anyone have GOOD match grade AR varmint barrels in stock?

[Layton]

I've been so frustrated I've torn the thing down twice. Sheared the alignment pin on the second i was so pissed off after a day at the range. Got a new receiver, have tried 80 SMKs, 77 smks, 82 Bergers, Varget, 8208, adjusting seating depth, turning the gas up, turning the gas down, crimping, nt crimping and every combination of the afore mentioned you can imagine and nada. The WOA shoots just fine for both my father and I. This CLE won't shoot for shit for either of us.

L

edt: And I just cracked my 4th pound of Varget on this thing not to mention the XBR so do the math. lol

 

[Ring]

99% done... need to go test loads soon..

 

[Layton]

That's looking SWEET!!!!

 

[lte82]

99% done... need to go test loads soon..

Looks good. Is that the krieger dcm barrel?

 

[Ring]

Yes, the DCM from Brownells..

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[lte82]

Yes, the DCM from Brownells..

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Awesome. Make sure you start well under max load because it's a min spec 223 saami chamber and will show pressure signs .5-1 grain sooner than a wylde chamber. I also small base size everything for it because it can be a little more picky. Aside from those two caveats, the accuracy should be tremendous.

 

[smschulz]

Rainer is garbage......

Simply not true.

 

[akakb24]

I sure hope rainier isn't as bad as what guys are saying on here... I just ordered a 18" spr ultra match to put on my build the other day. Along with a Griffin armament flash comp.. Got me a little worried now, this is my first ultra match..

 

[lte82]

I sure hope rainier isn't as bad as what guys are saying on here... I just ordered a 18" spr ultra match to put on my build the other day. Along with a Griffin armament flash comp.. Got me a little worried now, this is my first ultra match..

They are made from Shilen blanks, which in my opinion is one of the best button rifled barrels available. I'm not sure who chambers them for rainier, but if the gunsmith does a good job it should shoot great. Don't get discouraged yet, shoot it and see for yourself.

 

[akakb24]

That was the reason i bought it, cause it was made with a shilen blank.. I just didn't like some of the reports guys were posting.. I'll give it a try and if it doesn't shoot I'll try out the cs or try a woa or kreiger.. hopefully it doesn't come to that, my fingers are crossed.. Thanks lte82.

 

[dodgefreak8]

My rainer 14.5" out shoots my rra 20" varmint.. And it doesn't shoot bad

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[smschulz]

I sure hope rainier isn't as bad as what guys are saying on here... I just ordered a 18" spr ultra match to put on my build the other day. Along with a Griffin armament flash comp.. Got me a little worried now, this is my first ultra match..

No worries.
Even IF there is a problem RA is GTG on taking care of you.
I have six builds on 308, 6.8, 556/223.
All well below MOA.
The uber-high end Krieger's and similar may be better but the UM barrels have served me well.
FWIW, I did send a 308 barrel back but I am not sure anything was really wrong with it.
I was inexperienced with loads and was having a problem with hot loaded factory ammo.
Never even then did I have an accuracy problem.
YMMV

 

[Tangodown911]

They are made from Shilen blanks, which in my opinion is one of the best button rifled barrels available. I'm not sure who chambers them for rainier, but if the gunsmith does a good job it should shoot great. Don't get discouraged yet, shoot it and see for yourself.

Rainier is good to go.

 

[DavidAR10]

Place Holder.

EDIT: If SYRAC would get off their hinnie, I would be in this thread with both feet AND

maniacal laughter or gnashing of teeth.

At the worst, I would just cuss and have the company
that I purchased the [justinwilsonvoice]garunteed[/justinwilsonvoice] 0.5 MOA pipe from go ahead
and send me another.

 

[alan98]

I had a CLE Krieger purchased in February when I found the initial thread saying problems with them. I had another same barrel I purchased earlier and it shot well however the FEB dated one just wouldn't do anything consistent. I sent it back and they replaced it -said Krieger recalled all their barrels. Just got it last week and it's broken in. For some reason, it prefers LC brass over Lapua. 24.0 Varget LC 09 .244 bushing with an OAL avg of 2.255. 10 rounds 100 yards with a hot barrel shot prone/rear bag. .6". Just ran it at 500 and 600 yards. Holding right under .5MOA vertical for 10 round groups. 500 yards, 8 of them were right around 2.8" with 1.8" vertical. 12 rounds at 600 around 3" vertical, just some L-R grouping as it was windy. Still under 6" for a group. I'm impressed with this replacement barrel.

