Anybody else drank the Crossfit Koolaid?

[JBNj]

Want to get paid doing crossfit? Work at ups as a loader.
Lifting boxes for time? Check!
Hurdles over rollers while lifting boxes? Check
Thrusting endless boxes on top of each other? Check
Puddles of sweat? Check
Running back and forth up the trailers lifting hoisting thrusting boxes? Check.

Yea crossfit will make you ups strong.

 

[Gofaster23]

Cool story bro.

 

[chefcam864]

Super douche

 

[chefcam864]

Fuck the paleo diet. Matter of fact fuck every other diet out there too.

What ever happened to just eating a well balanced diet, staying away from processed foods and added sugar? That's all the fuck anyone needs.

Candid shot from a buddies gopro camera coming off of an obstacle during the Central Texas Tough Mudder May, 3 2014.

Yep, no fad bullshit diets here (or crossfit for that matter). I seem to be doing alright.

That's a bad look...

 

[pizzamanny]

Be careful with the mud races. We had a local one create a paraplegic.

 

[EasyGravy]

 

[Lazlo]

Be careful with the mud races. We had a local one create a paraplegic.

Unless you're familiar with the specifics of the incident I think you refer, I would strongly advise you to avoid generalizing that outcome to all mud runs/races. Unfortunate outcomes occur in any event that involves inherent physical risk.

 

[Darkside-Six]

Crossfit is like reverse fight club because the first rule of crossfit is to never shut the fuck up about crossfit!


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[Monchichi]

Crossfit Rule #1: Always talk about Crossfit.
Crossfit Rule #2: ALWAYS TALK ABOUT CROSSFIT!

 

[Doc Mongo]

You could get killed walkin' your doggy!

That's one of my favorite lines! I live by those words.

I will be starting crossfit sometime in the next week or two. Not sure what to expect, aside from what I've been reading here. Has anyone seen their run time improve by focusing on crossfit and not running? Or should I wait until after my PRT to start drinking that koolaid?

 

[BoilerUP]

"Crossfit Endurance"

 

[Doc Mongo]

Sprints are good, but yeah it sounds like I will be having some endurance days thrown in. Still, I'm looking forward to see what all the hype and hate is about

 

[BoilerUP]

I wouldn't mock the crossfit workout so easily.

I simply meant that the type of workout it is won't make you a long distance runner. HOWEVER, your sure as shit going to build some high intensity endurance.

Ummmmmmm...I wasn't "mocking the workout", I was simply pointing somebody who was interested in CF and distance running to the name of the appropriate Crossfit product, which was designed specifically to lower mid and long distance times as compared to the traditional Crossfit routine.

 

[FireShooter]

I am a firefighter for a small city. We have been doing crossfit workouts for almost 2 years now within our department. There are a lot of good points here about positives and negatives with crossfit. It definitely is not for everyone. When we began we were doing body weight interval WODs and slowly started incorporating the weight training into it. It is good for us because the WODs are fast and don't take several hours as we are only allotted an hour a day for fitness in our schedule. My brother has been doing body building workouts involving strictly compound lifts for the same amount of time. I beat him to deadlifting over 400 in just a few months, having never deadlifted regularly before starting crossfit I was very pleased. We have all seen a lot of gains in our physical strength, endurance and speed. One of our Assistant Chiefs had never been able to do pullups in his life, he is in his 30's and was able to do 8 on our PT test within 6 months of starting crossfit. We focus on doing good form pullups and try to minimize kipping and butterfly pullups that crossfit teaches. I ran my fastest time on our PT test which was 9:38 for 1.5 miles while doing crossfit. We have all run multiple 5k's as well, most of us were under the 25 minute mark. It is not going to prepare you for a marathon or triathlon, but you will be capable of running a reasonable distance without any trouble. There have been 3 injuries regarding fitness at our department, all within the past few months. 2 of them were due to improper form while deadlifting. Both instances were when guys were lifting for PR on their own, not during a WOD. The other was during a pickup game of football when the Assistant Chief tore a ligament in his ankle because he didn't stretch and turned wrong. I am not saying that crossfit is the best thing ever or the revolution of fitness. But it definitely will bring gains. If you are active accidents will happen. If you want to be massive and muscled it is not for you. If you want to be fit it will get the job done.

 

[Tyler455]

Eating is key. Eat ENOUGH calories , but eat GOOD calories. I try to eat 3000 calories a day. If I eat clean , whole, natural food, its actually hard to eat that much and I'm always full. Avoid sugar, except for after workouts when it actually helps the recovery process. The balanced 40/30/30 for macronutrients makes the most sense to me. Carbs are not bad for an athlete , bad carbs are bad. Muscles need carbs if that are being push to 110% at cross fit. Avoiding all carbs at that high intensity of training can induce too much stress hormones and actually be counterproductive. HAVE TO manage cortisol levels! Gotta love sweet potatoes and quinua .

As far as cross fit? Its a jack of trades, master of none and can be dangerous if one incorrectly( like anything else). You won't grow as much muscle as with a dedicated weightlifting program and you won't be a marathon runner. My box does a Crossfit football like routine. With that said, it is the best blend of strength, endurance, power, speed, agility I have ever been apart of. I've been a gym rat for most of my adult life and I have never been this lean and strong with this little amount of time working out. I used to cardio in the AM and Lift big in the afternoon. I never have to diet anymore . Diets suck. Just eat clean.

