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The one you have - when they come knocking at 4:00 AM - is the one you can't have.So which are they referring to? They say some may and some may not be..
They will clearly explain that to you after they mirandize and cuff you……..So which are they referring to? They say some may and some may not be..
According to the laws, "release" is not specified...only "actuation of the trigger" iirc....the FRT trigger does technically require separate "actuations" per round fired.
Essentially the AFT is making decisions based on how they want the law to work...and not based off how the law is written.
If I take a zip tie and zip down a FA trigger...it will continue to fire
If I zip down a SA trigger...it will fire once
If I zip down a FRT trigger...it will also only fire once.
The one you have - when they come knocking at 4:00 AM - is the one you can't have.
Also pet your dog before you go to bed - every night - because you don't know what will happen before morning.
They will clearly explain that to you after they mirandize and cuff you……..
Hard to arrest you if you know you have one and get rid of itMy interpretation of the letter is that some FRTs will allow more than one shot to be fired per actuation. Since the letter doesn't say which ones those are, here we are.
"Our present Government can be best described as Monkeys Covered in Gasoline Playing with Matches"Hard to arrest you if you know you have one and get rid of it
Thank you. Wish I could take credit for it"Our present Government can be best described as Monkeys Covered in Gasoline Playing with Matches"
Love the sig line!
My interpretation is that ultimately, anything that “mimics” full auto will not be left alone until they have all like items banned. Simpler way to put it is follow the money. They ain’t getting any for these items, and that makes them angry. God knows we can’t have the gubment running around making angry poor noises.My interpretation of the letter is that some FRTs will allow more than one shot to be fired per actuation. Since the letter doesn't say which ones those are, here we are.
What happens to each trigger when you cut the zip tie?According to the laws, "release" is not specified...only "actuation of the trigger" iirc....the FRT trigger does technically require separate "actuations" per round fired.
Essentially the AFT is making decisions based on how they want the law to work...and not based off how the law is written.
If I take a zip tie and zip down a FA trigger...it will continue to fire
If I zip down a SA trigger...it will fire once
If I zip down a FRT trigger...it will also only fire once.
"Our present Government can be best described as Monkeys Covered in Gasoline Playing with Matches"
Love the sig line!
Does it matter? That’s a separate action…..What happens to each trigger when you cut the zip tie?
..... and claim it's for the children....This attempt will fail. It's not the ATF's job to interpret the law. But fear not, our nutless congressman will be more than happy to sneak a new law into some bullshit bill and pass it in the middle of the night.
The children of Waco...... and claim it's for the children....
I don't know, does it? I was just curious if the FRT fired a round when the trigger reset when released.Does it matter? That’s a separate action…..
Didn’t work for bumpstocks either did itThis attempt will fail. It's not the ATF's job to interpret the law. But fear not, our nutless congressman will be more than happy to sneak a new law into some bullshit bill and pass it in the middle of the night.
So to be legal what steps would one need to take. Is there a route over confiscation if someone already ownes one but doesn’t have it registered.
No. It stops firing all together..I don't know, does it? I was just curious if the FRT fired a round when the trigger reset when released.
They'll bring their own evidence if they want you bad enough. The USA we grew up in no longer exists.Why would they do that? I don't have shit..
You should feel lucky they let you have cheeriosBooo.
The fun police roll in and pee in our cheerios again.
Yeah you're not wrong..They'll bring their own evidence if they want you bad enough. The USA we grew up in no longer exists.
Bumpstocks were banned by executive order by Trump, but thanks for playing.Didn’t work for bumpstocks either did it
He actually signed a memorandum for the AG to effectively destroy them with any means necessary. That looked like the AFT redefining a machine gun wording. With that, they were given free reign to “redefine” anytime they felt the need too. More of this fuckery will continue until they have change every definition we know and all is illegal or so hard to get, common folk will not possess them. That is the end state.Bumpstocks were banned by executive order by Trump, but thanks for playing.
Here is the working directly from the DOJ They are continuing the witch hunt because this is an open ended order to them to eliminate anything that speeds up the rate of fireBumpstocks were banned by executive order by Trump, but thanks for playing.
Once labeled machine gun, if they have a sales receipt they will come after the end user for constructive intent. I put my money on that being the catch all warranty and some liberal judge will say, “sounds good to me”Just because you purchased it doesn’t mean you still have it, nor does that purchase provide probable cause to believe it’s in your house.
“Go away, dick. Come back with a warrant.”
Baby steps, NFA in 42, 1986 cease production for “transferable”, and the big step of the AWB. Thank one had an end date. We won’t be so lucky with this in the future if they keep inching away like they areWell fuck, look what they are/were trying to do with "assault weapons"
"Oh we're not trying to ban all guns...just 'assault weapons'...."
And when you ask them to define "assault weapon"....it turns out it's any gun with a detachable magazine or fires semi auto....or pretty much all guns.....
I think that’s a stretch. I’ve sworn out search warrants before and I wouldn’t dare try to put some thin shit like that in an affidavit. But, that’s just me.Once labeled machine gun, if they have a sales receipt they will come after the end user for constructive intent. I put my money on that being the catch all warranty and some liberal judge will say, “sounds good to me”
Just because you purchased it doesn’t mean you still have it, nor does that purchase provide probable cause to believe it’s in your house.
“Go away, dick. Come back with a warrant.”
Congress has to expressly give consent to them for them to retroactively charge an end user with constructive intent.Once labeled machine gun, if they have a sales receipt they will come after the end user for constructive intent. I put my money on that being the catch all warranty and some liberal judge will say, “sounds good to me”
I absolutely agree that this pain is self inflicted. Not only do the products in question try to skirt the law, they are blatantly marketed as such attempts with mag dump videos showing the potential customer how well the objective of circumventing the law has been achieved.What they are doing is going after every modification that looks like it’s trying to skate around the current laws.
Think about it, rarely are crimes committed with any of the items they’re trying to ban. However every person who owns one feels the need to go on YouTube and wave it in the face of the ATF
They watch a video where it appears the gun fires in full auto….then go after said product that accomplished this
They see someone doing a review on a solvent trap. Where after they form 1 it make it very clear what the intentions were when purchased
Hey look at my AR pistol, it goes from “can I touch to my shoulder” to guys doing mag dumps from the shoulder and making videos on it
They’ll pursue everything that
- looks like a suppressor (goodbye solvent trap)
- looks like an SBR (goodbye pistol brace)
- sounds like full auto (goodbye FRT/Binary)
Anyone who’s paid attention in the last 10 years can’t truly be surprised that the ATF is doing this