To avoid sending it off so i can continue to shoot i was wondering if anyone had adjusted theirs? I'm at 1.5/1.6bls on the second stage but really want to go down to 1lb.
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Anyone ever adjusted a Huber?
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They'll do it for free and I've got no idea what they use to lock adjustments in place.
If you dick with it you're asking for problems. This is how NDs happen. It's not meant to be user adjustable. Maybe look into a triggertech or timney if you want to change things up yourself.
I like to DIY too but I wouldn't dick with mine, I'd send it overnight if necessary and pay for the return if you have a match coming up or something. They're solid people they'll help you if you have a time crunch.
If you dick with it you're asking for problems. This is how NDs happen. It's not meant to be user adjustable. Maybe look into a triggertech or timney if you want to change things up yourself.
I like to DIY too but I wouldn't dick with mine, I'd send it overnight if necessary and pay for the return if you have a match coming up or something. They're solid people they'll help you if you have a time crunch.
If I was holding mine in my hand I could talk you through it. Actually really simple. If you call them, the man himself will walk you through it, like he did me.
I had john adjust it once guess i could send it off again. I do have a backup TT but it doesn't fit in the Mini-chassis. I could take a dremel to it though.
please......Hubber isnt doing anything magical in his triggers.....its a simple machine
if its safe to adjust a timney....its safe to adjust a Hubber.
NDs happen because people dont know how to test guns for mechanical safety....and dont know how to handle guns properly.
Never said they were magical, I said they're not designed to be user adjustable.
Probably has something to do with ... "NDs happen because people dont know how to test guns for mechanical safety....and dont know how to handle guns properly."
Most people that start dicking with their trigger don't know WTF they're doing and create a dangerous situation. YouTube does not a trigger expert make.
Timney has lock nuts on their adjustment screws, triggertech has a detent, all to make sure whatever adjustments are made... don't loosen and move on their own.
If Huber just thread locks or uses some kind of gummy paste or polymer to hold settings, and the end user breaks it by adjusting it...what keeps it from moving? Certainly not your superior attitude.
That's more on the plate than most are ready for. I'm glad you're a pro, but that wasn't his question.
Probably has something to do with ... "NDs happen because people dont know how to test guns for mechanical safety....and dont know how to handle guns properly."
Most people that start dicking with their trigger don't know WTF they're doing and create a dangerous situation. YouTube does not a trigger expert make.
Timney has lock nuts on their adjustment screws, triggertech has a detent, all to make sure whatever adjustments are made... don't loosen and move on their own.
If Huber just thread locks or uses some kind of gummy paste or polymer to hold settings, and the end user breaks it by adjusting it...what keeps it from moving? Certainly not your superior attitude.
That's more on the plate than most are ready for. I'm glad you're a pro, but that wasn't his question.
I mean if he just pointed out what screws adjust what like a BnA i'd have been fine adjusting it and locking it down with thread locker. I couldn't get over that tension in the first stage though. So it's in the accessories PX. I'm going back to single stage triggers. Can't seem to find what i'm looking for with 2-stages in a 700 or 700 clone. Tired of running through them. So TT diamond here i come.
My Mini Cooper was never intend to make 350whp either.... but I adjusted some settings.... and boom, it’s making that Hp safely.
I don’t care what the manfs “intentions” are..... their policies are largely run by lawyers anyways.
There’s nothing special about the goo they put in the screw holes.... any loctite will do the same thing.
It’s not fucking rocket surgery .... and you don’t have to be a “pro “
Just because some regards can’t.... doesn’t mean the rest of us shouldnt
I don't mean this as an attack on anyone, just an observation. Everyone uses their guns differently, and if you just want a range toy, to go from case to bench and back, well, that's outside of my experience and interest.
It kind of amazes me what people think makes a good trigger these days. I know many PRS guys like 8oz triggers, but please. The fundamentals of shooting are way more useful, and safer, than having these ultra light triggers. I have triggers as low as about 2#'s, but would prefer them to stop at about 2.5. I have other triggers in the 4# range, and though that is probably too heavy for a precision rifle, it still works out ok.
