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Anyone else had lingering effects after Covid?
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They cant, noone can, so you check sources. If you want ten diffrent sources confirming those, they aren't hard to find and its not news articles citing news articles its years of studies and observation. That is basic pre 2020 medical science though. It may have been superceded by pretend medical science.
after thinking about this long and hard I did come up with a side effect I get just the worst gas known to man when ever I see , hear , or think about the government and it's lies the news also causes this but there my one side effect .
My sense of smell has never really come back. That happens from other things to though. My brothers wife's brother had heart problems diagnosed shorty after getting COVID, but he is pretty overweight 50 and the family has history of heart problems. This was before the vaccine. But also when everything was COVID.
I am in a gap until my MC kicks in, and I have never received worse care in my life. I won't get into details, buts its almost as if all of my past history from experts at the best places didn't matter at all. The apathy is unreal. I thought since I found a doc wih a Bible in his waiting room who knew what an S&B as I might be OK...but he can't fight the system.
Could you cite a source for that?
Transmissibility and transmission of respiratory viruses - PMC
Human respiratory virus infections lead to a spectrum of respiratory symptoms and disease severity, contributing to substantial morbidity, mortality and economic losses worldwide, as seen in the COVID-19 pandemic. Belonging to diverse families, ...www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Respiratory viruses can be transmitted via four major modes of transmission: direct (physical) contact, indirect contact (fomite), (large) droplets and (fine) aerosols.
How Adenovirus Spreads | CDC
Adenovirus can spread to others through close personal contact such ask shaking hands, coughing, sneezing or via objects. Some can get infected during diaper changing or in swimming pools.www.cdc.gov
Adenoviruses are usually spread from an infected person to others through
- close personal contact, such as touching or shaking hands
- the air by coughing and sneezing
- touching an object or surface with adenoviruses on it, then touching your mouth, nose, or eyes before washing your hands
- Some adenoviruses can spread through an infected person’s stool, for example, during diaper changing. Adenovirus can also spread through the water, such as swimming pools, but this is less common.
I may have got the viruses crossed, I was referring to the cold, which can be caused by adenovrius, but primarily the rhinovirus. The study I read on cold virus transmissibility concluded that fomite transmission was not the cause of infection. I can't find the exact one I read and the only pages I can find that may be a reference to that study are on news sites behind a paywall.
TLDR study: people who were infected played cards and ate snacks from a bowl in a room for several hours. Then the sick people left the room and were replaced with healthy people who played with the same deck of cards and ate the same snacks. None of those healthy individuals got sick. Then they had sick and healthy people play cards in the same room together, while the healthy people had their hands restrained in a manner that they could not touch their faces and they all got sick. I'm going from memory, but the basic conclusion was that fomite transmission was not a factor.
I'm not aware of any similar studies involving covid which confirm that fomite transmission is a risk. IME though, it's not a factor. Being around sick individuals, regardless of how much hand sanitizer you use, presents the highest risk of getting infected.
ETA: I'd take anything the CDC says with a grain of salt these days.
I hear this a lot; however, this was a big deal; back in 2016 too:
Sudden Cardiac Death in Athletes
There are clear health benefits to exercise; even so, patients with cardiac conditions who engage in exercise and athletic competition may on rare occasion experience sudden cardiac death (SCD). This article reviews the epidemiology and common causes ...
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not arguing the other covid shit - i don't do masks nor the shots.
I've had the 'vid twice now. First time was mostly a non-event - felt off for a couple of days then just massively tired for a week. Second round recently left me in worse shape with lingering respiratory issues for 2-3 months. I'm in very good health so was surprised and concerned with the long recovery - sucked but better now.
Went on a week long fishing trip a few weeks ago with a buddy who is chief of cardiology at a well respected hospital so I picked his brain on the topic. They (his place and leaders in cardiology withwhom he collaborates) are watching the aftermath closely and seeing a few things that were interesting. As we know, the vax doesn't prevent transmission and they do see ocasional issues in patients from the vax though they are not notably greater than with other vaccines. The more serious long-term issues are with non-vax patients and they are continuing to monitor and increase their understanding in this area. Overall - the vax does not prevent transmission so you may still get it but they are seeing significantly less severity of illness / longer term complications in patients with the vax. Any long term issues are often complicated by other health issues most commonly obesity (borderline or morbid).
