BadgeCam from the Weezer Wife Shooting

[nagantguy]

In debate that's what's called a strawman argument. You've twisted what I've said and then refuted and ridiculed me for your own incorrect summary of my statement.

I can't recall saying that this lady should have been shot, only that it was a predictable outcome of not dropping the gun when ordered by police to do so.

For myself I would prefer not to be shot. Thus continuing my preamble right to life liberty and pursuit of happiness.

Seriously I don’t understand your argument at all , not a personal attack or anything fun aside . It’s not okay she got shot in her yard while doing nothing illegal- but it’s okay she got shot because she did t listen to someone on the other side of a fence yelling at her.
Who she clearly thought was the person everyone was looking for - the dick that fled the traffic stop.

So either folks are free to walk around their yard and own guns - that they can bear - or it’s okay to shoot people whom own a gun in their own yard at random for no reason .

 

[Makinchips208]

That's WILD as hell... they became completely distracted from their jobs because they thought they could collect a Sport Kill off a mom defending her home from... the actual Criminals they were pursuing!



These guys just wanted to kill an American for any possible reason, and were wracking their brains harder than they ever thought about anything in their lives to get to the top of the escalation ladder and use lethal force.

They wanted to KILL- and any target they came across was A-OK, and any outcome.... including allowing the Criminals they were pursuing to escape... was just fine with them.

They claim she shot at them, but why were they pointing their weapons at her, and who shot first?

I know we're heading in the opposite direction, but an example needs to be made... and we should start NOW with these dirtbags.

And also- on the efficacy of pistols in gunfighting, she got shot in the shoulder and walked off, only to be apprehended much later. A 51 year old woman...

Holy cow! She had a Glock 9mm!!!!

 

[jbuck88]

Whatever your point of view you should know that if ever you find yourself in a situation where a police officer is ordering you to drop something then drop it.

If she did not know they were police, sucks to be her.

As armed citizens you should err on the side of not involving yourself in active police matters. The danger of confused misunderstanding is too great.

Let's hope criminals never learn that cheat code. I'm sure they would never lie though. So chances are you can believe everything anyone says.

 

[nagantguy]

https://www.newsmax.com/us/ice-criminal-aliens-arrests/2025/04/29/id/1208808/

This is odd ; Feds mostly ICE have arrested almost 67,000 criminal illegal immigrants in the last 100 days - about 700 a day; worst of the worst . Guns drugs rape murder child fuckers - often in groups like the other day in CO a 114 at a time - without a shot being fired and no old ladies being beaten or shot - not one . How are they doing this ; without living in sheer terror and shooting everyone in their path? This side of the fence that side inside outside ?

 

[clcustom1911]

That's WILD as hell... they became completely distracted from their jobs because they thought they could collect a Sport Kill off a mom defending her home from... the actual Criminals they were pursuing!



These guys just wanted to kill an American for any possible reason, and were wracking their brains harder than they ever thought about anything in their lives to get to the top of the escalation ladder and use lethal force.

They wanted to KILL- and any target they came across was A-OK, and any outcome.... including allowing the Criminals they were pursuing to escape... was just fine with them.

They claim she shot at them, but why were they pointing their weapons at her, and who shot first?

I know we're heading in the opposite direction, but an example needs to be made... and we should start NOW with these dirtbags.

And also- on the efficacy of pistols in gunfighting, she got shot in the shoulder and walked off, only to be apprehended much later. A 51 year old woman...

An absolute perfect exercise in stupidity on all involved participants. She's depressed and probably drunk mid day, because rockstar wife. Not breaking the law by having a gun on her property, loves the Pravda/NKVD but hates cops, but only cops should have guns because average leftist white woman who demonstrates the need to repeal the 19th Amendment.

The cops are complete imbeciles in the truesense of the word. I dont have the words to convey how much I loathe their behavior in this situation. I'll think of more later. Total clownery.

 

[Fig]

Close- it's not "Hot Pursuit" but "exigent circumstance," legally.