I am a former skeptic of CF. Not so much of the theory, cause the theories are well documented to work. I was skeptical on the ridiculous price it costs for a gym inside a steal building with some bumper plates and a bunch of pull up racks. I have grown to appreciate the competitive and supportive atmosphere. Thats what keeps people coming back to push themselves to the next level of fitness. It is really fun I must say, too.

 

[X-man21]

CF is very hard on the body. A lot of the folks here in CA are starting to realize that. There is only so much pounding the body can take before it starts to break down. In fact more and more people are getting back to the basics running, plyometrics, swimming,cycling and eating better.

 

[Infinity]

Eat plenty of clean calories. Drink lots of water (piss clear always). Get enough sleep and take rest days when you're sore.

SIT, I agree with pretty much everything you've said in this thread.

 

[Infinity]

(better judgement used)

 

[VJJPunisher]

NEW STUDY SHOWS DIRECT LINK BETWEEN CROSSFIT AND BEING A FEMALE DOUCHEBAG ? Hit the Woodline

 

[Ultraman550]

I hear Vitamin Cypionate and Vitamin Equipoise are also good for healing purposes.

 

[Josie]

Thanks guys. I appreciate it. Im still hanging in there grinding it out. Im down ti around 285 now so I can see a little improvment. Just gotta stay after it

BYS, congratulations dropping those lbs! Not to discourage you at all but what usually happens with people over weight that quickly drop a few pounds is that they will usually hit a plateau with their weight loss and get discouraged. Just remember this, if you take a 5 lb. shit in the morning, it doesn't mean your 5 lbs fitter. Sometime weight is irrelevant so please don't get caught up just in the weight loss. Try and define your fitness goals then do what will get you there in the most efficient and effective way. Definitely don't fall victim to the peer pressure at your gym and try to do something your not comfortable with.

Best advice I can give you:
- try to eat fresh unprocessed foods AND don't miss meals
- treat your nutrition as if your only fueling your workouts, keep metabolism high, so don't eat excessively or for pleasure (think 5-6 very small meals throughout the day)
- once MAYBE twice a week treat yourself to something very small (dessert wise) so you don't lose your mind
- practice perfect form
- consistency and intensity will be your best friend in your quest for fitness
- take care of your body daily, i.e. mobilty post/pre workout, light stretching while watching t.v., epsom salt baths and contrast baths when your body feel banged up

one other thing, the best way to lose weight is to lift weights, NOT cardio. Cardio is supplemental but you burn many many more calories lifting weights. Cardio will cause you to burn lots of muscle and some fat, essentially increasing your body fat in SOME circumstances. And lifting weights is way more fun the sludging away on a treadmill or around a track.

If you have any more questions feel free to PM me. Im CrossFit certified and USA Weightlifting certified if that helps earn a little bit of your trust.

Get thin in the kitchen and get fit in the gym. Good luck man, keep us posted

 

[Josie]

Yeah I do the box jumps just fine. I usually use the 20"box. I do suck at double unders. I'm fairly athletic for a big guy. I just need to trim off the extra weight. The ruck marching does indeed peel the weight off I have used it before when I was packing around a few extra pounds. I'm down about 8 lbs so far. Crossfit is by far the most practical workout I have ever done. I dont understand the deal with the kipping. I mean if I was still in the military and I needed to get myself up onto a platform or over some obstacle would it not be beneficial to know how to kip and do a muscle up to get yourself over. I guess most guys would just say well fuck I can't get myself over this obstacle with a strict pullup so I guess I'll just stay here and let the bad guys catch me. Nope I bet they would be kipping there ass off. Train like you fight

Kipping just allows you get more work done in a given amount of time and utilizes many more muscle (core, hips, and shoulder muscles) as apposed to doing strict pull-ups. Your analogy is spot on though using a kip to get over an obstacle when a strict movement isnt the most efficient way. Remember the structure of workouts that have lots of pull-ups programmed in allows you to get all the work in if you kip versus trying to do the strict movement. Also, the objective is to get your heart rate really elevated and thats not something you can really achieve doing a strict pull-up. You will achieve muscle failure before reaching an elevated HR. With that being said, you need to have enough basic strength to get a strict pull-up before you start stringing together a bunch of kipping pull-ups.

Just get with your coaches at the box and express to them your concerns and hopefully their decent enough people to keep you best interest in mind.

 

[JBNj]

Kipping just allows you get more work done in a given amount of time and utilizes many more muscle (core, hips, and shoulder muscles) as apposed to doing strict pull-ups. Your analogy is spot on though using a kip to get over an obstacle when a strict movement isnt the most efficient way. Remember the structure of workouts that have lots of pull-ups programmed in allows you to get all the work in if you kip versus trying to do the strict movement. Also, the objective is to get your heart rate really elevated and thats not something you can really achieve doing a strict pull-up. You will achieve muscle failure before reaching an elevated HR. With that being said, you need to have enough basic strength to get a strict pull-up before you start stringing together a bunch of kipping pull-ups.

