Australia to cull 10,000 camels due to drought

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    All of those camels will be shot by helicopter. Back in the day the M14/M1A was the rifle of choice for feral eradication.
    Hanging outside the helo and shooting from above.

    We did ours off the bike, this is on private property. 1.3 million acres, thats alot of real estate.



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    they should cull the political class and leave the camels out of it . one is destructive to all life on the planet vrs the camel that is just an animal easily able to be useful in some way beneficial to communities and or people and politicians which have no use well no legal use . Moving targets gets two thumbs up sacerfices to a god in a volcano Im in favor of that one .
     
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    they were brought over for transport early on

    they planted bush squash all over that over the years became toxic and inedible

    as for drought its came and went over the years its just that part of the cycle atm
     
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    Per the article the real problem is that they are invading the aboriginal villages looking for water.
     
    #12
    aam said:
    All of those camels will be shot by helicopter. Back in the day the M14/M1A was the rifle of choice for feral eradication.
    Hanging outside the helo and shooting from above.

    We did ours off the bike, this is on private property. 1.3 million acres, thats alot of real estate.
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    Wait, I thought nobody needed military rifles for hunting.:ROFLMAO:
     
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    Introduced and invasive species cause significant ecological problems wherever they occur. Try building any major federally permitted linear project and you are going to have to have invasive species mitigation plans and potentially huge costs to implement depending on location/species involved. But mention feral horse removal and you're the Devil incarnate.
     
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    Waorani said:
    Introduced and invasive species cause significant ecological problems wherever they occur. Try building any major federally permitted linear project and you are going to have to have invasive species mitigation plans and potentially huge costs to implement depending on location/species involved. But mention feral horse removal and you're the Devil incarnate.
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    Waorani said:
    Introduced and invasive species cause significant ecological problems wherever they occur. Try building any major federally permitted linear project and you are going to have to have invasive species mitigation plans and potentially huge costs to implement depending on location/species involved. But mention feral horse removal and you're the Devil incarnate.
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    Especially in "isolated" places like Australia and New Zealand.

    The life is "oddly" evolved due to the unique environment.

    Its odd to me that no large predator ever developed out there.

    I think the Dingo is it and everyone knows they get their fill of babies.
     
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    pmclaine said:
    Especially in "isolated" places like Australia and New Zealand.

    The life is "oddly" evolved due to the unique environment.

    Its odd to me that no large predator ever developed out there.

    I think the Dingo is it and everyone knows they get their fill of babies.
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    Maybe they should try "reintroducing" wolves.....
     
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    Seems wrong to kill these animals wantonly, but I am a bit of a softy when it comes to animals. No, I'm not opposed to hunting or eliminating invasive species. But camels are pretty useful animals. Hell, they store gallons of water in their humps. People have killed them for their water stores in dire situations. At least that is understandable.

    Now, I know jackshit about the interior geography of Australia. But if they are in desert areas, just how much damage are they actually doing?
     
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    Arc Light said:
    Seems wrong to kill these animals wantonly, but I am a bit of a softy when it comes to animals. No, I'm not opposed to hunting or eliminating invasive species. But camels are pretty useful animals. Hell, they store gallons of water in their humps. People have killed them for their water stores in dire situations. At least that is understandable.

    Now, I know jackshit about the interior geography of Australia. But if they are in desert areas, just how much damage are they actually doing?
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    As the article states, the real damage is that they are invading the Aboriginal village to get water and wreaking havoc and harming people.
     
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    aprocast said:
    Camel actually tastes really good
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    Arc Light said:
    Seems wrong to kill these animals wantonly, but I am a bit of a softy when it comes to animals. No, I'm not opposed to hunting or eliminating invasive species. But camels are pretty useful animals. Hell, they store gallons of water in their humps. People have killed them for their water stores in dire situations. At least that is understandable.

    Now, I know jackshit about the interior geography of Australia. But if they are in desert areas, just how much damage are they actually doing?
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    The environment simply can not sustain the numbers of animals. Not enough forage, not enough water, so they push out and deprive native species that evolved to survive in that ecosystem.

    Same with North American feral horses - they are destroying the brittle desert environment. Other native wildlife suffers as they can’t compete for the same resources. Horses will destroy springs and turn them into dangerous mudhole, I assume camels are the same.

    Nevada should kill 10,000 horses just to get started. Seriously.
     
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    HayStax said:
    The environment simply can not sustain the numbers of animals. Not enough forage, not enough water, so they push out and deprive native species that evolved to survive in that ecosystem.

    Same with North American feral horses - they are destroying the brittle desert environment. Other native wildlife suffers as they can’t compete for the same resources. Horses will destroy springs and turn them into dangerous mudhole, I assume camels are the same.

    Nevada should kill 10,000 horses just to get started. Seriously.
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    You're Satan! :cool:
     
    #33
    Some of you didn’t really read the article, where it states that there are over a million wild camels in Australia. Comparatively speaking, 10,000 is a drop in the bucket. The eradication is expected to last 5 days. 2000 camels a day. They are not messing around.
     
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    Waorani said:
    But mention feral horse removal and you're the Devil incarnate.
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    Lol same as Australia, feral horses are the reason the government lowered the speed limit on a local stretch of road instead of shooting them out. Another small group of horses appeared near a town, feeding under a bridge. The town had a meeting and no conclusion was reached because culling is cruel, all of the horses died after deciding to run into traffic.

    pmclaine said:
    Its odd to me that no large predator ever developed out there.
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    There was carnivorous mega fauna, 5-6m goannas, possible similar sized terrestrial crocodiles and marsupial lions.
    The theory is that Australia got dryer putting stress on their herbivorous mega fauna prey. Along came the aboriginals and the slow breeding prey species were all eaten, thus extincting the carnivores.

    Best guesses in Australia is that feral cats kill over one billion mammals, 500 million reptiles and 300 million birds each year.
    A feral pig was shot and found with over 300 baby sea turtles in its stomach.
    Any feral species should be killed on sight.
     
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    Wild-Free Roaming Horses and Burros Act of 1971. https://www.blm.gov/programs/wild-horse-and-burro/about-the-program

    Had a wild burro step in a bore hole that was left unplugged on a project in AZ 10yrs ago. Broke leg, stuck and dead by the time anyone found it. You would have thought we were shooting baby seals for all the commotion it caused. I had to have someone go check inside lip for (tattoo which there was).
     
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    Arc Light said:
    Seems wrong to kill these animals wantonly, but I am a bit of a softy when it comes to animals. No, I'm not opposed to hunting or eliminating invasive species. But camels are pretty useful animals. Hell, they store gallons of water in their humps. People have killed them for their water stores in dire situations. At least that is understandable.

    Now, I know jackshit about the interior geography of Australia. But if they are in desert areas, just how much damage are they actually doing?
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    You are an idiot, in more ways than one.
    i can assure you there is no water in a camels hump.
     
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