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AFAIK they are direct sales only, is one of the factors why the reasonable price.you guys ordering straight from their site or somewhere else?
l know what I want for Christmas...I had the opportunity to get behind the
4-16 ep4 and the 4-16 sh4 today.
The turrets on the ep4 are way better, much more refined and tactile, even though they are 10 mil turrets and the sh4 are 8, it still has better feel to me.
The glass surprisingly was not very different from each other, I really couldn’t tell the difference even trying to get them both to wash out in the sun.
It was me and another guy trying to pick them apart and both of us couldn’t tell the difference.
The EP4 is still a better scope overall.
I heard rumors of a Gen 2 ep4 5-25x56 in the future.
For $350-385, you won't regret that purchase. You'll probably order more. LOLOk, I could not resist, with $100 off, ordered.
Possibly.For $350-385, you won't regret that purchase. You'll probably order more. LOL
The Arken HALO rings are pretty damn good for $60. I have them on my first Arken on my .260 Rem, and so far, solid as a rock.Possibly.
I got the accessory pack also.
Now rings, as I only have 30mm...
I just don’t think it’s a fair comparison. This is a very nice 350$-450$ scope. The strike eagle pulls ahead on glass, turret design and feel, and I think the ETR is better than the strike eagle.Anyone compare this scope to the
Athlon Optics Ares ETR 4.5-30x56 34mm APRS1 FFP IR MIL Reticle
?
I think the Midas tac is better, I’d put it in the next tier of comparison if I was looking at them.Im curious if this compares to the Athlon Midas Tac. I have one on my 7mm and love it, I have been contemplating getting another for my 6.5Grendel but the Arken is sounded real nice.
I’m sure that mount they sell is a good height. I’d see if they show how high it is and order the same height rings.what height rings are you guys using for AR platforms?
ha you're right. I should have just done that in the first place. cheersI’m sure that mount they sell is a good height. I’d see if they show how high it is and order the same height rings.
Good luck!ha you're right. I should have just done that in the first place. cheers
I think the Venom is the same scope as the Strike Eagle (same glass, tube, lenses, etc...) just less features (no locking turrets, no illuminated reticle, and the EBR-2 vs. the EBR-7C reticle).I just don’t think it’s a fair comparison. This is a very nice 350$-450$ scope. The strike eagle pulls ahead on glass, turret design and feel, and I think the ETR is better than the strike eagle.
I think a fair comparison would be,
SWFA fixed and 3-15s
Athlon Argos BTR Gen 2
Athlon halos Gen 2
Vortex venom
Vortex strike eagle
I think guys that would be in the market for a 500ish + or - 100ish dollars scope would be looking at all these scopes.
I haven’t handled the venom or the halos gen2 yet, I have several years with swfa and I have a strike eagle, I put strike eagle first and the Arken second.
I would almost bet the halos and venom would quickly take the position above swfa, just because of the lack of features on the swfa.
There’s a couple pics out there with them side by side (SE and Venom) and the bodies are different, I suspect the same glass, snd I’m not sure about internals since the elevation range is different.I think the Venom is the same scope as the Strike Eagle (same glass, tube, lenses, etc...) just less features (no locking turrets, no illuminated reticle, and the EBR-2 vs. the EBR-7C reticle).
Through my eyes, the SE and the Arken SH4 Gen2 are nearly identical at all the magnification ranges. Each have their pros and cons, but Side-by-side, I'd put them at an equal playing field in both features and solid construction.
I think the Venom is the same scope as the Strike Eagle (same glass, tube, lenses, etc...) just less features (no locking turrets, no illuminated reticle, and the EBR-2 vs. the EBR-7C reticle).
I've never seen them side-by-side. I always read they were the same thing, just less features... Sort of like how Vortex did the PST Gen1 vs the HS-T... Same exact scope, just less bells & whistles.It's not the same glass and tube. SE has a little better glass. Both have the 7C reticle.
Strike Eagle on left and Venom on right.
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Yup they are an older design like the Gen I PSTs but Vortex is upgrading the line as you see.I've never seen them side-by-side. I always read they were the same thing, just less features... Sort of like how Vortex did the PST Gen1 vs the HS-T... Same exact scope, just less bells & whistles.
I will say this, I do love my Strike Eagle 5-25x56 EBR-7C MRAD. For the money, it's a hell of a scope. If I could snap my fingers and turn all my HS-T's into Strike Eagles, I'd do it. My HS-T's have been excellent scopes, but that zero-stop system and pain in the ass turret reset system is kind of janky... I've always felt that way about them, but at the time when I bought them (when they came out) nothing out there competed in that price range.
