AR Ban Implications on existing owners and Boulder Tragedy
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Ha. You can call me whatever you like. I don't give a shit. And I think arguing about politics is health, even if it is with people whose votes are identical to yours. Helps everybody to put their own beliefs through the ringer.
I think that is true to an extent, but if two people cant see eye to eye what is the point of being an asshole? I felt like i was being kinda a dick. Im here to be a better shooter at long ranges, not to be an asshole and alienate my fellow shooters.
How many mass shootings happen in "gun free" zones?
Why do the cities with the strictest gun laws have the most violent crime?
I don’t think you will change the Liberal left’s mind, nor do I think we need to negotiate or compromise on our God given rights to keep and bare arms, however, If you don’t sit down and begin an intelligent conversation with those they are trying to influence and sway to their leftist agenda we may very well loss the argument because people empathize with their false narrative of fear.Those who can't see what is happening are not "us." Those who hate freedom, love fucktards who think that rights are negotiable, and granted by government. Those who hate freedom love stupids that don't understand how taking a right away incrementally, the Maxist way, works.
Those who still want "gun control" debates, are ignorant. The data is in, the history and precedence have been set in stone. No good comes from it, and the purposes for their moves are all to well known. Our current democrat party has whole heartily admitted they are coming for our guns. So you want to negotiate away rights with someone who's end game is complete disarmament, and a group that have literally said they want to put you and your children in camps, or kill you if you don't agree with them. And a group that literally had to steal elections to get back in power because of the whole sale rejection of their agenda across the entire country.
Yeah lets go talk to them, and ask them, maybe they will give us our country back if we have some civil discourse.
Cursing, stomping, bullying and being a general bone head doesn’t change anything. That also doesn’t mean we just sit back and let it happen either. I agree with John Lovell’s position, “Now is not the time to bare arms but to have meaningful conversations that are informed by truth and facts and history”. Fact’s that challenge the left’s ideology and cause those who can be reasoned with to rethink their position.
You will not change the left’s mind, they know exactly what they are doing and they don’t care about our rights. Personally they are not worth the breath of air it takes to argue with them, so don’t waist your time. You can’t fix stupid and stupid won’t fix itself. But, when someone ask a legitimate question and wants to reason together then we owe it to them to give them the time to hear reason and truth. That doesn’t mean again that we hold back our emotions or feelings on the issue but it does mean we treat them with respect and dignity, other wise we will simply loose them to the left. When the time comes to be vigilant in the defense of freedom with more than words we will all have to choose where we stand, but for now this is a war of ideas, ideologies, and words and the way we fight it will make all the difference in the world and plot a course for generations to come.
Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr once took hot pokers to each other on the floor of the Capitol. A disagreement that ended in a duel. At times civil arguments must move beyond civility. I am always amazed at how the left tries to frame civility in this country. They strike the first blow and then try to play the victim. Civil Discourse doesn’t mean one rolls over and plays dead in blind toleration to the whims of the misinformed or deviant left it does however mean we attack them with truth as to cause them to show their cards to the masses. Remain calm in the storm and you will prevail, loose you junk and you are defeated already. That applies in any fight.
In a competition, make no mistake this is a competition for the soul of America, everyone is equal at the practice butts but it is the one with the best mental game that wins! So let us,while we can, run in such a way as to win without hatred or violence, as that is the very message the left wants everyone to hear about those who would keep and bare arms. Those who would defend freedom at all cost. You must, we must be calm, be vigilant, be steady and truthful in the midst of the battle, so stand your ground and don’t give an inch but be nice until it is time to not to be nice!
“All bitterness, anger and wrath, shouting and slander must be removed from you, along with all malice.” Ephesians 4:31
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government can want what ever they want but getting there hands on them will be another story , unless people decide to turn them in . Good luck to those citizens .
I am fully aware of what we are up against and have been for years. And I like you at one time thought I needed to degrade people to be heard. The problem with that line of thinking is not with the person with whom you are engaged (most often if you give them time they will undermine and degrade themselves) in a war of words but with those who are watching. Be careful you don’t shoot your friend, for the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Influence is everything! And if you blow it because you can’t control your emotions you have lost the fight already.
What we don't need right now is for another jackwagon to shoot someplace up.
The times. You are very far behind them. All these things of which you speak, have been exhausted.
No one is listening to your message anymore. Talk is no longer effective.
Is constant babble about talk not being effective any different from talk? It just sounds like talking about not talking, but with an air of machismo. It gets old.
No, worse, looks like he's had an account since 2013 (wasn't there a ban threat around then too?). Then nothing really until February, then a bunch of questions about AR's and 6.8 POF's. 16" 6.8's, because you know, he's doing his part to stop crime by not opting for the 12". Suppressors are okay though because he has one.
In short, he's the type of guy to be sure to give up your rights for you in case you're not willing.
I could light up this guy but I'll try to be more productive since I'm still not feeling too great after the covid shot:
Since 1A and 2A apparently aren't set in stone and totally open to petty regulations at whim, consider, what's to stop them from doing the same with the one outlawing slavery? Maybe that's not the "Right" you think it is either...
In the end it's just a piece of paper and only worth what we demand out of it.
Was it the first or second shot that nailed you? I just got my first, and didn't feel anything.
I have not made it to the next page yet. So forgive me if someone else has asked this.
Ohh and for the bonus question.... MOA or MIL's?
What is the lead on a running elk at 275 yards?