It comes into play when you are preventing imminent harm, i.e, smash a window, throw in a smoke bomb, enter the house and... Oh, look- DRUGS! when you were obviously entering to save the occupants from a fire. Damn kids.

Preventing the destruction of evidence, i.e. twist a girls arm until it pops because it's glued to her phone... which might possibly perhaps contain evidence.

In hot pursuit, as you said, however- a specific suspect in a specific area. This was important in the Tsarnaev/ Boston Bombing attack when they used it as an excuse to bring a reign of terror on a wealthy and educated enclave.

To prevent escape, i.e. a guy more than likely just shot his wife and you shoot him in the back or light up his car because he maybe might be a random spree killer en route to the next target... or maybe you pay some crackie to smash a windshield and then run into a certain house and... Oh, look- DRUGS!

HOT PURSUIT I SAYS!

 

[hlee]

This is going to be hard for some of you to understand, but just trust me. I’m trying to help you all out…

 

[sloporsche]

This is going to be hard for some of you to understand, but just trust me. I’m trying to help you all out…
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scenario # 2 you may have pay out of pocket for a new front door or get a free one from the police department

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

This is going to be hard for some of you to understand, but just trust me. I’m trying to help you all out…
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If people could grasp this painfully simple principal, the number of people shot by police would plummet.

Then the acab crowd here on the hide would die of fucking boredom. What would they do with the literally hours per week wasted on this site condemning the police while they are supposed to be dumping those garbage cans into the back of trucks, or finishing off truckers in the bathroom at the truckstop?

They need cops shooting people so they don't have to face the fact that they themselves are the critic, never the man in the arena. They never were.

 

[NoDopes]

This is going to be hard for some of you to understand, but just trust me. I’m trying to help you all out…
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And never never answer questions. Refer them to your lawyer.

 

[BurtG]

If people could grasp this painfully simple principal, the number of people shot by police would plummet.

Then the acab crowd here on the hide would die of fucking boredom. What would they do with the literally hours per week wasted on this site condemning the police while they are supposed to be dumping those garbage cans into the back of trucks, or finishing off truckers in the bathroom at the truckstop?

They need cops shooting people so they don't have to face the fact that they themselves are the critic, never the man in the arena. They never were.

Watch the whole thing ppg

Pretend one of your conworkers is the one crawling

 

[Ronin22]

Seriously I don’t understand your argument at all , not a personal attack or anything fun aside . It’s not okay she got shot in her yard while doing nothing illegal- but it’s okay she got shot because she did t listen to someone on the other side of a fence yelling at her.
Who she clearly thought was the person everyone was looking for - the dick that fled the traffic stop.

So either folks are free to walk around their yard and own guns - that they can bear - or it’s okay to shoot people whom own a gun in their own yard at random for no reason .

You keep leaving out that part where she shot at them first. You shoot a gun at anyone else who has a gun expect to be fired upon as well.

 

[Tokay444]

You keep leaving out that part where she shot at them first. You shoot a gun at anyone else who has a gun expect to be fired upon as well.

Prove it.

 

[Ronin22]

Prove it.

I saw the video where she shot at them first.

 

[Tokay444]

I saw the video where she shot at them first.

You saw A video, with no indication of the timeline of events. Think that’ll hold up in court for you? The gun didn’t even recoil as if it was hers that went off.

 

[Tokay444]

The video shows what appears to be her lift her arms to point at her 11 o’clock position. There’s no audio, and then there’s a dust cloud at her 2:30 position, and you want me to believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that shot came from her?

 

[Ronin22]

There was a spent casing from her gun. Regardless of that, she pointed the gun at the police. They don't have to wait for someone to shoot it at them. They don't have to play court while it goes down. Then, when you do shoot at them, well FAFO.

 

[Sniperwannabee]

So who is this weezer guy?

 

[Tokay444]

There was a spent casing from her gun. Regardless of that, she pointed the gun at the police.

Prove it!
The cops by their own admission stated the gun wasn’t pointed at them.

