I haven’t met a person yet that likes them. (The PSR that cants and pans). Who likes them and why? A Harris better.
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Atlas PSR. What are they good for?
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I have one and I like it well enough.
I got there b/c I needed something taller than a Harris 6-9, and was coming from an old school AI bipod - which pans & tilts, is sloppy loose, and what I prefer. The PRS is not that. Even with all the slack out on the PRS there is way more tension and not as much travel. If the travel bothers someone, they can crank the dial (tension) down.
While not a popular thought, I wish someone made a QD for a pic rail with a female spigot so I could use my sloppy AI bipod on everything. (AI makes something close, they just don't sell it here).
I got there b/c I needed something taller than a Harris 6-9, and was coming from an old school AI bipod - which pans & tilts, is sloppy loose, and what I prefer. The PRS is not that. Even with all the slack out on the PRS there is way more tension and not as much travel. If the travel bothers someone, they can crank the dial (tension) down.
While not a popular thought, I wish someone made a QD for a pic rail with a female spigot so I could use my sloppy AI bipod on everything. (AI makes something close, they just don't sell it here).
I like both of my atlas bipods, I’ve got a V8 and PSR and I’ve been running them for everything from PRS matches to field matches and everything thing in between. They aren’t the newest coolest or more technology advanced thing around but they are built to handle pretty much anything they will encounter.
If I recall the psr was originally for the military contract? I love my atlas cal, and the only difference between them is it doesn't pan
I’ve got a couple, they’re fine. CAL is life though, I won’t buy any more PSR/V8s etc.
I like them fine, as I do the Cal for some shooting or my RRS tripod for others. There are instances in the field where you can benefit from panning as well as matches with movers.
Have not come across those instances where the bipod being out of square helps anything
Well, track a mover, shoot in the snow or mud where the only sold place doesn’t line up straight like a miss-shaped rock- you’ll find them if you look.
That said tripods do much of that work if your carting one; and I’m going to carry a tripod in the field hunting or at felid matches long before I’ll carry a 6-7lbs GC - our PRS matches are a different story. BTW most just use the bipod as a staging device for our positional matches anyway.
Atlas PSR is awesome in my experience. As long as the tightness is checked during my pre-stage checklist, it’s not as issue with it being loose or flopping around during a stage.
I’m always a little confused with everyone’s hatred for panning. At PRS matches it is common to have multiple targets to engage at different lateral locations, and having a bipod a mile away on an 18” long forend, coupled with a 10# barrel, makes it really difficult to pick up the forend and move it while on the clock. Being able to pan with the bipod makes that a lot easier, in addition to something like a mover stage.
I’m always a little confused with everyone’s hatred for panning. At PRS matches it is common to have multiple targets to engage at different lateral locations, and having a bipod a mile away on an 18” long forend, coupled with a 10# barrel, makes it really difficult to pick up the forend and move it while on the clock. Being able to pan with the bipod makes that a lot easier, in addition to something like a mover stage.
Idk anyone that pans to shoot movers. They ambush them.
Don’t see how a out of square bipod helps with snow or mud either. Haven’t seen a rock yet where that helps.
Don’t see how a out of square bipod helps with snow or mud either. Haven’t seen a rock yet where that helps.
It would be nice if there was a PSR v2 that didn’t pan but retained the rest of the form factor with a slightly improved tension wheel underneath to control cant.
I like my PRS. When loaded against a railroad tie shooting prone the swivel off square is very helpful to move between targets spread across the range at 500+ yards.
I also like my Accu-Tac that is rock solid.
The tension wheel sucks but Victor makes a tool to tighten it if you’re not familiar with that.
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Honestly, it’s easier to ambush multiple shots on long mover tracks if you can pan. Otherwise, you are torqueing hard on your bipod or hopping it or just not getting in all the shots you need for the stage.
OK, you don't see it.
Obviously, you're missing the point about mud and snow where they do not provide a surface to use a short ass bipod from because they are not solid and sink to the barrel. The next time you're in deep snow and only have a small irregular area that is solid and above the snow; that doesn't provide a good footprint to square up and set your bipod, remember this conversation.
Sure you could maybe use the pack or as I prefer anyway, the RRS in deep snow.
Again, I am not saying the pan feature is a "must" but there are cases that it provides value to some who might want it. As mentioned I find less and less value for a bipod away from the square range period with the advancement in light sturdy tripods.
edited to take out my pissyness- (sp)
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Negative.
Glad to see how some people like them and are using them. I was at a class and there were a couple. They all had issues with them. I and some friends had them before that and didn’t like them. Switched to a cal. 100x better.
And agree with you about the RRS.
I took that pissy part of my post out - I need to change my panties this morning.
The tension wheel sucks but Victor makes a tool to tighten it if you’re not familiar with that.
BUILT FOR COMPETITION
I’m sure it works well and I am familiar with it. To me it’s just one more thing to lose or forget. It doesn’t really solve the scenario just provides more tension.
What issues did you witness other students having? What this an “operator” class, PRS, general precision rifle...?
It’s a data point of one, but using a PSR for 5 years and having no issues, I’m struggling to see what would cause people to have critical issue that would warrant needing to switch to something else. The only common thing is “the pan wasn’t tightened down”.
It’s all a matter of degrees. Lol
Wide F-class like Joypods being the very easiest to shoot, then hybrid bipods like the LRA to the the Cal and finally PRS or Clyde - one end is the most stable the other the most flexible.
