anyone running 7mm rem mag for lr ?

[264win]

im thinking of building a 7mm rem mag for lr steel and hunting , but i dont see or hear others using this cal. i know the 7 wsm is the latest craze , but im going to rebarrel a win m 70 la mag . trying to decide between 300 win mag and 7 mm rem .. any insight would be appreciated . adam

 

[buffybuster]

Re: anyone running 7mm rem mag for lr ?

7WSM & 7RM: Two peas in a pod.

 

[7mmRM]

Re: anyone running 7mm rem mag for lr ?

I hear good things about them........

 

[Advokaten]

Re: anyone running 7mm rem mag for lr ?

Berger 168/180 VLD in a 7 mm Rem mag,

will do very well in to the ELR area of LR.

/Chris

 

[jrpilot]

Re: anyone running 7mm rem mag for lr ?

I shoot a 7mmRM, and my brother shoots a 300WM. I shoot a 162AMAX @ 2935fps, and he shoots the 208AMAX @ 2960fps. These speeds are both out of 24in barrels. You do the math the 300WM is much better than the 7mm. I like my 7mm, but the 300WM wins hands down on energy, and wind drift.

 

[USMCj]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jrpilot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I shoot a 7mmRM, and my brother shoots a 300WM. I shoot a 162AMAX @ 2935fps, and he shoots the 208AMAX @ 2960fps. These speeds are both out of 24in barrels. You do the math the 300WM is much better than the 7mm. I like my 7mm, but the 300WM wins hands down on energy, and wind drift. </div></div>

Huh? Ill give you the energy, but the rest is bullshit! Run 180 Berger VLD (.659BC) or JLK VLD (.735BC) then see which one is the clear winner.

 

[Jthoss0837]

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Happy with mine.
Great round

 

[KeithR41]

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Use your action and build an Edge!

 

[jrpilot]

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USMCj, I was giving information about the loads that I have used, and have experience with in these two rounds. I havent used every bullet out there. He asked for some insight, and I was letting him know how our rifles are performing, with the bullets we are using.

 

[Goin'Hot]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jrpilot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I shoot a 7mmRM, and my brother shoots a 300WM. I shoot a 162AMAX @ 2935fps, and he shoots the 208AMAX @ 2960fps. These speeds are both out of 24in barrels. You do the math the 300WM is much better than the 7mm. I like my 7mm, but the 300WM wins hands down on energy, and wind drift. </div></div>

You should be able to get those 162's at or over 3100fps.

 

[JCH]

Re: anyone running 7mm rem mag for lr ?

7wsm

and it shoots, best of the load developement:

But it has Beanland magic dust sprinkled on it

 

[JCH]

Re: anyone running 7mm rem mag for lr ?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Goin'Hot</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jrpilot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I shoot a 7mmRM, and my brother shoots a 300WM. I shoot a 162AMAX @ 2935fps, and he shoots the 208AMAX @ 2960fps. These speeds are both out of 24in barrels. You do the math the 300WM is much better than the 7mm. I like my 7mm, but the 300WM wins hands down on energy, and wind drift. </div></div>

You should be able to get those 162's at or over 3100fps.</div></div>

Yep, I push them at 3150 out of the WSM

 

[Bacarrat]

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Energy? I don't think any animal is going to be able to tell the difference between the 7mm or 30 cal when it gets hit.

Now I kinda wish I had a pic of the 8x1" thick piece of steel that I snapped in half with my 7.

 

[Willys46]

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I love the 7 rem mag with 168 bergers @ 3100 fps, It makes a 1000 yrds seem pretty easy.

 

[264win]

Re: anyone running 7mm rem mag for lr ?

appreciate all the opinions , helpful and otherwise . my choices are 300 win mag or 7mm rem mag. the wsm is great but requires a larger bolt face than i have . the action is really to short for an edge , but the next project is a 338 or 375 elr cal... one step at a time

 

[jasonahull]

Re: anyone running 7mm rem mag for lr ?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 264win</div><div class="ubbcode-body">im thinking of building a 7mm rem mag for lr steel and hunting , but i dont see or hear others using this cal. i know the 7 wsm is the latest craze , but im going to rebarrel a win m 70 la mag . trying to decide between 300 win mag and 7 mm rem .. any insight would be appreciated . adam </div></div>




i just read berger is going to make a 175 grain xld bullet that will have a slightly higger b.c. that the 180's
i just finished a 7wsm on a long action from benchmark with a reamer that is a little tighter around the neck, i think .004 clearance and more throat for the 180's it gives lots more room for the 168's too.

