I wasn't paying close attention to this whole brace thing (stupidly) because I don't own one. But, I think this is merely a challenge to see what laws the ATF or even executive order can be passed, without Congress or SCOTUS support, and they can get away with.
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ATF director on Brace Rule when grilled by Congress
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I wasn't paying close attention to this whole brace thing (stupidly) because I don't own one. But, I think this is merely a challenge to see what laws the ATF or even executive order can be passed, without Congress or SCOTUS support, and they can get away with.
I have a spoiler alert for you. All elections have already been decided and whomever the NWO goon is will be winning...all of the races...forever. These ding dongs pretending to get tough on the big bad AFT guy are just actors.
These congressional hearings are fake. Elections are fake. Fox news and the "conservative" talking heads are fake. They are there doing their part to buy time by making you believe there is a chance to save this. Stop falling for this. Get right with your creator.
Here's a spoiler alert for you. The enemies of We the People need to get right with their creator, what ever it is.
You seem to have issues with those that tell it like it is instead of repeating false narratives fed from above to keep people propagandized and brainwashed. You would do well as a paid statist over at FOX or your propaganda network of choice. You sure spread shit thick already at your leisure. May as well go professional. You should at least make a post every now and again in the firearm or optics sections to maybe have a chance of being seen as somewhat authentic by someone not paying attention.
Now Matt Gaetz jumps right in the middle of the ATF Director's ass, not that anything will become of it.
And people wonder what black hole guns go in to when cops and ATF 'get another gun off the street that could be used to shoot an officer.'
They get 'stolen' by someone on the inside at the shredder and wind up in a LEO safe or back on the street to be used in firearm related crimes that further fuel the Gun Ban agenda.
And people wonder what black hole guns go in to when cops and ATF 'get another gun off the street that could be used to shoot an officer.'
They get 'stolen' by someone on the inside at the shredder and wind up in a LEO safe or back on the street to be used in firearm related crimes that further fuel the Gun Ban agenda.
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no guns were lost.... they stolen...
and the business losing the FFL was real and some complete bullshit. Trade Winds Pawn shop.
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Good to see Matt Mentioning this case that caused a local with 46 years under his belt to lose his business. Pay attention to post #20 in the link above.
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What hasn't anyone asked the director if they are allowed to make laws......instead of enforcing them.
Then say since y'all can't make laws this BS is null in void.......
It truly is that simple.....
Doc
Then say since y'all can't make laws this BS is null in void.......
It truly is that simple.....
Doc
Only way for this madness to stop is either Congress repeals the NFA, or the supreme court strikes this down. Otherwise, this won't stop. The ATF will continue to strip our rights because no one in Congress has the balls to say no to the executive branch. The democrats in congress don't believe in separation of power in government as long as their objectives are met.
You mean like that guy "ImADorkis" regarding the border? MOFO didn't answer a damn yes/no question. If Congress had balls they'd jail them for contempt OF Congress. Granted, I'd bet 99.999999999% of people in the USA have contempt FOR Congress.
Definitely not a team of chimpanzees. Chimpanzees are smarter (by I'd venture up to 50 pts of IQ) than 75% of our Congress and at least 99.5% of the people that work in support of Congress.
Do you believe it’s a democrat only thing? You would be mistaken. Power corrupts which is why it’s wise to not give men near limitless amounts of other people’s money, then let them build a domestic army to serve and protect them (police). It doesn’t matter if its a monarchy, dictatorship, or supposed “representative” democracy. Rule by one or rule by many ends the same way. Tyranny. This is why the wiser of us have a disdain for government. It’s forced by the barrel of a gun always and without exception. If it was so fucking wonderful, this wouldn’t be necessary. But hey, keep thinking it’s dem vs repub when it’s actually gov staring across from us.
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Do you believe there are still democrats and republicans? You would be mistaken. There is the Uniparty and then everyone else. That "everyone else party" is made up of those who haven't been bought yet and those who are not going to get "invited" to join the Congressional Clown Club
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They need to actually do something about it. I'm glad she's speaking truth to this doosh but that doesn't DO anything.
"...(the brave men and women) who work for me"
Fuck you. I get so tired of hearing that.
Your job is not as dangerous as a lone convenience store clerk working the grave yard shift or an ER nurse.
If you're so fucking afraid of the American people you have to constantly preface each statement with 'the brave men and women' of ATF, then you view the American people as the enemy and you have something up your sleeve.