Just get with your coaches at the box and express to them your concerns and hopefully their decent enough people to keep you best interest in mind.

Your statement confuses me. You say kippin recruits more muscles, only problem with that is, your taking a body weight workout strictly an upper back/bicep workout and spreading it over many muscles as you say. What happens is many more muscles are distributing your body weight. Only problem with that, is those muscles that are being used now are stronger than what effects kipping may introduce, so those muscles are not benefitting the workout as you may think. But wait a minute.... "I can do 100 kipping pull-ups in my workout." Going to failure is not required for muscle buildin and counter inducive to strength gains.

Than you go on to say one must have sufficient strength with strict pull-ups before kipping?? What?? Those who can do a strict pull up can kip. Those who can kip doesn't necessarily mean they can achieve a strict pull-up. Do you see where I am going with this?

Third we will talk briefly about kippin over an obstacle or usin a little body english. While the movement may be similar getting over an obstacle it doesn't mean more kipping to get better getting over said obstacle. Those with a strong back will get over an obstacle because it involves pulling. Kipping involves using momentum, which is makin it easier but not necessarily better for your muscles.

Now kipping is better used on rings (remeber glassman was involved with gymnast) and not a pull-up bar imo. Your arms and shoulders are in a more neutral position on rings. Making it a safer on your shoulder,ligaments, and joint. You run the risk of tearing your rotator cuff regardless

 

[Josie]

Your statement confuses me. You say kippin recruits more muscles, only problem with that is, your taking a body weight workout strictly an upper back/bicep workout and spreading it over many muscles as you say. What happens is many more muscles are distributing your body weight. Only problem with that, is those muscles that are being used now are stronger than what effects kipping may introduce, so those muscles are not benefitting the workout as you may think. But wait a minute.... "I can do 100 kipping pull-ups in my workout." Going to failure is not required for muscle buildin and counter inducive to strength gains.

Than you go on to say one must have sufficient strength with strict pull-ups before kipping?? What?? Those who can do a strict pull up can kip. Those who can kip doesn't necessarily mean they can achieve a strict pull-up. Do you see where I am going with this?

Third we will talk briefly about kippin over an obstacle or usin a little body english. While the movement may be similar getting over an obstacle it doesn't mean more kipping to get better getting over said obstacle. Those with a strong back will get over an obstacle because it involves pulling. Kipping involves using momentum, which is makin it easier but not necessarily better for your muscles.

Now kipping is better used on rings (remeber glassman was involved with gymnast) and not a pull-up bar imo. Your arms and shoulders are in a more neutral position on rings. Making it a safer on your shoulder,ligaments, and joint. You run the risk of tearing your rotator cuff regardless

Its all about the intent of the program. Are you using pull-ups (body weight exercises) for strength or for metabolic conditioning? Everything in these programs are designed to have a purpose. Anyone who says kipping has no place in the pursuit of fitness just doesn't understand the intent of the technique. And it is a technique. Its not swinging. Swinging is the absence of technique. Gymnast use kipping, they are the masters of body weight movements. CrossFit was branded by Gregg Glassman. His back ground involved gymnastics and gymnastics movements are substantially more athletic in nature that doing an exercise that isolates 1 or 2 muscles, such as a strict pull-up. Strict pull-ups are designed to build upper body pulling strength and will be annotated in the WOD if that is the intent. Otherwise you see them in a WOD like "Fran" that is 21-15-9 of Thrusters and Pull-ups. Fran is a conditioning workout, NOT a strength building workout. Its meant to be fast and efficient. Less developed athletes can do strict pull-ups but take much longer to finish the workout, but they still get lots of benefit and it gives them data for later on to test their progress. Once the athlete is more comfortable, proficient, and conditioned they will move onto the kipping technique, and finally to the butterfly technique. Thats all they are is techniques. It doesn't make them wrong or more or less beneficial than the other. They each serve an individual purpose.

The fastest way to tear your rotator cuff in a pull-up is to reach muscle failure and to drop to a dead hang. Yes, rings keep your shoulder in a more neutral position than a bar does but kipping on one vs. the other is better or worse. Its just a technique. Most of the movement involves the hips, if you have proper technique. What we all see is someone trying to learn the technique but instead swinging there asses off until it all clicks.

 

[Josie]

Dude, I've never heard a more valid sounding reason to kip. Only problem is that's all bullshit. Recruits many more muscles my ass. hahahahaha

Can't get your heart elevated doing strict pull ups?.....................what???

Yes, the structure of their workouts allows you to do the 100 required in the time allotted. Too bad that means exactly diddly shit when it comes
to building strength.



Your going to reach muscle failure doing strict pull-ups before your HR reaches +160.