Ohh and for the bonus question.... MOA or MIL's?
It has to be close to 20 mils at full speed. Those fuckers will do 40mph. What is that? 5.5 meters?
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The OP has a kid in college and from his story he's about 70 years old.. Cool story there Shill
This is stupid for so many reasons, but I am not sure I can express why monosyllabically enough for you to understand. Nor sure if I could I would care to waste my time.
Telling someone who is a retard to fuck off is not throwing a fit, it is not "loosing you junk". Throwing a fit is what you are doing about us telling you retards to fuck off. Savvy? Loosing your junk is what the left did when they lost power. Yep, you can never win that way. Huh?
To be fair, he lives with his 50 year old college kid, in his 90 year old mother's basement.The OP has a kid in college and from his story he's about 70 years old.. Cool story there Shill
It is not compromise when you are the only one giving anything up. There is NOTHING reasonable (to use another word often expressed) about any gun laws, as so far not a single one has prevented any single death. FAR more (like many multiples) are killed with a suction tube, than any bullet of any caliber. Hell, kids on cell phones driving kill far more. THAT should be licensed, and restricted and background checked.
The OP posits that a violentperson should have limited capciaty magazines and maybe after a while a long gun. WTholy F? NO felon is allowed EVER to own a firearm except by special court order. Educate yourself, because right now you are an embarrassment.
The OP posits that a violentperson should have limited capciaty magazines and maybe after a while a long gun. WTholy F? NO felon is allowed EVER to own a firearm except by special court order. Educate yourself, because right now you are an embarrassment.
Rosa Parks was an employee of a civil rights orgnaization. She purposely boarded that bus to cause a stink, and she succeeded. She was no downtrodden poor black woman, she was on an assignment. Do some research before you start defending her just because she's black.
She should have been on that bus making a stink about the bullshit they were doing back then. Those people were heroes. IMO. They lived oppression, they fought oppression, and they won. Democrats have been pissed off ever since looking for someone to put in chains.
Which questionable killing of a black man by police didn't happen in a city under long term democrat control?
Which party celebrates killing babies (majority of whom are minorities)?
Which party has controlled every inner city slum (disproportionately populated by minorities) for decades, yet hasn't fixed even one?
Antebellum democrats used government to force people to pick their crops and said blacks didn't really count as people so it was legal to kill them.
Modern democrats use government to force people to pay for their health-care, welfare, and other freebies, and say unborn babies don't really count as people so it's legal to kill them.
Nothing has changed. Democrats have ALWAYS tried to live at the expense of others.
The King Soopers tragedy hit close to home as it is 1 mile from my son's college apartment and he usually shops there on Monday's - fortunately he was with me that night - It got me thinking about my position on an A/R ban - I have several in addition to my bolt guns. I wonder what would happen to existing legal owners - I have heard the government would pay for the weapons if they ever took them away. It would be interesting if I they would pay what we all paid - which could be quite pricey, especially when you include the scope.
I think the point of the 2nd amendment written by our forefathers has gone right over your head
Where do they get the money to "buy back" the guns?The King Soopers tragedy hit close to home as it is 1 mile from my son's college apartment and he usually shops there on Monday's - fortunately he was with me that night - It got me thinking about my position on an A/R ban - I have several in addition to my bolt guns. I wonder what would happen to existing legal owners - I have heard the government would pay for the weapons if they ever took them away. It would be interesting if I they would pay what we all paid - which could be quite pricey, especially when you include the scope.
I think the point of the 2nd amendment written by our forefathers has gone right over your head
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Imagine a person so pathetic they can look at the current federal government and say "Yep, those folks can run my life better than I can".
Imagine a lefty.
Imagine a lefty.
Careful, he's a boxer.
And he's ready to show off those skills
I hope the government doesn’t want to pay what my wife thinks I paid for guns. Too bad I lost all my guns in a tragic offshore boating accident
I had to pass a background check to get my guns. If i checked the govts background there is no way they would pass.
Would you care to elaborate on why your disagreeing with me?
He was the OP's guide, likes the beat the brush. Swinging for the opposition.
the more the nra kowtows and attempts to compromise, the more the left calls them racist white nationalists.
Wait 24 hours from injection. Most I know are reporting the 2nd is worse and commons symptoms seem to be lethargy, headaches, clouded thinking and nausea. Fades away by the following day from onset of symptoms. If you are over a certain age, neither seem to hit as bad, if at all.
The NRA needs replaced with an organization that doesn't betray its supporters by making deals with the progressives.
Lol the lefts only retort these days is calling someone a white nationalist. By default you are just supposed to melt away at the mere threat of the accusation.
Have you been on public transportation lately? I think any race at this point would agree to their own section of bus to get away from homeless junky crazy people.
I cant believe, the level of mental retardation in this thread.
This is, I believe, the 4th response of outrage over Mike's Rosa Parks comment.
Do any of you stupid mother fuckers understand satire? Irony? Sarcasm?
The world really has gone crazy.
Comical isn't it? Sometimes ya gotta just sit back and watch.
There's a time or four that I have missed the satire. So I have advocated for a specific font.
Sure. It was a joke made in response to your statement, primarily in reference to the always polite discourse of the Bear Pit.
Oh ... and fuck you, Fig.
I blame the warning labels.
Years ago, idiots would have weeded themselves out through natural selection.
But someone decided we needed to keep people who had to be told not to lean an aluminum ladder against high voltage lines.
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