I think too many guys that are new to shooting will see threads like this one and instead of learning to shoot properly and safely, they think they need a 1# trigger. All I see are problems with that line if thought, and I'm the furthest thing from a lawyer.
It kind of amazes me what people think makes a good trigger these days. I know many PRS guys like 8oz triggers, but please. The fundamentals of shooting are way more useful, and safer, than having these ultra light triggers. I have triggers as low as about 2#'s, but would prefer them to stop at about 2.5. I have other triggers in the 4# range, and though that is probably too heavy for a precision rifle, it still works out ok.
I think too many guys that are new to shooting will see threads like this one and instead of learning to shoot properly and safely, they think they need a 1# trigger. All I see are problems with that line if thought, and I'm the furthest thing from a lawyer.
Where did i imply that fundamentals weren’t important? I’ve been doing this going on a decade and many much longer that just prefer around a 1-1.5lbs. . 1-2lb is where i usually sit. I'm not advocating light triggers for anyone else, i'm simply asking if i could get the huber to where i wanted it without sending it off again.
What i think makes a good two stage trigger is a proper wall at the second stage which the Huber has. But the tension of the first stage drives me insane. It might not for you. It’s a preference nothing more, i think you're conflating separate issues. You're right that fundamentals do matter, absolutely they do, but to act as if people who shoot light triggers lack fundamentals is well just ignorant. Also no disrespect intended but less you're going to war with your weapon please drop the whole range toy talk. This is a hobby, an enjoyment, if you're deployed i understand your concern, if not your statement is just redundant. This is a luxury for 99% of us.
Most of the triggers in discussion have been proven in competition time and time again. I get your point but the threads intention was asking if i could adjust the Huber myself rather than sending it to John again. Not swaying people one way or another on light triggers.
What i think makes a good two stage trigger is a proper wall at the second stage which the Huber has. But the tension of the first stage drives me insane. It might not for you. It’s a preference nothing more, i think you're conflating separate issues. You're right that fundamentals do matter, absolutely they do, but to act as if people who shoot light triggers lack fundamentals is well just ignorant. Also no disrespect intended but less you're going to war with your weapon please drop the whole range toy talk. This is a hobby, an enjoyment, if you're deployed i understand your concern, if not your statement is just redundant. This is a luxury for 99% of us.
Most of the triggers in discussion have been proven in competition time and time again. I get your point but the threads intention was asking if i could adjust the Huber myself rather than sending it to John again. Not swaying people one way or another on light triggers.
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The e mail I got from Huber when i asked this question. Also why it is important to not make assumptions. A Huber is not a Timney. If you don't know the machine, do your home work. Don't assume how it works.
Hi David,
Depending on how old the trigger is, most likely it will need a couple part changes to move it a pound..
normally around 1/4 pound adjustment higher or lower can be done at your end.
Please pop it in the mail (with a note ) to us and we will check it out for you.
Diz
I think the 2 stage only goes down to 1.5, I think you might need the single stage to get to 1lb. Call them, they know. They will walk you through adjusting it.
Hi David,
Depending on how old the trigger is, most likely it will need a couple part changes to move it a pound..
normally around 1/4 pound adjustment higher or lower can be done at your end.
Please pop it in the mail (with a note ) to us and we will check it out for you.
Diz
I think the 2 stage only goes down to 1.5, I think you might need the single stage to get to 1lb. Call them, they know. They will walk you through adjusting it.
Yeah i wasn't assuming the Huber was a Timney or Vice versa, i haven't stated such. Just wanted it lower because it felt much stiffer than my TT which is at 1.5lbs. It's a non issue though because i'm going back to single stage triggers for the time being.
My Huber feels lighter at 2lbs than my TT at 1.5 or the end of adjustment. I am going to send it in and have it put at 2.5lbs like my other one.
No worries just stating my case.
I feels overly heavy to me compared to my TT. Just different triggers i suppose because i put two gauges on it and the second stage breaks at 1.5lbs. I mainly hate the inconsistency in the first stage or the tension so to speak. I'd prefer it be like BnA or Timney in that regard.