The intent of those workouts are to build conditioning OR have the athlete be able to develop a strategy (game plan) on how he/she can do this many pull-ups in their goal time. Not intended to build strength, however, it is still a secondary objective. A few months ago I did 100 pull-ups for time in 9:05 and kipped all reps. I approached this workout as I was going to do 20 sets of 5 reps and rest for 5-10 seconds b/t each set of 5 so that I wouldn't reach failure too quickly. I did the same workout over a year ago in almost 13 minutes because I looked at it like I could do large sets and get a faster time (basically started sprinting right out of the gate in a marathon). Dude, I burned out in the first 40 reps and had to break up the reps more conservatively and my hands were trashed. By the last 15-20 reps I was doing singles and was smoked. So I approached it a little more conservatively the second time around, had a much faster time, was able to keep a consistent pace, and didn't feel so trashed afterwords. Everything in CrossFit has its place. Look at the way these athletes have developed and improved over each of the last 8 years. Its amazing! And the best thing CrossFit has done for our society is make the average Joe feel like part of the community and its increased the participation in Olympic lifting in the USA.

Trust me, I get all the hate that CrossFitters receive. Nothing drives me as crazy as having some little weasel with sweat bands, 70's tube socks pulled up to his knees, and wearing chuck taylors (basically hipsters) throwing around 95 lbs over his head with sloppy form and endangering himself and everyone around them. There are plenty of individuals out there that give the sport a bad rap but the bottom line, its a ton of fun to do, its great at getting people to step outside their comfort zones, and it is a very effective way to reach results. I love CrossFit, I just don't love the community of CrossFit if that make sense?

 

[BoilerUP]

Kipping sucks.

What is the point of saying "I did xx number of pullups" when you really didn't do a PULL UP, but rather a gymnastic-style movement that resulted in your body momentum assisting in, well, you pulling yourself up?

 

[JBNj]

Its all about the intent of the program. Are you using pull-ups (body weight exercises) for strength or for metabolic conditioning? Everything in these programs are designed to have a purpose. Anyone who says kipping has no place in the pursuit of fitness just doesn't understand the intent of the technique. And it is a technique. Its not swinging. Swinging is the absence of technique. Gymnast use kipping, they are the masters of body weight movements. CrossFit was branded by Gregg Glassman. His back ground involved gymnastics and gymnastics movements are substantially more athletic in nature that doing an exercise that isolates 1 or 2 muscles, such as a strict pull-up. Strict pull-ups are designed to build upper body pulling strength and will be annotated in the WOD if that is the intent. Otherwise you see them in a WOD like "Fran" that is 21-15-9 of Thrusters and Pull-ups. Fran is a conditioning workout, NOT a strength building workout. Its meant to be fast and efficient. Less developed athletes can do strict pull-ups but take much longer to finish the workout, but they still get lots of benefit and it gives them data for later on to test their progress. Once the athlete is more comfortable, proficient, and conditioned they will move onto the kipping technique, and finally to the butterfly technique. Thats all they are is techniques. It doesn't make them wrong or more or less beneficial than the other. They each serve an individual purpose.

The fastest way to tear your rotator cuff in a pull-up is to reach muscle failure and to drop to a dead hang. Yes, rings keep your shoulder in a more neutral position than a bar does but kipping on one vs. the other is better or worse. Its just a technique. Most of the movement involves the hips, if you have proper technique. What we all see is someone trying to learn the technique but instead swinging there asses off until it all clicks.

I just have to say WOW. The fastest way to tear your rotator cuff is going to failure into a dead hang? Really? Let's look at the two exercises and the motion your body is going through.
Strict pull up starting from a dead hang- your shoulders are feeling tension through out the lift, as you go up and down. Which is safe. The muscles that will fail first is most likely your grip/forearm/biceps. Yours shoulder is used as a supporting muscle through out the lift. This is safe. (Some people have pre existing shoulder injuries that they may or may not know about, due to muscle/strength imbalance from front delt to rear delt)

Kipping/butterfly technique - at a dead hang your shoulders are under tension. As you swing your lower half forward there is still tension on your shoulders. As your momentum carries your bottom half back is takes away tension in your shoulders for a brief moment. Your body acts like a pendulum moving around your shoulders. After your momentum stops, all that tension is slammed back into your shoulders. Not good. Compounded with 100 rep workouts youll pay the price when your older.

Kipping is a gymnast movement, but do you know why they do them? Do you think they actually train kipping and other half ass pull ups? Kipping is a basic movement for gymnast to get up and over without burning too much energy, so they can have more energy to complete their acrobatic act. Gymnasts may practice a little of kipping for form so they don't burn unnecessary energy but they actually strength train as in do real pull-ups and other strength routines. Kipping would be considered an explosive movement. By that definition there is no need to take an explosive movement for insane reps and is potentially harmful. The same for snatches and cleans.

There are other/better ways to build muscle endurance instead of thinking crossfit has reinvented fitness. The problem is a majority of the gym population have overinflated egos and don't have a clue how to achieve what they want. which is why they see very little gains if any. Some people don't want to learn and rather have someone else tell them what to do. The finess industry has been a financial pitiful as there is really nothing new when it comes to strength,endurance,cardio,etc for personal fitness trainers (not to be confused with strength and conditioning coaches people who actually have credentials in doing what they do. Atleast a cscs certification. Not crossfit certified or whatever other minor cert their is out there). Crossfit gives them a bigger profit for sure. Ill leave it at that, feel like I'm writing a freakin novel on my phone.

One thing to add, I would consider to do a wod as a see how i stand and amongst friends. It would be a dick measuring contest sorta like "hey how much you bench" type of thing . But I wouldn't train like a crossfitter.