The PSRs & V8, tension knobs do tend to come loose and then they do not keep enough tension and a less experienced shooter will find that they’re out of square or tilted only after something points it out to them.
basically if you shoot a shit ton at the range on a bench or prone, you’ll find the bigger, wider and less flexible bipods better. But some of these might not be the best choice for hunting, field matches etc
They are better now I'm sure, but when shooting a mover stage with the 1st gen Atlas, it had moved almost parallel(exaggerated) to the rifle by the end of the stage. Then fought it throughout the weekend. I sold it ASAP.
I wouldn't mind buying a CAL though.
Someone commented about "picking up the rifle", nope no need, just tilt the rifle to left if right handed and pivot on the left leg, then set it back down in the new direction.
works ok, until you’re in weeds and sliding gets rough- one of the SH cup had a mover in medium high weeds. btw- this is all splitting hairs.
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Hi, I am Kasey, I love Atlas PSR (that cants and pans).
Why you ask? Well, in dynamic shooting situations where you are traveling light, do not know where or how you will be presented a shot, the Atlas PSR (Pan/Cant bipod) allows a lot of flexibility that non-panning bipods simply cannot deliver. And to be clear, "Pan" means just that, you can "pan" over to a stationary target that is 7 degrees (or more) out of "perpendicular". I found this to be helpful - http://www.accu-shot.com/Atlas_Bipod_Uses_Application.php
I hear the "not square with the bore" comment and ask, at what range does this PROVE to be an issue?
I have to admit I like my CAL. But, as a newbie, I have a ways to go. Still on the fence with panning as experience seems to be the real tell.
This phrase is going to come back in style. I am so looking forward to the next for years. ROTFL.
I lead (or in your words "pan") movers. I was taught both ways, and leading the target works better for me, especially at longer distances.
I use and prefer the Atlas V8 and PSR over any other bipod out there, and I've tried most of them.
I have all three. The BT10 V8 and the PSR are both great and have served me well over the years. I won’t get rid of them but now they are on my 22lrs. I have the CAL now on my AIs and won’t be looking back. I don’t compete and only shoot from a bench or prone so I feel like the CAL offers me everything I could ever want.
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I have 2 PSR, 1 CAL, and 1 SCAL. I use the PSR all the time when ground hog hunting and I take both the PSR and CAL when I hog hunt in Florida. I don't have a tripod yet. Having the pan feature does come in handy for second and third shots at a group of pigs when they start running. I will probably sell 1 of the PSR this year since I have not taken the black one out of the safe in over a year. We just need to convince @Kasey to make another run of naked bipods and include the SCAL this time. I would like to see an upgraded version with a pod lock style knob vs the current knob.
Some of you dudes must not believe in ball heads either.
I can see the tripod advice now, “Don’t use a ball head, n00b. Bolt that gun directly to the tripod. Just leave one leg down and pivot the tripod where you want it. This way, the tripod legs are always in the optimal position for recoil.”
I have no idea about matches. I’m not a comp shooter. I defer to Frank et al.
But, I like shooting prairie dogs. They don’t stay still, and they don’t move in a predicable manner (can’t aim up ahead, usually). Most PD shooters shoot from a bench.
A less then ideal position, fundamental-wise, and actually hitting the little buggers often is better than constantly resetting position and rarely shooting. The former will net you more kills, the latter will really piss you off as your “imperfect” buddy hits PD after PD while you shuffle your rig .0001 degrees, over and over again, not pulling the trigger, PDs scampering just out of reticle’s reach.
Horses for courses.
I can see the tripod advice now, “Don’t use a ball head, n00b. Bolt that gun directly to the tripod. Just leave one leg down and pivot the tripod where you want it. This way, the tripod legs are always in the optimal position for recoil.”
I have no idea about matches. I’m not a comp shooter. I defer to Frank et al.
But, I like shooting prairie dogs. They don’t stay still, and they don’t move in a predicable manner (can’t aim up ahead, usually). Most PD shooters shoot from a bench.
A less then ideal position, fundamental-wise, and actually hitting the little buggers often is better than constantly resetting position and rarely shooting. The former will net you more kills, the latter will really piss you off as your “imperfect” buddy hits PD after PD while you shuffle your rig .0001 degrees, over and over again, not pulling the trigger, PDs scampering just out of reticle’s reach.
Horses for courses.
I should say I own an Elite Iron panning model, Scal with ski feet, and a new LRA lite F-class. Oh, and a Harris non-swivel model that I got for free, and that works well for small-caliber rifles that only have a sling stud for mounting.
If you want more flexibility with a non-panning bipod on a bench, either get some ski feet or place a kneeling pad under the bipod. The pad needs to be able to rotate, but not too slippery.
Anyone have some LRA ski feet they want to give me? Lol. They don’t make them anymore (not yet, anyway).
If you want more flexibility with a non-panning bipod on a bench, either get some ski feet or place a kneeling pad under the bipod. The pad needs to be able to rotate, but not too slippery.
Anyone have some LRA ski feet they want to give me? Lol. They don’t make them anymore (not yet, anyway).
The only Atlas i own is the PSR with QD that i share between several rifles and havent found a downside to it yet.
The issue i have seen mentioned several times about the tension knob i havent found any issue with. I dont crank mine down just snug with two fingers and it stays put during shooting, the soft rubber feet are a great improvement over the hard rubber on the Harris bipods i have as they easilly bite even on smooth concrete as opposed to just sliding.
The issue i have seen mentioned several times about the tension knob i havent found any issue with. I dont crank mine down just snug with two fingers and it stays put during shooting, the soft rubber feet are a great improvement over the hard rubber on the Harris bipods i have as they easilly bite even on smooth concrete as opposed to just sliding.
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