A related take-away, my next door neighbor is a Doc who has been working in mRNA research for decades (for cancer treatment - not 'vid) so the technology is far from "new" but he did suggest Ivermectin FWIW.
Just passing on the perspective from actual docs - carry on...
Went on a week long fishing trip a few weeks ago with a buddy who is chief of cardiology at a well respected hospital so I picked his brain on the topic. They (his place and leaders in cardiology withwhom he collaborates) are watching the aftermath closely and seeing a few things that were interesting. As we know, the vax doesn't prevent transmission and they do see ocasional issues in patients from the vax though they are not notably greater than with other vaccines. The more serious long-term issues are with non-vax patients and they are continuing to monitor and increase their understanding in this area. Overall - the vax does not prevent transmission so you may still get it but they are seeing significantly less severity of illness / longer term complications in patients with the vax. Any long term issues are often complicated by other health issues most commonly obesity (borderline or morbid).
A related take-away, my next door neighbor is a Doc who has been working in mRNA research for decades (for cancer treatment - not 'vid) so the technology is far from "new" but he did suggest Ivermectin FWIW.
Just passing on the perspective from actual docs - carry on...
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Yup. Got to pump up those sagging Pfizer numbers.
Plus, elections are harder to steal without mail-in voting.
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@Herb Stoner
"Overall - the vax does not prevent transmission so you may still get it but they are seeing significantly less severity of illness / longer term complications in patients with the vax."
So, people that have been vaxxed are seeing longer term complications?
"Overall - the vax does not prevent transmission so you may still get it but they are seeing significantly less severity of illness / longer term complications in patients with the vax."
So, people that have been vaxxed are seeing longer term complications?
Not exactly. What is being is conveyed is; when comparing those that have contracted Covid-19, those that are unvaccinated experience (on average) a more severe illness and more long term complications from that illness than those that did receive the vax.
”Less severity” applies to both terms, illness and complications.
But how do they know? You can’t prove a negative.
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But how do they know? You can’t prove a negative.
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Yeah, well, a vaxed person may experience a shorter duration of Covid but as far as long term complications, do you rest easier knowing you blindly trusted Dr. Fauxi and software pirate, Bill Gates, secret snake oil?
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I'd rather remain a pureblood and survive the virus with the possibility of a little longer after effects than to play Russian Roulette with an unproven drug that has had far more serious consequences up to and including death. A few in my circle of friends got the vax for one reason or another. 2 of them died from it and some others are still fighting side effects. The living ones that got at least one vax shot all say they wish they had never taken it.
No shit.
Crazy tin foil types have been talking about a man made plandemic since at least '89 and a forced vax, turning purebloods into non compliers, locked out of society and considered a health threat.
But lets line up and get the latest vax thirty four years after we were warned. LMAO.
The vax causes a shorter duration of illness. Better go get boosted for the new variant then. Remebner effectiveness wains. When you first go it, it was 100% safe and effective. Vaccinated people couldn't even catch and spread. Now where are we? Oh ya, another lie about taking the shot meaning you will get "less sick."
The C19 shot was never "challenge tested" in the lab with animals (like ALL other vaccine trials). It's considered unethical to use humans in challenge testing in vaccine trials.
In 2012 and 2016, mRNA COVID-SARS vaccine trials included challenge testing. In 100% of the (animal) subjects, ADE (antibody dependent enhancement) was observed. Accordingly, those trials were terminated.
So, this time, they effectively used the public as challenge testing subjects - mind you without the controls available in the lab setting.
And here we are...
In 2012 and 2016, mRNA COVID-SARS vaccine trials included challenge testing. In 100% of the (animal) subjects, ADE (antibody dependent enhancement) was observed. Accordingly, those trials were terminated.
So, this time, they effectively used the public as challenge testing subjects - mind you without the controls available in the lab setting.