 

[Josie]

I just have to say WOW. The fastest way to tear your rotator cuff is going to failure into a dead hang? Really? Let's look at the two exercises and the motion your body is going through.
Strict pull up starting from a dead hang- your shoulders are feeling tension through out the lift, as you go up and down. Which is safe. The muscles that will fail first is most likely your grip/forearm/biceps. Yours shoulder is used as a supporting muscle through out the lift. This is safe. (Some people have pre existing shoulder injuries that they may or may not know about, due to muscle/strength imbalance from front delt to rear delt)

Kipping/butterfly technique - at a dead hang your shoulders are under tension. As you swing your lower half forward there is still tension on your shoulders. As your momentum carries your bottom half back is takes away tension in your shoulders for a brief moment. Your body acts like a pendulum moving around your shoulders. After your momentum stops, all that tension is slammed back into your shoulders. Not good. Compounded with 100 rep workouts youll pay the price when your older.

Kipping is a gymnast movement, but do you know why they do them? Do you think they actually train kipping and other half ass pull ups? Kipping is a basic movement for gymnast to get up and over without burning too much energy, so they can have more energy to complete their acrobatic act. Gymnasts may practice a little of kipping for form so they don't burn unnecessary energy but they actually strength train as in do real pull-ups and other strength routines. Kipping would be considered an explosive movement. By that definition there is no need to take an explosive movement for insane reps and is potentially harmful. The same for snatches and cleans.

There are other/better ways to build muscle endurance instead of thinking crossfit has reinvented fitness. The problem is a majority of the gym population have overinflated egos and don't have a clue how to achieve what they want. which is why they see very little gains if any. Some people don't want to learn and rather have someone else tell them what to do. The finess industry has been a financial pitiful as there is really nothing new when it comes to strength,endurance,cardio,etc for personal fitness trainers (not to be confused with strength and conditioning coaches people who actually have credentials in doing what they do. Atleast a cscs certification. Not crossfit certified or whatever other minor cert their is out there). Crossfit gives them a bigger profit for sure. Ill leave it at that, feel like I'm writing a freakin novel on my phone.

One thing to add, I would consider to do a wod as a see how i stand and amongst friends. It would be a dick measuring contest sorta like "hey how much you bench" type of thing . But I wouldn't train like a crossfitter.

HAHA....you just do whatever it is you do for fitness and I'll continue to do what I do.

 

[Josie]

I just have to say WOW. The fastest way to tear your rotator cuff is going to failure into a dead hang? Really? Let's look at the two exercises and the motion your body is going through.
Strict pull up starting from a dead hang- your shoulders are feeling tension through out the lift, as you go up and down. Which is safe. The muscles that will fail first is most likely your grip/forearm/biceps. Yours shoulder is used as a supporting muscle through out the lift. This is safe. (Some people have pre existing shoulder injuries that they may or may not know about, due to muscle/strength imbalance from front delt to rear delt)

Kipping/butterfly technique - at a dead hang your shoulders are under tension. As you swing your lower half forward there is still tension on your shoulders. As your momentum carries your bottom half back is takes away tension in your shoulders for a brief moment. Your body acts like a pendulum moving around your shoulders. After your momentum stops, all that tension is slammed back into your shoulders. Not good. Compounded with 100 rep workouts youll pay the price when your older.

Kipping is a gymnast movement, but do you know why they do them? Do you think they actually train kipping and other half ass pull ups? Kipping is a basic movement for gymnast to get up and over without burning too much energy, so they can have more energy to complete their acrobatic act. Gymnasts may practice a little of kipping for form so they don't burn unnecessary energy but they actually strength train as in do real pull-ups and other strength routines. Kipping would be considered an explosive movement. By that definition there is no need to take an explosive movement for insane reps and is potentially harmful. The same for snatches and cleans.

There are other/better ways to build muscle endurance instead of thinking crossfit has reinvented fitness. The problem is a majority of the gym population have overinflated egos and don't have a clue how to achieve what they want. which is why they see very little gains if any. Some people don't want to learn and rather have someone else tell them what to do. The finess industry has been a financial pitiful as there is really nothing new when it comes to strength,endurance,cardio,etc for personal fitness trainers (not to be confused with strength and conditioning coaches people who actually have credentials in doing what they do. Atleast a cscs certification. Not crossfit certified or whatever other minor cert their is out there). Crossfit gives them a bigger profit for sure. Ill leave it at that, feel like I'm writing a freakin novel on my phone.

One thing to add, I would consider to do a wod as a see how i stand and amongst friends. It would be a dick measuring contest sorta like "hey how much you bench" type of thing . But I wouldn't train like a crossfitter.

HAHA....you just do whatever it is you do for fitness and I'll continue to do what I do.

 

[JBNj]

HAHA....you just do whatever it is you do for fitness and I'll continue to do what I do.

CrossFit Chin Up vs Rock climber + Gynmast. (FUNNY!) - YouTube

 

[Josie]

Cool example but it does nothing for your argument. That narrator gave 1 example and has 1 opinion. That's really it. Like I said YOU have control over what you want to do and I'll do the same. I can tell you that I'm the most fit now then I've ever been that includes when I played collegiate baseball and football and my 6.5 years in the mil. Those folks are specialist at what they do. Crossfitters intent is to try to be well rounded. I guarantee none of those athletes in your video can run a respectable 5K-10K, back squat 400#, clean 300#, probably can't even attempt an over head squat...ect ect.

