of the first round; also notice that his first shot hit the victim in the left hip/leg. At that distance, an accomplished pistolero would have been able to hit the victim in the back. This was possibly caused by nervousness on the part of a first time assassin.

If he did have a suppressor with a Nielsen device he probably didn't take very good care of his equipment. He might have been practicing with it prior to the murder but didn't clean the gun or the suppressor.

Like I said earlier, he appears to be ensuring that the suppressor was on tight before firing the first round. How many of us can attest to our cans wanting to come unscrewed after a few rounds?

After you have gained some experience you learn to prevent the problems of suppressors coming unscrewed. Someone with more experience would have ensured the tightness of the suppressor even before coming on the scene so it would not have to be rechecked, wasting time and possibly compromising the mission.

So he likely had some experience with using the suppressor but not enough to be 100% confident at this point. Some of us experienced with using suppressed pistols have either mitigated the problem of them coming unscrewed with blue Loctite, plumber's tape or in some rare cases, Vibratite.

Also note the fact that he experienced three misfires! Amateur reloader? Really bad ammunition? Poorly designed or poorly maintained pistol causing a light primer strike? Who knows but if the shooter was a professional hit man, he was the lowest bidder for the job.


The three live rounds has been explained.... most likely the gun cycled the empty out and rechambered a round but did not reset the trigger. So when he racked the slide, he was ejecting a live round.

There is a lot of material above... Absolutely not a VP9

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The weapon that the shooter used does not look like a VP9. Watch the first video and notice the hand movements to rotate and unlock the bolt. Then look at the surveillance video as the shooter reaches over the top of the pistol to pull the slide back.

The shooter was obviously familiar with shooting a pistol but, IMHO, he probably didn't have the Nielsen device sufficiently lubricated to allow the suppressor to move forward from the gas pressure then slap back with the spring to unlock the barrel.

On the other hand he may have used a suppressor without the Nielsen device, knowing that he would have to manually cycle the slide.



Watch the next video in slow motion. Also recall that the article said that police found three empty cases and three live rounds at the scene.

When the shooter comes in view, he appears to be making sure the suppressor is screwed on tightly. Then he takes aim and fires the first shot. It appears that the slide does move back a little and gas escapes from the rear of the barrel and slide. He still has to reach over the top of the pistol and pull the slide back. That accounts for the first empty casing.

He then attempts to fire the 2nd round but notice that the pistol does not recoil. He pulls the slide back after pulling the trigger. That accounts for the first live round which was ejected.

Now that the next round is chambered he aims and fires again. The pistol recoils but with less smoke than the when the first round was fired. Regardless, we know that this is the 2nd round fired.

He pulls the slide back and ejects the 2nd empty casing. However, the slide does not return fully back into battery. He has to slap the back of the slide to push it in place with the left hand.

That doesn't appear to work so well as he looks like he's pulled the slide back again without firing that round. So the 2nd live round is ejected.

It appears that he still has some trouble getting the slide to move forward after ejecting the 2nd live round. As he's moving toward the victim, he moves the pistol in front of his body and out of view of the camera. He may have pulled the slide back again and ejected the 3rd live round.

He continues to move toward the victim and takes the 3rd shot because the pistol appears to recoil. Immediately after the 3rd shot is taken the shooter lowers the pistol sufficiently, but in front of his body out of camera view, and apparently pulls the slide back again ejecting the 3rd empty casing.

Now that the 4th live round is chambered he continues to walk over to the victim as if to fire a 4th fatal round but makes his exit instead.

Remember to slow the video down all the way and let me know if you agree.



IMHO, I don' t think this was a professional hit man. If he did this for hire, he wasn't very good at it. If he was a professional, he would have closed the distance to the victim to the point of almost sticking the pistol in his back and firing one round then making a hasty exit.

Speaking of the first round; also notice that his first shot hit the victim in the left hip/leg. At that distance, an accomplished pistolero would have been able to hit the victim in the back. This was possibly caused by nervousness on the part of a first time assassin.

If he did have a suppressor with a Nielsen device he probably didn't take very good care of his equipment. He might have been practicing with it prior to the murder but didn't clean the gun or the suppressor.

Like I said earlier, he appears to be ensuring that the suppressor was on tight before firing the first round. How many of us can attest to our cans wanting to come unscrewed after a few rounds?

After you have gained some experience you learn to prevent the problems of suppressors coming unscrewed. Someone with more experience would have ensured the tightness of the suppressor even before coming on the scene so it would not have to be rechecked, wasting time and possibly compromising the mission.