And here we are...
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Bill Gates "challenge tested" the vaxine on kids in Africa and it was a success. It killed them.
Interdasting.
One post says the vaccine was not challenge tested in animals, so an untested vaccine was released and used.
The very next post claims it was challenge tested (in humans) in 2016, so according to that post the vaccine had been challenge tested prior to release and use.
I’m so confused.
One post says the vaccine was not challenge tested in animals, so an untested vaccine was released and used.
The very next post claims it was challenge tested (in humans) in 2016, so according to that post the vaccine had been challenge tested prior to release and use.
I’m so confused.
@Racer88 stated “In 2012 and 2016, mRNA COVID-SARS vaccine trials included challenge testing. In 100% of the (animal) subjects, ADE (antibody dependent enhancement) was observed. Accordingly, those trials were terminated.”
I believe @Racer88 is referring to SARS-COVID-1.
SARS-COVID-1 officially was identified in 2002 and died off on it‘s own 2004.
MERS-COV (Middle Eastern Respiratory Syndrome) 2012-2014.
SARS-COV-2 is from 2019 forward.
None of the drug companies/medical research centers/governments were ever able to develop a vaccine for SARS-COV-1 deploying multiple vaccine technologies all the way thru 2016. I’ll see if I can fInd various articles I saved on the history of it and link them.
No vaccine ever developed for MERS-COV either.
I don’t remember reading any prior articles/research docs on vaccine trials using MRNA technologies for SARS-COVID-1. Not saying it didn’t happen just don‘t recall.
Either way it’s interesting to note that from my recollection, after decades of research not one entity was able to develop a vaccine for SARS-COV-1 nor MERS-COV yet they developed a SARS-COV-2 in 6 months with limited human safety trials. Plus Moderna and Pfizer were given legal waivers against being sued and are protected from product liability regarding the COVID-19 vaccines.
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The point being that similar vaccines (mRNA) to related viruses were developed and FULLY tested - and failed due to ADE observed in challenge testing. The C19 vaccine was NOT challenge tested (on animals) before deploying it publicly. The fact that it was not thusly tested SHOULD have been public knowledge and included as part of Informed Consent. It wasn't and still isn't, generally speaking.
For starters.... Enjoy...
Immunization with SARS coronavirus vaccines leads to pulmonary immunopathology on challenge with the SARS virus - PubMed
These SARS-CoV vaccines all induced antibody and protection against infection with SARS-CoV. However, challenge of mice given any of the vaccines led to occurrence of Th2-type immunopathology suggesting hypersensitivity to SARS-CoV components was induced. Caution in proceeding to application of...
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Antibody Dependent Enhancement Due to Original Antigenic Sin and the Development of SARS
Human coronavirus (HCoV) is one of the most common causes of respiratory tract infections throughout the world. Two phenomena observed so far in the development of the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic deserve further attention. First, the relative absence of clinical ...
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This.
Overall they are seeing less long-term complications and severity of disease from patients who had the vax. Its not 100% and they are still looking at these trends. It does not mean that everyone with no vax that contracts the disease is going to have issues. Nor dies it mean the vax means one will not have serious complication from contracting the disease.
Again - no opinion or suggestion here - just passing on what I gleened from a couple of docs I know personally that are in the middle of it.
This Informed Consent never happened. This information has been intentionally suppressed.
(image links to published report)
And when information (that conflicts with the narrative) is suppressed or even PUNISHED, you can be SURE they are lying to us.
When I pointed this out, with ACTUAL scientific references... I was excoriated, shouted down, death wishes, banished from family relatives, lost friendships, etc. And literally not one of those people would read the referenced literature I had on hand. Not a single one. Instead, they called ME "stupid."
(image links to published report)
And when information (that conflicts with the narrative) is suppressed or even PUNISHED, you can be SURE they are lying to us.
When I pointed this out, with ACTUAL scientific references... I was excoriated, shouted down, death wishes, banished from family relatives, lost friendships, etc. And literally not one of those people would read the referenced literature I had on hand. Not a single one. Instead, they called ME "stupid."