 

[jasonahull]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 264win</div><div class="ubbcode-body">appreciate all the opinions , helpful and otherwise . my choices are 300 win mag or 7mm rem mag. the wsm is great but requires a larger bolt face than i have . the action is really to short for an edge , but the next project is a 338 or 375 elr cal... one step at a time </div></div>



if you have a mag bolt face the 7wsm will work it is the same as a 300 win mag or 7mm win mag
i would do 7mm one or the other for the b.c's

 

[jasonahull]

Re: anyone running 7mm rem mag for lr ?

check this out
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1779634&gonew=1#UNREAD

 

[264win]

Re: anyone running 7mm rem mag for lr ?

well i know its only .0058 larger and usually they will fit , just not my speed. or course benchmark could open the bf up a little , but im not really into the wsm thing .

very nice stick a-hull , let me know how it shoots .

 

[jasonahull]

Re: anyone running 7mm rem mag for lr ?

thanks we will have to go out and see how it shoots.

the wsm case body is a little larger than a standard mag but the bolt faces are the same.
We have built three here recently converting 7mm rem mag to wsm
with out opening the bolt faces, one of them is Rons.
but if you want to go standard rem mag i would go 7 all the way.

 

[Knife]

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I used to shoot a 7mm and loved it. Just picked up a 300wm for hunting but when it comes time to rebarrel, it will have a 7mm barrel go on it. If you go with a 7mm load up some 180 grain bergers and give them a try.

 

[M.D.K.]

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can you turn a long action 7mm rem mag into a 7mm wsm just by rebarreling it? im also looking at a rebarrel and i have a long action but really want to do a wsm, ive heard of guys doing it but didn't know if there was any other modifications that had to be done.

 

[Wild_Bill]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mk443</div><div class="ubbcode-body">can you turn a long action 7mm rem mag into a 7mm wsm just by rebarreling it? im also looking at a rebarrel and i have a long action but really want to do a wsm, ive heard of guys doing it but didn't know if there was any other modifications that had to be done. </div></div>

As mentioned above the case is fatter on the WSM but the rim is rebared and they are the same you could set the factory barrel back and rechamber the 7mmRem Mag to 7mm WSM it is that easy. i prefer the remington SAUM case in 7mm it hammers i am getting the 175gr MatchKings over 3100fps in a long barrel and retumbe.

I believe that in any of the following 7mm rem mag, 7mmWSM or 7mm Rem SAUM you can not go wrong. but in the Win action it has merit to use the 7mm Rem mag as you have a 1" tennone and the barrels can spring with hot loads and a WSM case. That is why Win went to an extrea fine thread on the WSSM actions i am sure the WSM actions would be the same but have not worked on them.

So to answer you Yes a 7mm Rem Mag is best. if you compare a 175-180gr projectile against a 300 win mag and 210gr VLD the rem mag will equil the velocity and at long range because the edge is with the 7mm it closes the gap in energy and eventualy overtakes it. the 30 cal has more recoil with more wind drift and at long range less energy but the energy is not an issue with either. the only plus for the 30 cal is a longer barrel life but performance is everything and i will take and do take the 7mm over a 30 all the time.

I shoot Match Rifle F Class 1000, 1100 and 1200 yards my 7mm rem SAUM kills the 300wsm they are running a 210gr VLD under 3000fps i am running a 175gr MatchKing over 3150fps in the smae length barrel even if both BC's are the same and they are not the 7mm is just in front. At 1200 yards i have less drop, less drift, and more energy. So get a 7mm and dont look back.

 

[jasonahull]

Re: anyone running 7mm rem mag for lr ?

and also in this link it talks about berger making 175's that will have a higher b.c. than their 180's


http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1779634&gonew=1#UNREAD

 

[WayneHS]

Re: anyone running 7mm rem mag for lr ?