I'm going to sort the brass and deburr flasholes, etc. I get an odd flyer every once in awhile. It's likely just me, but want to ensure all brass is consistent.

Alan

 

[smschulz]

I had a CLE Krieger .... For some reason, it prefers LC brass over Lapua.

That might be a blessing in disguise with the way SA's beat up brass and how expensive Lapua is compared to LC.
I only load Lapua for my bolt gun for that reason, LC and others for the AR308.

 

[Cobracutter]

My rainer 14.5" out shoots my rra 20" varmint.. And it doesn't shoot bad

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RRA are shit barrels too, so that's not saying much. Ive owned a couple of them, including and A2 highpower model (which should have the best barrel of all) and it was shit. Sold that hunk of dogshit and replaced it with a WOA (not to mention the shitty RRA 2 stage abomination).


Back to square one for those devoid of logic...... If 75% of rainer's barrels were good and 25% were shit, would you recommend them? If you got 2 good ones, would you reccomend them? If all you have is one or two barrels how would you know? Even DPMS puts out a .25 MOA barrel every once in a while. Does that mean all DPMS guns shoots 1/4"?

Thats what you get. A couple close minded fools who say "DUR I goted a goodz one, so dey all is grate', complety ignoring those who KNOW they have enough issues to be unsat.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but some peoples opinions are clearly worthless.

 

[-Nick-]

I love how Cobracutter is bashing Rainier Arms Ultramatch barrels and praising WOA. Hey Cobra... Rainier Arms Ultramatch barrels... Guess who works those Shilen blanks over? Let me help you out... It begins with White and ends with Armament. Smoke on that a little bit...

 

[Cobracutter]

Sounds like someone is smoking the rainer pole a little too hard........and look at your location........coincidence?

Don't forget to cup the balls.

 

[-Nick-]

Sounds like someone is smoking the rainer pole a little too hard........and look at your location........coincidence?

Don't forget to cup the balls.

Or unlike you occasionally I actually know what the fuck I'm talking about... Nice to know you allow your emotional tendencies to influence your responses.

 

[Cobracutter]

So whats the excuse for all the "ULTRAMATCH" and "MATCH" barrels that have been returned because they didn't shoot.

Amazingly you won't hear many of these issues with WOA branded barrels, yet Rainer has plenty. Who is to even say WOA does their barrels, or what blanks they use, or anything. Its unsubstantiated rumor.

http://www.snipershide.com/shooting...r-arms-vs-white-oak-armament-spr-barrels.html

You don't even fucking know, you taking the word of someone else on the Internet, so stop pretending like you can speak on any of this with authority,

 

[-Nick-]

So whats the excuse for all the "ULTRAMATCH" and "MATCH" barrels that have been returned because they didn't shoot.

Amazingly you won't hear many of these issues with WOA branded barrels, yet Rainer has plenty. Who is to even say WOA does their barrels, or what blanks they use, or anything. Its unsubstantiated rumor.

http://www.snipershide.com/shooting...r-arms-vs-white-oak-armament-spr-barrels.html

You don't even fucking know, you taking the word of someone else on the Internet, so stop pretending like you can speak on any of this with authority,

Funny since I don't see all these threads you mention talking trash about Rainier Arms barrels, just you and one other guy. Second... The thread you cited is mine dumbass and I ended up purchasing the UltraMatch when I found out WOA is the one who works them over from WOA themselves. I also went 3 for 5 at 905yds with that barrel and considering the first 2 shots were to walk it on since it was windy... yeah... The only person who's talking out their ass about a product they've probably never even touched none the less used is you sweetheart.

 

[-Nick-]

Who is to even say WOA does their barrels, or what blanks they use, or anything. Its unsubstantiated rumor.

BTW... Rainier Arms own website says what blanks they use if you ever actually researched it before you went running your mouth...

"Rainier Arms UltraMatch™ barrels are the best barrels money can buy. Made to the highest specifications using the world renowned Shilen barrel blanks. When you need the best, look no where else"

 

[Tangodown911]

BTW... Rainier Arms own website says what blanks they use if you ever actually researched it before you went running your mouth...

"Rainier Arms UltraMatch™ barrels are the best barrels money can buy. Made to the highest specifications using the world renowned Shilen barrel blanks. When you need the best, look no where else"

Nick you are wasting your time.

 

[-Nick-]

Nick you are wasting your time.

I know... but I'm fed up reading Cobra's fanboy crap. I've also shot WOA and Krieger and they're great barrels as well. I just get tired of seeing keyboard commandos who have never even used a product mouthing off with fanboy crap and acting like their some expert when I doubt they even shoot at this point.