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I'm reposting this comment, this time with links to citations.
Consider that the #1 spender of lobbying money in the U.S. is the pharmaceutical industry... $375 MM in 2022. That was $150MM more than the #2 industry. So, pharma leads by a WIDE margin.
Within the pharma industry, care to guess who the biggest individual corporate spender (on lobbying) is??
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Pfizer, of course... at $13MM.
Consider that the media and politicians perpetually cast aspersions against the "evil gun lobby" as having a financial stranglehold on congress. But not a peep about Pharma or Pfizer.
Uh-huh... The ENTIRE gun industry lobby spent... ironically.... the same amount, $13MM in 2022. In 2022, the "evil" NRA spent a mere $2.6MM... down from the previous long-standing average of $5MM / year.
So, who REALLY has a "stranglehold" on congress, eh? Why aren't the media and politicians crowing about the HUGE financial influence of big pharma over congress, like they do with the gun lobby?? Hmmmm.... Yeah, we know why.
Consider that the #1 spender of lobbying money in the U.S. is the pharmaceutical industry... $375 MM in 2022. That was $150MM more than the #2 industry. So, pharma leads by a WIDE margin.
Within the pharma industry, care to guess who the biggest individual corporate spender (on lobbying) is??
.....
Pfizer, of course... at $13MM.
Consider that the media and politicians perpetually cast aspersions against the "evil gun lobby" as having a financial stranglehold on congress. But not a peep about Pharma or Pfizer.
Uh-huh... The ENTIRE gun industry lobby spent... ironically.... the same amount, $13MM in 2022. In 2022, the "evil" NRA spent a mere $2.6MM... down from the previous long-standing average of $5MM / year.
So, who REALLY has a "stranglehold" on congress, eh? Why aren't the media and politicians crowing about the HUGE financial influence of big pharma over congress, like they do with the gun lobby?? Hmmmm.... Yeah, we know why.
Bill Gates had been fucking around in Africa with vaccines for awhile.
Not this one but others.
Pretty sure he caused a lot of infertility in a few places.
Think India has some concerns about his good works also.
None of it Cv 19 related, unless it was covid 29 related.
If you’re still going to a quack medical doctor and not the village shaman you deserve the “malpractice” death you’re cruising towards.
60 years old , not vaxed , never will be , when i get sick i call it the good old fashion flu , ever stop to think why after centuries we have never been able to eradicate enfluenza , but magically when so called COVID shows up the Flu was almost non existent , its because your government was doing a test run on how compliant the masses would be when directed to be controlled by them , they were taking stats and skewng stats to their favor to instill fear in order to coax people to get stabbed by some rushed concoction that did not even come close to satiusfying drug deveopment protocols that every other drug has to undergo
They corrupted the media and use it as a brainwashing tool to inject all kinds of mind controlling lies and propoganda into Americans heads.
Why, how? Because people trusted the media, just like they trust the medical proffession and their doctor. So why wouldn't the next tool of delivery of lies and brainwashing be the most trusted proffession?
And didn't funeral homes find strange ropey, worm masses clogging the veins and arteries of vaxed people they were embalming?
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I think it goes well beyond that in the media. Look at the programming. Everything is despair porn, where a catastrophe happens and instead of working together to fix the problem like we always have. It turns straight into a tribal feudal system, where everyone is waring for resources that noone is making.
So, didn’t read much of the overall thread. Figured I’d share my recent experience. Wife and I got the bug originally, kicked my ass, she was pretty much fine. There’ve been a myriad of different symptoms mostly on her end that she refused to go to the doctor for. Finally ended up with a really great Christian primary care outfit that doesn’t deal with insurance etc…. Long story short they put her on a long haul COVID protocol of ivermectin, prednisone and naltrexone. If youdve listed out her symptoms, there were 25+ and none made sense. No one could help her. 18 days in and she’s back to her old self. I’m now convinced that so many of the “tired, achy, head fog, irritability, lack of energy…” is long haul COVID. The doc said that they have a near 100% success rate.