5RWill,
I pretty clearly said that it wasn't directed at anyone in particular. I have no idea how well you shoot, or what your experience is. Also, your trigger may be out of spec or incompatible in some other way. I don't know, and it doesn't matter to me. I also pretty clearly said that my concern was over guys new to this, reading threads like this and thinking they needed super light triggers. In every shooting sport, there are a very small handful of people who really understand the fundamentals. Most others are just trying to buy performance, and will never really train properly to get skill. I've been at this in one form or another for well over 20 years. Everywhere I go I see the same issues, pistol, carbine and rifle.
If I was directing any of this at you, it would be very clear. I was very honest in what I said, and am not passive about these things. Also, I am not deployed, but have been numerous times. I still use a rifle at work everyday, and that affects my mindset about what is valid.
eta: my point about a range toy, and going from case to range and back, had to do with the overall safety of very light triggers. Not a slam on recreational shooters. I shoot recreationally almost every single day. Recreational shooting has given me a career and a wife. No slam intended at all.
I pretty clearly said that it wasn't directed at anyone in particular. I have no idea how well you shoot, or what your experience is. Also, your trigger may be out of spec or incompatible in some other way. I don't know, and it doesn't matter to me. I also pretty clearly said that my concern was over guys new to this, reading threads like this and thinking they needed super light triggers. In every shooting sport, there are a very small handful of people who really understand the fundamentals. Most others are just trying to buy performance, and will never really train properly to get skill. I've been at this in one form or another for well over 20 years. Everywhere I go I see the same issues, pistol, carbine and rifle.
If I was directing any of this at you, it would be very clear. I was very honest in what I said, and am not passive about these things. Also, I am not deployed, but have been numerous times. I still use a rifle at work everyday, and that affects my mindset about what is valid.
eta: my point about a range toy, and going from case to range and back, had to do with the overall safety of very light triggers. Not a slam on recreational shooters. I shoot recreationally almost every single day. Recreational shooting has given me a career and a wife. No slam intended at all.
Maybe i overreacted thinking it was, i apologize if so. I clearly read you weren't directing it at anyone though the very essence of saying "threads like this" is disingenuous to that point in some regard.
That said. I’m not sure how the take away message from new shooter would be that they need a lighter trigger by viewing this thread. That is completely out of the scope of the thread topic. Which was again if I could adjust the Huber on my own or if anyone had attempted to do so.
I get your point, it is one I agree with. Performance can’t be bought it has to be learned and payed with time. I just fail to see where it applies to the topic of discussion as noone is advocating light triggers for the masses in order to circumvent fundamentals. I don't see how that could be construed from this thread.
That said. I’m not sure how the take away message from new shooter would be that they need a lighter trigger by viewing this thread. That is completely out of the scope of the thread topic. Which was again if I could adjust the Huber on my own or if anyone had attempted to do so.
I get your point, it is one I agree with. Performance can’t be bought it has to be learned and payed with time. I just fail to see where it applies to the topic of discussion as noone is advocating light triggers for the masses in order to circumvent fundamentals. I don't see how that could be construed from this thread.
I can see why you think that, and maybe I chose the wrong thread, or the wrong message. I apologize for that. It isn't that you or anyone is advocating for light triggers for the masses. I'm particularly advocating for "not light" triggers for everyone, and when new people read about these very light triggers (lots of references to very light triggers all over the place here, as well as new triggers coming out all the time that allow unprecedented pull weights), it educates them in a negative way, in my opinion. I know that guns can be made mechanically safer today, with lighter triggers, than ever before. Not safe enough to pass any kind of a duty type test, but maybe safe enough for range use. Either way, it is still the shooter that is the weak link, and you might be surprised how many top shooters have had ND's that most people won't ever hear about. A major contributing factor is guns that are to easy to fire. Complacency too, of course, but we are all human after all. Thankfully it's hard to kill yourself accidentally with a rifle, but not that hard to shoot someone else when you don't intend to. That was my main point, and obviously I'm in the minority here. I again apologize for derailing your thread, and will now attempt to bow out gracefully.
No worries i get the point and shouldn't have taken it as directed towards me. Just was lost as to where it was coming from.