 

[DavidAR10]

So whats the excuse for all the "ULTRAMATCH" and "MATCH" barrels that have been returned because they didn't shoot.

Amazingly you won't hear many of these issues with WOA branded barrels, yet Rainer has plenty. Who is to even say WOA does their barrels, or what blanks they use, or anything. Its unsubstantiated rumor.

http://www.snipershide.com/shooting...r-arms-vs-white-oak-armament-spr-barrels.html

You don't even fucking know, you taking the word of someone else on the Internet, so stop pretending like you can speak on any of this with authority,

 

[cotntop]

I have been shooting a lot longer than the average Joe will ever think about and learned a lot. If you play with gasers long enough you will get disappointed. There has been a lot of stuff in the last 2 years that was not a quality product handed down to our suppliers. Hope we are on the tail-end of this mess. Dealt with all those dealers on this post and had good and bad results with some. What makes the diff is the CS. SHILEN ROCKS!!!!!!

 

[Tangodown911]

I know... but I'm fed up reading Cobra's fanboy crap. I've also shot WOA and Krieger and they're great barrels as well. I just get tired of seeing keyboard commandos who have never even used a product mouthing off with fanboy crap and acting like their some expert when I doubt they even shoot at this point.

Best barrel I have is a Krieger but I have also got many more bad ones than I have good ones. When they are good they are good. Perhaps my luck...I don't know but it is what it is.

I had a WOA barrel and it was good. But my rainier UltraMatch was better. In fact I bought the rainier because I was from what I heard....their barrels were spun by Johns crew at WOA (and not CLE). My guess is the UltraMatch I have shoots everything better than the WOA because the WOA has a 5.56mm chamber. Just my belief.

Is like to see some threads about people bitching about Rainiers barrels sucking ass. I've heard of many more bum Kriegers than I have Rainier/shilen/WOA made barrels being junk. Maybe it's because there are more Kriegers out there I don't know and don't care. But like I said I want to see rainier bum threads before I believe it. Everybody has different experiences and that's what I like to read about on these threads and sometimes offer mine where I can.

 

[Cobracutter]

Funny since I don't see all these threads you mention talking trash about Rainier Arms barrels, just you and one other guy. Second... The thread you cited is mine dumbass and I ended up purchasing the UltraMatch when I found out WOA is the one who works them over from WOA themselves. I also went 3 for 5 at 905yds with that barrel and considering the first 2 shots were to walk it on since it was windy... yeah... The only person who's talking out their ass about a product they've probably never even touched none the less used is you sweetheart.

Good, let me know when you build more than 10 of them and how they workout. Ive built more AR's using Rainer Barrels then you have probably ever touched in your life. Lots of rumors on the Internet who makes what and blah blah.

No one with a lick of common sense or experience would choice a Rainer barrel over a Krieger, WOA, Bartlien or Lija. When your spending that kind of money, Rainer FAILS. If you want to play the barrel lottery then chances are you will get a decent tube, but don't fucking pretend like you can state with confidence that they will get a good barrel. History is against you.

Even Tactical Rifles can put out a good rifle every once in a while..................

 

[Cobracutter]

BTW... Rainier Arms own website says what blanks they use if you ever actually researched it before you went running your mouth...

"Rainier Arms UltraMatch™ barrels are the best barrels money can buy. Made to the highest specifications using the world renowned Shilen barrel blanks. When you need the best, look no where else"

Well fuck me, they are now "best barrels money can buy".... forgive me but please show me in this statement where it says they are finished by WOA?

 

[Cobracutter]

Best barrel I have is a Krieger but I have also got many more bad ones than I have good ones. When they are good they are good. Perhaps my luck...I don't know but it is what it is.

I had a WOA barrel and it was good. But my rainier UltraMatch was better. In fact I bought the rainier because I was from what I heard....their barrels were spun by Johns crew at WOA (and not CLE). My guess is the UltraMatch I have shoots everything better than the WOA because the WOA has a 5.56mm chamber. Just my belief.

Is like to see some threads about people bitching about Rainiers barrels sucking ass. I've heard of many more bum Kriegers than I have Rainier/shilen/WOA made barrels being junk. Maybe it's because there are more Kriegers out there I don't know and don't care. But like I said I want to see rainier bum threads before I believe it. Everybody has different experiences and that's what I like to read about on these threads and sometimes offer mine where I can.