 

[Sniperwannabee]

There was a spent casing from her gun. Regardless of that, she pointed the gun at the police. They don't have to wait for someone to shoot it at them. They don't have to play court while it goes down. Then, when you do shoot at them, well FAFO.

They only have to wait if they are in Afghanistan with a democrat as CIC

 

[Ronin22]

You are the second motherfucker today who is running their mouth about “doing our job” or “cleaning up your house”. You know what? We don’t fucking work for any of you. This site isn’t our job. We don’t get paid. We have lives and not at your beck and call. We come in and do what we can and take care of real issues like trying to deal with all the scammers because you motherfuckers are too stupid to stop posting “I’ll take it” or “PM sent” in PX posts as we all have told you not to do as it’s scammer chum.


So how about you just calm the fuck down. We have to look at big picture and in the Bear Pit it’s a pretty free speech area. Don’t like it? Don’t fucking look at the post or go into the post. Simple. There you aren’t offended. You want me to come in the pit and clean it then there will be maybe 10 posts in here because I think this section is the asshole of this site and I’d completely get rid of it if it was up to me. So this guy posts this crap then don’t post or answer if you don’t like it and it will just sit there and wilt on the vine. Come in and argue then this will roll on and on and on. You feed it. Put him on ignore.



And how about you just post something on this site that is worth a shit about shooting? There are plenty of sites to bitch about cops. Seems like you just sit in the bear pit and complain. Another reason why I would dump this section but not my call.

Proves my point that a place is a direct reflection of its leadership. Birds of a feather flock together.

 

[Makinchips208]

Proves my point that a place is a direct reflection of its leadership. Birds of a feather flock together.

Call the mod a ….

 

[Tokay444]

Proves my point that a place is a direct reflection of its leadership. Birds of a feather flock together.

Apply that logic to your few bad apples.

 

[diverdon]

So who is this weezer guy?

Two days ago. Nobody.

 

[JM4590]

You guys suck! Three pages of shit here and I have yet to see anyone throw out the ole “ fucking qualified immunity”…..come on! Somebody go down that road !

 

[nagantguy]

Prove it!
The cops by their own admission stated the gun wasn’t pointed at them.

This right here to all the cunt apologists - they say that she didn’t point at them .
And they’ve never doctored a crime scene with an empty case .

Exactly prove it - every since those cunts closed my business , every since they turned a blind eye to the illegal invaders every since they stood and played with hand sanitizer for 77 minutes; again - no benefit of the doubt on anything ever cause if ya give them any benefit and free pizza suddenly 30,000 mother fukers get arrested for drunk driving while sober .

And the boot lickers yell “ well some people smoke weed !” “My hero’s !”

 

[Rob01]

Proves my point that a place is a direct reflection of its leadership. Birds of a feather flock together.

Take you all day to come up with that? lol All the birds here flock in the bear pit. You called me here. Remember that. Keep running your mouth and you won’t be here much longer.

 

[nagantguy]

You guys suck! Three pages of shit here and I have yet to see anyone throw out the ole “ fucking qualified immunity”…..come on! Somebody go down that road !

I’m also a bit sad no one has asked for anyone’s home address or stated how much they bench press .

But some one did talk about the good cop they knew that would have splattered that ladies brains all over the walls with his magnum revolver. So that was nice

 

[JR_77]

Since we are discussing the cops again it’s a great time to replay one of my all time favorite cops on the hide, detective Mike Jardine.

 

[Fig]

What an asshole.

 

[Tokay444]

Birds of a feather, right? That’s what he said, right? @Ronin22, that’s what you said, right?

 

[Tokay444]

Next you’ll tell me pattern recognition is racist.

 

[clcustom1911]

Birds of a feather, right? That’s what he said, right? @Ronin22, that’s what you said, right?
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Don't be want'n no pogrom things

 

[Bullfrog08]

If people could grasp this painfully simple principal, the number of people shot by police would plummet.