Good day.

 

[rgrmike]

And I have cash money that says you can't back squat 400, clean 300 and run a respectable 10k.

And that's not internet shit talking.

I got cash money saying he can.

 

[rgrmike]

And I have cash money that says you can't back squat 400, clean 300 and run a respectable 10k.

And that's not internet shit talking.

How about $500 Video submission for the squat and clean, run will be to hard to verify.

 

[rgrmike]

How in the heck do I post videos on here.

 

[rgrmike]

Post Deleted.

 

[Josie]

And I have cash money that says you can't back squat 400, clean 300 and run a respectable 10k.

And that's not internet shit talking.

How do you want me to prove my 5 or 10K time to you, and what do you consider a respectable time? I have video of cleans (305#) and back squat (440# ass to grass) dated within 60 days. I'm running a 5K at Lake Norman State Park, Mooresville, NC on October 11th to benefit mothers who've lost children. I anticipate running the 5K in about 23 (ish) minutes. So if you want to register and join our community, we'd be happy to have you. 25$ registration fee and whatever money you want to give me for this bet I will give to the foundation. That's a promise! Below is a link for you to register.

https://www.facebook.com/runforheavenssake

runforheavenssake

Put your money where your mouth is pard!

 

[rgrmike]

Good deal.

We have this handled! The 5k can substitute for the 10k I was talking about. Though there's certainly a difference between running the two.

That'll do pig That'll do.

So is there a bet or are you going to crawfish now?

 

[rgrmike]

And what the hell, where are all you timmy tough tits at when it comes time for race day in texas?

I've got the tough mudder dallas and houston and the 1/2 marathon coming up soon and all my buds are hurt or have bullshit to go to like weddings.

I don't know about Texas. I do know when a man says he has "cash money" he better back it up and not crawfish out.

 

[rgrmike]

Damnit numb nuts.

It's fucking handled.

Dude, don't act all mad when you call someone out and then have to eat crow. Shit isn't "handled". You ran your suck talking about how something can't be done. I tried to accept your bet, posted it publicly, and now that you know you'll have to pay up you're crawfishing. So next time think before you start talking shit…numb nuts.

 

[rgrmike]

After I took my ASVAB they told me I could do whatever I wanted in the mil, so no, I didn't get a waiver. Still doesn't change the fact you ran your suck and got called out.
Texas Crawfish. I can't wait to go read your PM to Josie and see how it's "handled".

 

[Erud]

The fucking bet wasn't with you. Are you an asvab waiver or something?

As I said, numb nuts. Shit is handled.

It kind of seemed like the bet would be with him from here. Your post said " I've got cash money says Josie can't do X" and the very next post (from rgrmike) says he has cash money that says Josie can. Follow-up post suggested terms of the bet. Looked like a bet in the making to me.

So what's the bet that's handled between you and Josie? Since it was a challenge on a public forum, may as well keep the bet public, no?

 

[JBNj]

How do you want me to prove my 5 or 10K time to you, and what do you consider a respectable time? I have video of cleans (305#) and back squat (440# ass to grass) dated within 60 days. I'm running a 5K at Lake Norman State Park, Mooresville, NC on October 11th to benefit mothers who've lost children. I anticipate running the 5K in about 23 (ish) minutes. So if you want to register and join our community, we'd be happy to have you. 25$ registration fee and whatever money you want to give me for this bet I will give to the foundation. That's a promise! Below is a link for you to register.

https://www.facebook.com/runforheavenssake

runforheavenssake

Put your money where your mouth is pard!

Meh, your numbers are respectable. Not bad but not great either especially when accounting for all your years training. How much do you weigh if i may ask? When you say your in your best shape due to crossfit, are you forgetting your years training which has built you up to this point in your trainin life? I would guess your previous years is hugely responsible for where your at, and not crossfit. I would also say a respectable 5k would be right at the 20min or under. Typical average runners are doing the 5k in the 20-25 min mark. Crossfitters should do better being that they claim to be fitter. Winners usually fall in the 14-16 min mark.

For comparison purposes, after many years of being inactive i got my shit together and started training again. I went from a measly 185lb squat to 415lbs at a body weight of 148lbs within 1 year of training two years ago. I've also ran the 5k with brother in law at just under 20min without even training to run. Hardly any low intensity cardio was in my programming. My training has gone to shit after having my first kid and taking a second job, so no training for me now

Maybe just maybe my training protocol produced better results? Food for thought.

 

[BoilerUP]

I would also say a respectable 5k would be right at the 20min or under. Typical average runners are doing the 5k in the 20-25 min mark. Crossfitters should do better being that they claim to be fitter. Winners usually fall in the 14-16 min mark.

For comparison purposes, after many years of being inactive i got my shit together and started training again. I went from a measly 185lb squat to 415lbs at a body weight of 148lbs within 1 year of training two years ago. I've also ran the 5k with brother in law at just under 20min without even training to run. Hardly any low intensity cardio was in my programming. My training has gone to shit after having my first kid and taking a second job, so no training for me now

I've been seriously running for over a decade, to include numerous 10M/halfs and the Chicago Marathon, a countless 5K/10Ks....my 5K PR is 22:08.