Krieger makes around 12,000 Barrels PER YEAR. Many of their customers are pro and competitive shooters. Most of their owners would be in the competent/experienced group. They also tend to be VERY picky, especial those benchrest nerds.

RA BUYS (because they don't make shit) who knows how many per year. MOST are used on home builds by inexperienced/novice users. Many of them don't even know what a torque wrench looks like. They wouldn't know a bad barrel from a good one if their life depended on it.

Not making excuses for either, but thats the reality of the situation.

 

[-Nick-]

Good, let me know when you build more than 10 of them and how they workout. Ive built more AR's using Rainer Barrels then you have probably ever touched in your life. Lots of rumors on the Internet who makes what and blah blah.

No one with a lick of common sense or experience would choice a Rainer barrel over a Krieger, WOA, Bartlien or Lija. When your spending that kind of money, Rainer FAILS. If you want to play the barrel lottery then chances are you will get a decent tube, but don't fucking pretend like you can state with confidence that they will get a good barrel. History is against you.

Even Tactical Rifles can put out a good rifle every once in a while..................

I've built more rifles than... blah blah blah. It's not a rumor dipshit. If you could read as much as you type I just told you WOA was the one who said they worked the barrels over. And what history? You're still talking out your ass with zero facts...

 

[-Nick-]

Well fuck me, they are now "best barrels money can buy".... forgive me but please show me in this statement where it says they are finished by WOA?

Again since you can't fucking read... I contacted WOA and they were the ones to confirm. Rainier Arms told me the same thing. I also did quote that statement to verify where they were made but to point out they were in fact Shilen blanks since you said earlier that was just a rumor. Maybe you can try spin that shit some more by only taking out of context what suits your retardation.

 

[-Nick-]

Krieger makes around 12,000 Barrels PER YEAR. Many of their customers are pro and competitive shooters. Most of their owners would be in the competent/experienced group. They also tend to be VERY picky, especial those benchrest nerds.

RA BUYS (because they don't make shit) who knows how many per year. MOST are used on home builds by inexperienced/novice users. Many of them don't even know what a torque wrench looks like. They wouldn't know a bad barrel from a good one if their life depended on it.

Not making excuses for either, but thats the reality of the situation.

Your ass must be huge because for you to pull so much shit out of it is amazing... Your opinion does not equal reality except in your own delusions.

 

[lte82]

Ring, have you taken it to the range yet?

 

[Cobracutter]

Again since you can't fucking read... I contacted WOA and they were the ones to confirm. Rainier Arms told me the same thing. I also did quote that statement to verify where they were made but to point out they were in fact Shilen blanks since you said earlier that was just a rumor. Maybe you can try spin that shit some more by only taking out of context what suits your retardation.

No , you cannot read, nor even get a quote correct. Nice try though, It must be frustrating to have the IQ of a pine cone. I feel for ya.

I never said they wern't shilen blanks, I said that they are finished/built by who knows whp. WOA may work on the "ultramatch" but that that doesn't really mean shit. You claimed like you are some authority on the subject, yet in the thread posted just last month you had zero idea for yourself. The blank does not make the barrel and the finishing does not make the barrel, and a shitty install will ruin a good barrel.

Fact is, WOA branded barrels are a known standard and the RA Ultramatch have enough proven failures for competent builders to exclude them from their componet list. There are much better products for the same or similar money to play the barrel lottery.

How many pro builders are using RA "Match" or "ultramatch" as their tubes? They are self admitidly "The best barrels money can buy", yet no one but homebuilders use them. Funny huh?

The OP already bought his DCM barrel so its a moot point now. People like you are a complete detriment to these online forums. You fill them up with novice and ignorant opinons that make it almost impossible for people to get correct awsners and advice. Do us all a favor and go over to sniper central or Ar15.com and lick on Larue's ball sack with the rest of the lemmings.

 

[Ring]

Ring, have you taken it to the range yet?

havent had a time to run a full blown test load work up.. only had 1 day to get out to shoot, and he needed a "working" load to bulk load for the long range class this sunday..


so out of 4 loads tested, the best was .36 virt, .73 horizontal
the horizontal stringing could have been from the winds that day, or the fact he just swapped the scope with a cheep BSA and 20moa riser, till he gets his better scope

after the class, he has 4 or 5 powders to work up full tests with to get the best load, we just had no time for that yet..
h4895
XBR
Varget
AR Comp
IMR???

 

[-Nick-]

Amazingly you won't hear many of these issues with WOA branded barrels, yet Rainer has plenty. Who is to even say WOA does their barrels, or what blanks they use, or anything. Its unsubstantiated rumor.