It fills that role nicely, I have no regrets with it.Wouldn't call it a "knock off" but a more affodable option for people who want some similar features but want to stay below $700.
I guess that means I need to sell my HS-T's while they still have some value before the HS-T Gen2 comes out... LOLYup they are an older design like the Gen I PSTs but Vortex is upgrading the line as you see.
I think you were confusing the Diamondback Tactical with the 2C to the Venom with the 7C.
I just noticed... Is that Venom in a set of Arken HALO rings...?It's not the same glass and tube. SE has a little better glass. Both have the 7C reticle.
Strike Eagle on left and Venom on right.
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I ordered their mount, not qd but fine. CS was awesome, combined my orders, gave me free ship code so not overcharged on 2nd order, and was great to email back and forth with. Outstanding transaction all around.Good luck!
Any AR height rings would be fine I think.
Yeah, I have had a extremely good experience with them ever since I bought the EP4. There was some reports of ghosting for a minute, but I never experienced that at all.I ordered their mount, not qd but fine. CS was awesome, combined my orders, gave me free ship code so not overcharged on 2nd order, and was great to email back and forth with. Outstanding transaction all around.
I just noticed... Is that Venom in a set of Arken HALO rings...?
They're the nicest fitting and strongest $60 set of rings I've ever bought. Been impressed, myself. The set that's on my first Arken is rock-solid at 18 in/lbs. Also, the ring-gap is virtually non-existent on my set. Good engineering & good Q&A, leads to good products...Regardless of the price.Needed a cheap set of 34mm rings and the Vortex Pro Series stop at 30mm. They seem to do the job well.
They're the nicest fitting and strongest $60 set of rings I've ever bought. Been impressed, myself. The set that's on my first Arken is rock-solid at 18 in/lbs. Also, the ring-gap is virtually non-existent on my set. Good engineering & good Q&A, leads to good products...Regardless of the price.
I've got a set of Vortex Precisions in 34mm that my Strike Eagle sits in. They're built by Seekins, which is what I normally run on everything, and they're solid, as well. $140 a set, but they're built like a tank.
I like about 1/4" of clearance for the scope objective bell with a set of BC flip-caps, so, for me, the 0.92" rings about the perfect height with the 20 MOA rails, and still allows me to use a decent cheek-weld on a non-adjustable stock.Yup Seekins are my go to ring and have been since 2005. Never let me down.
The Arken rings are nice and I actually wish they had a hair more gap as I like the gap to set torque and see how the ring cap sits. Also I wish they didn’t go from the .92 right up to 1.26”. A 1” or 1.1” would have been better. That said for the $60 they are a good choice. I wanted a similar prices ring with scope to see what someone buying it might use and it works. The Strike Eagle has a used set of Warne Mountain Tech rings I got here used for around $70 if memory serves.
I like about 1/4" of clearance for the scope objective bell with a set of BC flip-caps, so, for me, the 0.92" rings about the perfect height with the 20 MOA rails, and still allows me to use a decent cheek-weld on a non-adjustable stock.
Nope, using Sendero/Varmint contour barrels and EGW HD 20MOA rails.With 56mm objectives and caps? You must be using high 20 moa rails or thinner contour barrels as they don’t work with any of my set ups except the one with a high 20 moa rail.
Nope, using Sendero/Varmint contour barrels and EGW HD 20MOA rails.
It's somewhere between 1/8-1/4" gap. Plenty enough to not interact with each other under recoil.
A 34mm 1.1" is exactly what I want for my T1x and 10/22Yup Seekins are my go to ring and have been since 2005. Never let me down.
The Arken rings are nice and I actually wish they had a hair more gap as I like the gap to set torque and see how the ring cap sits. Also I wish they didn’t go from the .92 right up to 1.26”. A 1” or 1.1” would have been better. That said for the $60 they are a good choice. I wanted a similar prices ring with scope to see what someone buying it might use and it works. The Strike Eagle has a used set of Warne Mountain Tech rings I got here used for around $70 if memory serves.
A 34mm 1.1" is exactly what I want for my T1x and 10/22
What is the objective and ocular measurements on the SH-4 gen2 6x24 for a cheap set of butler creek caps.
Cant find anything on their site.
I've only ever had 2-3 caps break in 25 years...Some free advice? Don't buy BC caps. They snap if looking at them. LOL So if you buy them buy a few sets.
I've broken more than that in a few months of matches. Hit them on anything they snap off. Haven't used them in years and would never go back especially with the better options today.I've only ever had 2-3 caps break in 25 years...