If a "respectable" 5K is sub-6:30 miles then I guess I suck.

 

[Josie]

Meh, your numbers are respectable. Not bad but not great either especially when accounting for all your years training. How much do you weigh if i may ask? When you say your in your best shape due to crossfit, are you forgetting your years training which has built you up to this point in your trainin life? I would guess your previous years is hugely responsible for where your at, and not crossfit. I would also say a respectable 5k would be right at the 20min or under. Typical average runners are doing the 5k in the 20-25 min mark. Crossfitters should do better being that they claim to be fitter. Winners usually fall in the 14-16 min mark.

For comparison purposes, after many years of being inactive i got my shit together and started training again. I went from a measly 185lb squat to 415lbs at a body weight of 148lbs within 1 year of training two years ago. I've also ran the 5k with brother in law at just under 20min without even training to run. Hardly any low intensity cardio was in my programming. My training has gone to shit after having my first kid and taking a second job, so no training for me now

Maybe just maybe my training protocol produced better results? Food for thought.

Check this out dude, in the post that got all of this started about the rock climber, the gymnast, and the crossfitter doing their respectable pullups, I CLEARLY was making the comparison that I thought the rock climber and gymnast were "specialist" at what they do and that they most likely are not well rounded athletes. My comparison is that competitive CrossFitters ARE well rounded and that the athletes in that example MOST LIKELY are not. The 300# clean, 400# squat, 500# deadlift, 325# bench press, 275# clean & jerk, 225# snatch, and a respectable 5-10K times (8 min/mile or better) are examples of what a well rounded athlete is. End of fucking story guy.

Any little ole fella in the world can sit in his grandma's basement CLAIMING all the things he can do. But unless you want to confirm that shit right here right now on this public forum go pound sand. PROVE it, or you can meet me somewhere on the East Coast here in mid October and we'll let our brothers in arms here on the hide decide what the physical conditioning test is and we'll go head to head. And lets add a stress shoot to it while our heart rate is 175 bpm. I'll tell you right now pard, I work with some hard pipe hitting bro's over here who workout 365 day a year and aren't as well rounded athletes as you CLAIM to be. I'm calling you a fucking liar right now bud. There was no reason to get personal about all this as its just opinions but now you have to chime in and act a fool. Post your shit here today or get back to playing World of Witch Craft or D&D.

Just so you know an 18min 3 mile time is 100% on the Marines PT test and not every one of those Devil Dogs score that high. To meet the Ranger standard you must run 5 miles in under 40 mins, average 8 min mile. A High Bar Back Squat full range of motion is hip joint below the knee. So don't go loading that bar up and just bend your knees a little and call that a fucking squat guy. I want to see your little 150 pound ass parallel squat 415#. Go look up Chris Spealler and tell me your more fit than he is.......even a better question, why haven't you been WINNING those CrossFit Games and earning that $250K prize money + all the endorsements. Give me a break, go troll somewhere else you fuckin hobbit.

To answer your question, I'm 5'9" 190lbs and 35 years old. AND never have taken steroids or and other illegal performance enhancer just in case that is your next claim or accusation.

 

[Josie]

I've been seriously running for over a decade, to include numerous 10M/halfs and the Chicago Marathon, a countless 5K/10Ks....my 5K PR is 22:08.

If a "respectable" 5K is sub-6:30 miles then I guess I suck.

Man, I would love to earn that time but I don't see it in my near future haha. Congratulations on those times though!

If you are anywhere near Charlotte, NC we would love to have you run in a charity 5K that my wife is hosting. The links for registration are in one of the above posts.

 

[senna.bra]

I been doing CF since 2009. I am 40 now and my life changed for the better. it worked for me, but I also embraced a lifestyle change with good diet. I feel good, and look good too.

Just to shared some information, you need to find what works for you. This worked for me...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O6XV-5kYUU

 

[0311 Hesco]

Well this thread is an abortion...glad I stopped in...not

 

[JBNj]

I've been seriously running for over a decade, to include numerous 10M/halfs and the Chicago Marathon, a countless 5K/10Ks....my 5K PR is 22:08.

If a "respectable" 5K is sub-6:30 miles then I guess I suck.

"Respectable" is subjective and was more geared to the crossfitter who thinks crossfit is producing the "fittest man". With that said surely a crossfitter should do better than an average runner. Won't comment on your results without knowing the full picture of your training. And I won't get into genetic limits.

My post wasn't meant to brag about my personal accomplishments. Just to put things into perspective. I would like to see results for average joe couch potato with 1 year of training crossfit to see where they stand against a well balance strength routine.(when I say well balanced strength routine im not talking liftin like a powerlifter, but taking some key points from powerlifters and applying it with other training protocols.) imo strength is probally the most important attribute when it comes to fitness and has a trickle down effect into other areas of fitness. Afterall a muscle that requires less energy to complete a task is more efficient.