No , you cannot read, nor even get a quote correct. Nice try though, It must be frustrating to have the IQ of a pine cone. I feel for ya.

I never said they wern't shilen blanks(See above), I said that they are finished/built by who knows whp. WOA may work on the "ultramatch" but that that doesn't really mean shit. You claimed like you are some authority on the subject, yet in the thread posted just last month (That thread was over a year old dipshit, like I said you can't read or apparently tell what a date is) you had zero idea for yourself (And I asked for opinions on which was better, I shot both but wanted a general consensus from others who had used the same, not an oxygen thief who spits out contradictions). The blank does not make the barrel and the finishing does not make the barrel, and a shitty install will ruin a good barrel. (So the blank and who's finishing doesn't make the barrel? Lol... Now it's about the install?)

Fact is, WOA branded barrels are a known standard and the RA Ultramatch have enough proven failures (You still haven't showed us these proven failures) for competent builders to exclude them from their componet list. There are much better products for the same or similar money to play the barrel lottery.

How many pro builders are using RA "Match" or "ultramatch" as their tubes? They are self admitidly "The best barrels money can buy", yet no one but homebuilders use them. Funny huh?

The OP already bought his DCM barrel so its a moot point now. People like you are a complete detriment to these online forums. You fill them up with novice and ignorant opinons that make it almost impossible for people to get correct awsners and advice. Do us all a favor and go over to sniper central or Ar15.com and lick on Larue's ball sack with the rest of the lemmings. (You really should look in a mirror and quit spouting your own sef realizations at everyone else.)

To further prove you're so full of shit and contradiction that I don't think you know your ass from your mouth...

Quality companies do not sell "blems"

They care too much for their reputation to put out defective products with their name on them.

KAC 11.5 or BCM KMR 11.5 ELW.

Both will be better than any 10.5/.3 on the market, and 7.5 is a complete waste of money.

 

[Cobracutter]

To further prove you're so full of shit and contradiction that I don't think you know your ass from your mouth...

FAIL AGAIN............HAHA you are really grasping for straws now. Its hysterical.

As far as Blanks/finishing goes, RA has used a mulitude of EACH for its different barrel lines, and has even CHANGED within each barrel line since they started peddlinig the shit. No where did I say that they DON'T use a product, simply that there are questions to who makes and finishes what. You can blow smoke and bullshit till your blue in the face, but you are still an ignorant fuck. THERE HAS BEEN A HIGH INCIDENCE OF SHITTY RAINER BARRELS. I HAVE HAD BAD ONES, FELLOW BUILDERS HAVE HAD BAD ONES, AND THERE ARE TONS OF REPORTS ON THE NET FROM PROVEN/COMPETENT HOME ROLLERS WHO HAVE HAD TO RETURN THEM BEACUSE THEY ARE SHIT. HERE IT IS IN CAPS FOR YOUR DUMB ASS TO DIGEST.

And as far as the blem/quality issue, it was explained ad nasuem in THAT thread... yet you just pull out what you want to try and make your half ass arguement. Feel free to read and educate yourself, but that's probally too much to ask at this point.

 

[-Nick-]

FAIL AGAIN............HAHA you are really grasping for straws now. Its hysterical.

As far as Blanks/finishing goes, RA has used a mulitude of EACH for its different barrel lines, and has even CHANGED within each barrel line since they started peddlinig the shit. No where did I say that they DON'T use a product, simply that there are questions to who makes and finishes what. You can blow smoke and bullshit till your blue in the face, but you are still an ignorant fuck. THERE HAS BEEN A HIGH INCIDENCE OF SHITTY RAINER BARRELS. I HAVE HAD BAD ONES, FELLOW BUILDERS HAVE HAD BAD ONES, AND THERE ARE TONS OF REPORTS ON THE NET FROM PROVEN/COMPETENT HOME ROLLERS WHO HAVE HAD TO RETURN THEM BEACUSE THEY ARE SHIT. HERE IT IS IN CAPS FOR YOUR DUMB ASS TO DIGEST.

And as far as the blem/quality issue, it was explained ad nasuem in THAT thread... yet you just pull out what you want to try and make your half ass arguement. Feel free to read and educate yourself, but that's probally too much to ask at this point.