So he likely had some experience with using the suppressor but not enough to be 100% confident at this point. Some of us experienced with using suppressed pistols have either mitigated the problem of them coming unscrewed with blue Loctite, plumber's tape or in some rare cases, Vibratite.

Also note the fact that he experienced three misfires! Amateur reloader? Really bad ammunition? Poorly designed or poorly maintained pistol causing a light primer strike? Who knows but if the shooter was a professional hit man, he was the lowest bidder for the job.



Very clear assessment. Thank you.




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You forgot
"He was a hero"

I don't see anybody crying for the dead fucker. That company was recently in the news for using an AI program to approve/deny claims, with their finger on the scale towards "deny", I think they also ripped off medicare advantage (IE stole our tax dollars). Meanwhile he gets 10mil a year.
 
I don't see anybody crying for the dead fucker. That company was recently in the news for using an AI program to approve/deny claims, with their finger on the scale towards "deny", I think they also ripped off medicare advantage (IE stole our tax dollars). Meanwhile he  GOT 10mil a year.

There, FIFY.
 
My favorite part of this website is watching people who demand evidence in other forums through muzzle velocity, group size, timer results etc, absolutely not demand evidence in The Bear Pit.
It's The Pit........that's what it's for.

Damn straight!!!

Looks like Stan didn’t get the memo about the Bear Pit. Among other things we got more hate than Chappel’s “Haters Ball” and more gang rape than a prison shower.
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A colleague thought it might have been a guy who's mother died after her claims were denied and they could not afford some procedure.

Another reason I do not think it is professional is because a pro, such as a mafia hit man, does not leave brass, ever, unless to set up someone else.

A mafia guy will use a .22 or .38 revolver (with light loads.) Fire at close range to contact range and not have any casings left, fired or unfired.
 
Well armed, very motivated individual who lost a family member due to non-coverage of treatment. And they will never find him.


Sure looks like it.

If this is a non-pro hit like you say, I think they will find him. He has left a ton of evidence. Leaving his nose out in those photos sure shows a lot about his facial structure.

Purportedly he left 3 spent casings and 3 live rounds with something written on them, at the scene.

Also a cell phone….😳

 
Sure looks like it.

If this is a non-pro hit like you say, I think they will find him. He has left a ton of evidence. Leaving his nose out in those photos sure shows a lot about his facial structure.

Purportedly he left 3 spent casings and 3 live rounds with something written on them, at the scene.

Also a cell phone….😳


Had not heard about the cell. That was not a good move...assuming it is his.
 
Sure looks like it.

If this is a non-pro hit like you say, I think they will find him. He has left a ton of evidence. Leaving his nose out in those photos sure shows a lot about his facial structure.

Purportedly he left 3 spent casings and 3 live rounds with something written on them, at the scene.

Also a cell phone….😳




Could be a decoy phone left behind to throw off his trail, and his exposed "face" might even be one of those ultra-realistic neoprene masks one can get at a stage actors' supply depot. Put a run of the mill COVID mask over that and you got the perfect setup to throw cameras off your trail.

On the other hand, he could have also been a terminally ill person whose final hopes for treatment had been denied and just doesn't give a fuck anymore. Or had been suffering in silence since a very beloved family member had been denied and died as a result some time ago and the daily seclusion and grief finally flipped the switch. It is fucking heartbreaking the more one dwells on this and imagine what was going on behind the scenes. There is a reason why public sympathy right now is unanimously with the shooter and not the dead guy.

ETA: This is happening at the same time as MAGA is getting prepared to ream the pharmaceutical and processed foodstuffs industry without lube. Medical insurance companies have just been put into the spotlight next to be investigated for all the fraud and shady business that could have been going on for the last God knows how many decades.
 
Also note the fact that he experienced three misfires! Amateur reloader? Really bad ammunition?
Limp wrist strikes again.
This is why gangsters wear their pants down below their ass. Makes gait analysis impossible.

Just guessing here, but there are likely 20M+ suspects in the database.
 
Limp wrist strikes again.

This is why gangsters wear their pants down below their ass. Makes gait analysis impossible.

Just guessing here, but there are likely 20M+ suspects in the database.
I hadn't thought about the limp wrist as he was using both hands and described as being over six feet tall. That would fit a person with sufficient strength to hold the pistol firmly enough for the slide to operate. You do make a good point but how does that explain the three misfired rounds? As someone stated earlier, one missfire may have been due to the failure of the trigger to reset but what about the other two?
 
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