I hear ya, and understand the frustration. Don't think I am aloof to the "guberment"
I do not think its going to be a light switch in change that you and many wish, gotta keep building support, slow grind. Like trench war fare but with pens, lawyers judges and speeches. Keep building support, I think that is what this does. Highlights just how corrupt the ATF is when it comes to firearms,over stepping their purpose. These representatives need to pull the damn reigns on them, and not allow them to flip flop laws like they have shown a tendency to do.
It's definitely what the Left is doing, except they have the liberal media doing their heavy lifting. Note how they report about a newly arrived vanload of illegals from Honduras getting shot up by a nutjob in Houston.
They don't point out that ten illegals were nested up in one house, only that the shooter used 'an AR style' rifle.
Texas mass shooting suspect could be anywhere, sheriff says
Editor’s Note: This story includes video of the top headlines for Monday, May 1, 2023. CLEVELAND, Texas (AP) — The search for a Texas man who allegedly shot his neighbors after they asked him to st…
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Yep, here is an example of one.It's definitely what the Left is doing, except they have the liberal media doing their heavy lifting. Note how they report about a newly arrived vanload of illegals from Honduras getting shot up by a nutjob in Houston.
They don't point out that ten illegals were nested up in one house, only that the shooter used 'an AR style' rifle.
Texas mass shooting suspect could be anywhere, sheriff says
Editor’s Note: This story includes video of the top headlines for Monday, May 1, 2023. CLEVELAND, Texas (AP) — The search for a Texas man who allegedly shot his neighbors after they asked him to st…
When the ATF Director stated "I shot a bumpstock. There is no way you can fire a single bullet. Absolutely no way." she should have responded "So based on that, that gives ATF the right to bypass Congress and make it's own laws?...Mr Director, does Joe Biden wipe his dick off on you? And I'll remind you, you're under oath."
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You mentioned the border jumpers... wanted to share this.It's definitely what the Left is doing, except they have the liberal media doing their heavy lifting. Note how they report about a newly arrived vanload of illegals from Honduras getting shot up by a nutjob in Houston.
They don't point out that ten illegals were nested up in one house, only that the shooter used 'an AR style' rifle.
Texas mass shooting suspect could be anywhere, sheriff says
Editor’s Note: This story includes video of the top headlines for Monday, May 1, 2023. CLEVELAND, Texas (AP) — The search for a Texas man who allegedly shot his neighbors after they asked him to st…
Don't worry, the wave of illegals coming across the border are only the one's trying to escape the violence and poverty.
He'll get an 'attaboy' from Obiden and the communistDemocrats for not answering one single question from the enemy.
You might want to recheck what a dollar would buy in 1933.
Machine guns were EXTREMELY expensive.
1918 BAR $198
I'm not sure if that was current price for 1933 or not. Best I could find.
Thompson, I found an ad from '29
Here for reference, here is a Ford ad from '27
As I said, extremely, expensive.
They were not "cheap" many guns were in fact cheap, but not full auto weapons.
They have never been "cheap".
I agree, just watch "Chimp Empire" on Nflix you will see they surpass most all of our current idiots on the NWO bandwagon and it's never going to stop just in case you think voting is the answer........
What if in 2012 pistol braces were classified as a SBR from the onset, do you think 40M law abiding people would have ignored the law and purchased an unregistered pistol with a brace while still avoiding buying an unregisreted SBR?
It was a trap built and baited in 2012 during the Obama Administration and once the trap was full of 40+M gunowners, the trap was sprung. And just like that, 40+M law abiding, Constitutional upholding Americans would be criminals.
It was a trap built and baited in 2012 during the Obama Administration and once the trap was full of 40+M gunowners, the trap was sprung. And just like that, 40+M law abiding, Constitutional upholding Americans would be criminals.
On Monday things just got a bit more interesting...
www.cbsnews.com
Supreme Court agrees to hear case that could curb power of federal agencies
The case presents the court with a chance to overrule a nearly 40-year-old decision giving deference to federal agencies.
www.cbsnews.com
On the other hand, this might prove to be a major downfall for the NFA. If these so called "unregistered" SBRs/SBS were suddenly classified as such because of the brace it could mean that these firearms would be classified under common use by recent supreme court decisions. It could then be argued that because these firearms are now under common use, the government cannot regulate them under NFA
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