You said it's all rumor earlier but now you're saying they've "used a mulitude of EACH for its different barrel line" yet they've always used the same barrel blanks and you have zero evidence to back that crap up other than screaming on a keyboard. And again you cite "incidence" yet you don't actually cite any evidence other than an apparent broken caps lock button and all these online stories which is where I believe you get most of your crap advice from that you regurgitate at every corner in an attempt to impress people. And I only quoted exactly what you said, unlike you who likes to pull 1/2 sentences... Try again but this time make it all red along with the caps lock.

 

[ZombieMonkey]

I know of several RA ultramatch barrels out in the wild working very well including an 18" I used on a build of my own. I have no hesitation recommending them to someone else looking to build a gun. Accuracy has been in the .6-.75 area for five round groups with fgmm, fiochi match (best factory loading in this gun), and with handloads.

Sure, my particular barrel only represents one, but don't tell it that it shouldn't have been getting consistent groupings on a 10" gong at 760 yards.

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[Cobracutter]

You said it's all rumor earlier but now you're saying they've "used a mulitude of EACH for its different barrel line" yet they've always used the same barrel blanks and you have zero evidence to back that crap up other than screaming on a keyboard. And again you cite "incidence" yet you don't actually cite any evidence other than an apparent broken caps lock button and all these online stories which is where I believe you get most of your crap advice from that you regurgitate at every corner in an attempt to impress people. And I only quoted exactly what you said, unlike you who likes to pull 1/2 sentences... Try again but this time make it all red along with the caps lock.

Well since you are too lazy to do your own research and you lack experice with these playforms , Here ya go.

Impropperly drilled/Sized gas ports, Chambers cut wrong/tight, Presure signs with quality match factory ammo, Barrels that don't group with quality match ammo, Bad extensions/headspace issues, ect

Hell Rainer even admits to sending out bad batches : Tight chamber normal, or should I send the barrel back? - AR15.COM




Don't worry though, Even if you get a good barrel, your Credit Card still might get stolen like my brother (and hundreds of other customers). Yet Rainer notified no one, did not appologize and tried to cover it up by having threads closed down on various forums :
Ranier Arms Stolen Credit Cards - Page 6 - Maryland Shooters

 

[-Nick-]

Well since you are too lazy to do your own research and you lack experice with these playforms , Here ya go.

Impropperly drilled/Sized gas ports, Chambers cut wrong/tight, Presure signs with quality match factory ammo, Barrels that don't group with quality match ammo, Bad extensions/headspace issues, ect

Hell Rainer even admits to sending out bad batches : Tight chamber normal, or should I send the barrel back? - AR15.COM




Don't worry though, Even if you get a good barrel, your Credit Card still might get stolen like my brother (and hundreds of other customers). Yet Rainer notified no one, did not appologize and tried to cover it up by having threads closed down on various forums :
Ranier Arms Stolen Credit Cards - Page 6 - Maryland Shooters

GAP has sent out a batch of bad barrels. Does that make them shit? And you bring up one thread where again a couple people complain and somehow that constitutes a wide spread "fact" that the barrels are bad. And now you're trying to attack them over a credit card theft from a computer hack which I notice half the people in there barking are telling everyone how their smith told them not to use Rainier but to go through them which is convenient. 90% of that thread is all 3rd party. And I'm not the one making the claim so why the fuck would I need to go research it on your behalf? Oh that's right... because you're too busy populating the internet with conjecture and opinion.

 

[cotntop]

Not trying to hijack this thread but does anyone like the Wylde chamber better? Seems to me i can find loads easier than with standard chambers. Hope this didn't interrupt anything. Now have at it.

 

[lte82]

havent had a time to run a full blown test load work up.. only had 1 day to get out to shoot, and he needed a "working" load to bulk load for the long range class this sunday..


so out of 4 loads tested, the best was .36 virt, .73 horizontal
the horizontal stringing could have been from the winds that day, or the fact he just swapped the scope with a cheep BSA and 20moa riser, till he gets his better scope

after the class, he has 4 or 5 powders to work up full tests with to get the best load, we just had no time for that yet..
h4895
XBR
Varget
AR Comp
IMR???

Try 25.8 gr 2000mr, or 24 gr varget with the 77gr smk. These loads shoot great out of the 20" kriegers.

 

[lte82]

Not trying to hijack this thread but does anyone like the Wylde chamber better? Seems to me i can find loads easier than with standard chambers. Hope this didn't interrupt anything. Now have at it.

The 223 wylde is a great chamber but doesn't shoot anything better than a saami min spec 223 rem chambered barrel. I have kriegers in both and to be honest the min spec chamber barrel shoots my practice ammo better than my wylde chamber. Match ammo is a wash however, as they are both 1/2 moa.