I'm running a 300 Win Mag in my HS Precision HTR and I love it. However, if you don't NEED the extra energy, then I'd to 7 rem mag hands down. Less recoil and similar ballistics to the 300 Win. I have read people getting slightly fewer rounds through the 7 rem mag compared to the 300 Win but I cannot confirm this. Besides, barrels are really considered disposable anyway

 

[260shtr]

Re: anyone running 7mm rem mag for lr ?

Running 7RM and 168 Bergers at 3050 fps. Has no problem rocking a 25 LB plate at 700.

A few guys are shooting them at Thunder Valley with good success.

 

[264win]

Re: anyone running 7mm rem mag for lr ?

i will not be going wsm . im with bill , i think the 7 saum is the way to go for a sa cartridge . i had one in a win sa, easily reached 3200 + with 162 a max. its nice that you dont need a la to really wring it out .

thanks for all the responses , adam

 

[h4everything]

Re: anyone running 7mm rem mag for lr ?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JCH</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Goin'Hot</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jrpilot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I shoot a 7mmRM, and my brother shoots a 300WM. I shoot a 162AMAX @ 2935fps, and he shoots the 208AMAX @ 2960fps. These speeds are both out of 24in barrels. You do the math the 300WM is much better than the 7mm. I like my 7mm, but the 300WM wins hands down on energy, and wind drift. </div></div>

You should be able to get those 162's at or over 3100fps.</div></div>

Yep, I push them at 3150 out of the WSM </div></div>

only has 24" bbl. When I built my 7mm rem mag w/ 23" regret not going longer.

 

[mclevela]

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Go for the 7RM you won't be disappointed. They get to 1000 yds easy. I run the 162 Amax at 3100 and will try the 180 bergers soon.
It is easy to load for, brass is easy to come by as well.

 

[MicronuT]

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what kind of a throat life, does each of these 7's have? ive been considering all of them, and i think for me it will come down to barrel life...

 

[M.D.K.]

Re: anyone running 7mm rem mag for lr ?

What i like about the 7rm is the ammo selection (factory) but ive been pretty locked in on the 7wsm for a while now but i don't see to many guns for sale that are long action running the 7wsm in it.. I was told its a advantage to run the wsm in a long action because you can run the longer bullets but i don't seem to see to many people doing it.. hard choice..

 

[XMC]

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I spotted for a friend in Idaho who took a shot at an Elk. He was using 7mm Win Mag with a Barnes in the 140 gr range. It didn't even take a step when he shot. The bullet entered the chest and was just under the skin on the right hip. This stepped off at just over 800 yards. I was surprised because the Browning BAR he used looked like it had been drug behind a horse for about a year and had a beat to hell Weaver 4X on it. He grew up there and had been hunting for more that 25 years in the area so he had an intimate amount of experience. I'll probably get a lot of flack for this story but I'm sticking to it, I was there. I have a lot of faith in the 7mag.

 

[JCH]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: USMC2841</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I spotted for a friend in Idaho who took a shot at an Elk. He was using 7mm Win Mag with a Barnes in the 140 gr range. It didn't even take a step when he shot. The bullet entered the chest and was just under the skin on the right hip. This stepped off at just over 800 yards. I was surprised because the Browning BAR he used looked like it had been drug behind a horse for about a year and had a beat to hell Weaver 4X on it. He grew up there and had been hunting for more that 25 years in the area so he had an intimate amount of experience. I'll probably get a lot of flack for this story but I'm sticking to it, I was there. I have a lot of faith in the 7mag.</div></div>

Never heard of the 7mm Win Mag

I've heard of 284 win mag....and 7mm rem mag...and 7win SHORT mag

 

[GreatGonzo]

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A 7mm Rem Mag won't deliver the energy at the target that a 300 Win mag will (until you get really far out), but it will get there faster, flatter, with less wind drift, and with dramatically less recoil. I would choose it over the 300 for anything in North America as it will deliver plenty of punch. If I wanted to deliver larger 30 cal bullets, I would build an ultra mag and make it heavy.