Then the acab crowd here on the hide would die of fucking boredom. What would they do with the literally hours per week wasted on this site condemning the police while they are supposed to be dumping those garbage cans into the back of trucks, or finishing off truckers in the bathroom at the truckstop?

They need cops shooting people so they don't have to face the fact that they themselves are the critic, never the man in the arena. They never were.

Yeah, and then we would all miss out on your "Know it all" personality! Hopefully, more people try to protect themselves/property with a gun and get shot by gov't thugs, so we can bitch, and you can provide your all knowing advice that us bathroom dick sucking morons can't grasp! Do you have a stable of tall horses or just the one you ride on?

 

[kalashnikev]

Yeah, and then we would all miss out on your "Know it all" personality! Hopefully, more people try to protect themselves/property with a gun and get shot by gov't thugs, so we can bitch, and you can provide your all knowing advice that us bathroom dick sucking morons can't grasp! Do you have a stable of tall horses or just the one you ride on?

Maybe we can change the name of the site to "Run and Hide" to make the thugs and their enablers happy?

We could talk all day about how to better comply with the wisdom and authority of the kid who couldn't pass a test in school and wants to put on his Army costume and play with his Facebook in an active shooter scenario, instead of actioning the thread and providing service.

...and they're not even happy if you choose to not-exercise-2A and comply with being herded and directed in life. When the Reign of Terror fell upon LA during the Christopher Dorner manhunt, they shot up a poor old lady in an old truck doing a paper route... 107 times... for no reason.

No Standards and Discipline = No charges.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/01/27/us/christopher-dorner-manhunt-officers-cleared/index.html

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

Yeah, and then we would all miss out on your "Know it all" personality! Hopefully, more people try to protect themselves/property with a gun and get shot by gov't thugs, so we can bitch, and you can provide your all knowing advice that us bathroom dick sucking morons can't grasp! Do you have a stable of tall horses or just the one you ride on?

All of my horses are tall. I'm not sure if you ride the trash truck or jerk off truckers, and maybe you do both, who am I to try to put you in a box? Some of you are fairly industrious. Let me explain in detail where this woman caused her own injury, and then we can move on. I'll use a number system, so you won't get confused.

1. She lives in California
2. She lives in a city surrounded by other idiots, separated only by 6' of privacy fence.
3. She heard about this disturbance and instead of locking her doors and protecting her family in the house, she decided: "fuck it, I saw GI Jane and that was basically a documentary, so I'm going to sweep and clear my backyard".
4. She is engaged by the police, and instead of complying, she starts raising her gun at them, like someone who wants to be on the news.
5. She refuses to drop her gun when they order her to, for several minutes.
6. Then and only then, she chambers a round and shoots at them.


Now, I know you have never been accused of being very bright, and man, today isn't the day that things are going to change for you, but now we are on page 3 of a discussion about how bad cops are because they shot a woman who was shooting at them.


Now splash some water on your face and get back out there, those truckers aren't going to finish themselves. Bitch.

 

[kalashnikev]

All of my horses are tall. I'm not sure if you ride the trash truck or jerk off truckers, and maybe you do both, who am I to try to put you in a box? Some of you are fairly industrious. Let me explain in detail where this woman caused her own injury, and then we can move on. I'll use a number system, so you won't get confused.

1. She lives in California
2. She lives in a city surrounded by other idiots, separated only by 6' of privacy fence.
3. She heard about this disturbance and instead of locking her doors and protecting her family in the house, she decided: "fuck it, I saw GI Jane and that was basically a documentary, so I'm going to sweep and clear my backyard".
4. She is engaged by the police, and instead of complying, she starts raising her gun at them, like someone who wants to be on the news.
5. She refuses to drop her gun when they order her to, for several minutes.
6. Then and only then, she chambers a round and shoots at them.


Now, I know you have never been accused of being very bright, and man, today isn't the day that things are going to change for you, but now we are on page 3 of a discussion about how bad cops are because they shot a woman who was shooting at them.


Now splash some water on your face and get back out there, those truckers aren't going to finish themselves. Bitch.