 

[JBNj]

Check this out dude, in the post that got all of this started about the rock climber, the gymnast, and the crossfitter doing their respectable pullups, I CLEARLY was making the comparison that I thought the rock climber and gymnast were "specialist" at what they do and that they most likely are not well rounded athletes. My comparison is that competitive CrossFitters ARE well rounded and that the athletes in that example MOST LIKELY are not. The 300# clean, 400# squat, 500# deadlift, 325# bench press, 275# clean & jerk, 225# snatch, and a respectable 5-10K times (8 min/mile or better) are examples of what a well rounded athlete is. End of fucking story guy.

Any little ole fella in the world can sit in his grandma's basement CLAIMING all the things he can do. But unless you want to confirm that shit right here right now on this public forum go pound sand. PROVE it, or you can meet me somewhere on the East Coast here in mid October and we'll let our brothers in arms here on the hide decide what the physical conditioning test is and we'll go head to head. And lets add a stress shoot to it while our heart rate is 175 bpm. I'll tell you right now pard, I work with some hard pipe hitting bro's over here who workout 365 day a year and aren't as well rounded athletes as you CLAIM to be. I'm calling you a fucking liar right now bud. There was no reason to get personal about all this as its just opinions but now you have to chime in and act a fool. Post your shit here today or get back to playing World of Witch Craft or D&D.

Just so you know an 18min 3 mile time is 100% on the Marines PT test and not every one of those Devil Dogs score that high. To meet the Ranger standard you must run 5 miles in under 40 mins, average 8 min mile. A High Bar Back Squat full range of motion is hip joint below the knee. So don't go loading that bar up and just bend your knees a little and call that a fucking squat guy. I want to see your little 150 pound ass parallel squat 415#. Go look up Chris Spealler and tell me your more fit than he is.......even a better question, why haven't you been WINNING those CrossFit Games and earning that $250K prize money + all the endorsements. Give me a break, go troll somewhere else you fuckin hobbit.

To answer your question, I'm 5'9" 190lbs and 35 years old. AND never have taken steroids or and other illegal performance enhancer just in case that is your next claim or accusation.

First your right the discussion was originally about kipping. And how glassman studied gymnasts, branded crossfit yada yada. He is also fat and doesn't train what he preaches but a bunch of yahoos rave how it's the best thing. The video was to demonstrate the gymnast doing a 1finger pull-up and the strength required. Pretty impressive. Your right anybody can lay claim to anything they want without proof. I wasn't trying to attack you as some of your other posts leave me to believe you have a good foundation of knowledge, but my logical thinking kicks in when I'm questioning a subject. The only proof i have is not really proof. Videos of my 6month mark in my training aren't going to show you what i claim. But it would be foolish to think i didn't accomplish those lifts 6 months later. I'm not here to have a dick measuring contest. You claim to be well rounded or try to be through crossfit. I just feel there are better ways to go about it and still produce better results without the additional risk of injury. Bottom line your doing something that you enjoy so keep it up. And I won't stoop to the level of insults cause it doesn't solve a dam thing. We both strive to be a better us. We will follow different paths and agree to disagree on certain matters. Good day to you sir.

Edit to add, I asked about your weight not for illegal enhancer concerns. I personally don't believe in any supplement legal or illegal. Diet is everything. I was asking your weight for strength standard comparisons. http://www.exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/StrengthStandards.htm

 

[rgrmike]

Meh, your numbers are respectable. Not bad but not great either especially when accounting for all your years training. How much do you weigh if i may ask? When you say your in your best shape due to crossfit, are you forgetting your years training which has built you up to this point in your trainin life? I would guess your previous years is hugely responsible for where your at, and not crossfit. I would also say a respectable 5k would be right at the 20min or under. Typical average runners are doing the 5k in the 20-25 min mark. Crossfitters should do better being that they claim to be fitter. Winners usually fall in the 14-16 min mark.

For comparison purposes, after many years of being inactive i got my shit together and started training again. I went from a measly 185lb squat to 415lbs at a body weight of 148lbs within 1 year of training two years ago. I've also ran the 5k with brother in law at just under 20min without even training to run. Hardly any low intensity cardio was in my programming. My training has gone to shit after having my first kid and taking a second job, so no training for me now

Maybe just maybe my training protocol produced better results? Food for thought.

Dude….Do you know what a squat is?

Rich Froning: has a listed 455lb back squat.
Matt Fraser: 485lb back squat.
Jason Khalipa: 450lb back squat.
Tommy Hackenbruck: 525 back squat.
Ben Smith: 480lb back squat.

These guys all finished in the top 10 in the WORLD at the Crossfit Games. None of them weigh less than 180lbs. Performance counts, talk is cheap. They had to successful navigate the open and regionals which is no easy task. Just to make it to regionals is a huge accomplishment. I can tell you from experience that having a 400lb legit, below parallel back squat is no joke. Anybody can put a bunch of weight on a bar, get underneath it and drop 4" and say they "squatted" it. Then they get laughed out of the room by the guys who actually know what they're doing.

I would think someone with your superior genetics, training discipline, and motivation should go to the games next year and win all of that prize money. At 148 lbs you should be able to crush everyone in all the bodyweight exercises. With your impressive lifting numbers I'm sure you'll shock the crowd… HAHA




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