THIS is the delish-content that keeps me HOOKED...

Did you know that you can get halfway through your "steps" and just because you live in the United States of America, you are 100% safe, and anyone who says otherwise is merely voicing an opinion?

YOU (or anyone) can go clear their backyard right now- inspired by GI Jane, GI Joe, GI Tract, or that 13 Hours movie about the guys who worked with al Qaeda to bring down the Brother Leader and then got surprised when they found out they weren't considered full members.

When you get to 4 and start to speculate, that's where you fall apart though. Why would the police be pointing guns at a Mom protecting her family, while a (presumably dangerous) Criminal is on the loose? Seems implausible.

If they were real Police, they would have said, "Which way did he go?!" and continued performing their jobs.

There's really no way to create these "situations" out of thin air and pure misconduct, and then pick apart what actions on the part of the victim are considered "appropriate," all while completely denying any responsibility for the actions of an "armed professional law enforcement officer."

It's perfectly absurd.

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

THIS is the delish-content that keeps me HOOKED...

Did you know that you can get halfway through your "steps" and just because you live in the United States of America, you are 100% safe, and anyone who says otherwise is merely voicing an opinion?

YOU (or anyone) can go clear their backyard right now- inspired by GI Jane, GI Joe, GI Tract, or that 13 Hours movie about the guys who worked with al Qaeda to bring down the Brother Leader.

When you get to 4 and start to speculate, that's where you fall apart though. Why would the police be pointing guns at a Mom protecting her family, while a (presumably dangerous) Criminal is on the loose? Seems implausible.

If they were real Police, they would have said, "Which way did he go!" and continued performing their jobs.

There's really no way to create these "situations" out of thin air and pure misconduct, and then pick apart what actions on the part of the victim are considered "appropriate," all while completely denying any responsibility for the actions of an "armed professional law enforcement officer."

It's perfectly absurd.

You missed the entire point. You guys always do.

I have not ever justified the police activity here. I'm talking about not doing dumb shit that gets you shot.

Next time you hit an intersection and have the right of way, pull out in front of that 18 wheeler and show him that you have the right of way. You fucking tell them while they are fitting up your prosthetic everything that you had the right to pull out in front of that truck.

 

[Tokay444]

I don't know if this has been asked yet. Did they get the guy?

 

[kalashnikev]

You missed the entire point. You guys always do.

I have not ever justified the police activity here. I'm talking about not doing dumb shit that gets you shot.

Next time you hit an intersection and have the right of way, pull out in front of that 18 wheeler and show him that you have the right of way. You fucking tell them while they are fitting up your prosthetic everything that you had the right to pull out in front of that truck.

Somehow in your head that's probably a really good analogy, but it makes no sense.

UNLESS- you are trying to imply that to resist misconduct on the part of an "armed professional law enforcement officer" it is the same as trying to reverse the momentum of a heavily-cargo-laded 18 wheeler at short distance, in an intersection.

...and if the impulse to do misconduct is really that powerful, such that it is nearly unstoppable, how about we enforce equally powerful consequences?

 

[kalashnikev]

I don't know if this has been asked yet. Did they get the guy?

Yes, he was floating in a backyard pool in his undies, trying to pass himself off as the adjacent homeowner taking a dip.

He even watered the flowers with the hose as part of the routine.

Smart criminal!

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

Somehow in your head that's probably a really good analogy, but it makes no sense.

UNLESS- you are trying to imply that to resist misconduct on the part of an "armed professional law enforcement officer" it is the same as trying to reverse the momentum of a heavily-cargo-laded 18 wheeler at short distance, in an intersection.

...and if the impulse to do misconduct is really that powerful, such that it is nearly unstoppable, how about we enforce equally powerful consequences?

Whoa, which part is misconduct? That's a legal term, so use it correctly. To say they are morons is one thing, but misconduct is clearly defined.

You...um... wouldn't be talking out of your ass here right?

Cops absolutely had the right to disarm her in that scenario, and I doubt we will ever ask them to let people shoot at them without returning fire, so... where is the misconduct? There's a clear lack of wisdom on display, but I doubt seriously anything anything they did there was illegal.

 

[Ric O'shay]

This discussion is not balck and White. I have had the unpleasant experiance of pointing a firearm through my patio door at a local cop who was banging the fuck out of my back door, freaking the shit out of my sleeping wife sleeping feet away.
He was looking for a burglar who was breaking into homes in my neighborhood. No idea why he banged on my back door?
If my wife screams someone is breaking in, and I know we have a burglar working the area I am gonna come armed.
We saw each other, and he booked to the well lit front door to explain.
What if I had a over zelious trigger finger, what if he lit me up even though I was inside my house?
Shit like this happens fast.
I get the difference in the Weezer lady's not great move to go outside, but these things can happen.

 

[nagantguy]

So they did get the original criminal? I’d not heard that .
Was he really DOJ g the Chec and Ching pool trick?

 

[babyguppy]

Men zip-tied by suspects wearing NYPD gear in bodega robbery​

https://www.newsnationnow.com/crime/bodega-robbery-zip-tied-suspects-nypd-clothing/

what...... criminals pretending to be cops.... isn't that illegal.. wait..

 

[BurtG]

I don't know if this has been asked yet. Did they get the guy?

Most likely not. Kind of like when they demolished a third party’s house trying to get a shoplifter. Who apparently wasn’t in there.
Cops/ gov won’t pay for house. Neither would insurance

Police blew up an innocent man’s house in search of an armed shoplifter. Too bad, court rules.

When they were finished, it looked as though the police had blasted rockets through the house.

www.oregonlive.com

 

[kalashnikev]

Whoa, which part is misconduct?

When they stopped doing their jobs to try and provoke a scenario that would get them a sport kill on their record.

You can hear them conspiring to work-it-out on their own recording.

Also- what does their Department SOP say about drawing? What does it say about pointing?

It would be pretty crazy if they're allowed to have three dots lined up on the forehead of the person they're trying to protect without any reason for doing so.

Then again, crazy SOPs written by inexperienced people are out there, everywhere.

A nearby-to-me jurisdiction actually bought Nighthawk 1911s and ND'd into a homeowner a few years back. The "investigation" revealed that by SOP, they were supposed to remove all safeties when talking to a suspect... and didn't say anything about positions, or where your finger was supposed to be.

The officer got off because nobody trained him not to have his finger on the trigger of a condition zero 1911 pointed at a person he is talking to. The officer lied and claimed he was "bumped by a car door," although he was nowhere near the car. He got off on an OOPS! and sentenced to no-work, full-pay, and more range time. The family got $2M for the Victim's life.

IN THIS CASE- It only makes sense when you play the tape what they were even doing with the Victim- they weren't trying to do their jobs- which is to protect the Community- they were involved in an attack on the Community.

They thought that they would collect a free kill off an American. Lots of guys close-to-you are driving around with the same objective... both Cops and Criminals.

TL;DR - Don't be a Fool, Tote the Tool.

 

[BurtG]

He got off on an OOPS! and sentenced to no-work, full-pay, and more range time.

I hope no one takes matters in to their own hands and doles out what they think is a more appropriate punishment.

That wojld be awful

 

[sloporsche]

some one here got an awful lot of traffic tickets and drug possession charges in their past

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

When they stopped doing their jobs to try and provoke a scenario that would get them a sport kill on their record.

You can hear them conspiring to work-it-out on their own recording.

Also- what does their Department SOP say about drawing? What does it say about pointing?

It would be pretty crazy if they're allowed to have three dots lined up on the forehead of the person they're trying to protect without any reason for doing so.

Then again, crazy SOPs written by inexperienced people are out there, everywhere.

A nearby-to-me jurisdiction actually bought Nighthawk 1911s and ND'd into a homeowner a few years back. The "investigation" revealed that by SOP, they were supposed to remove all safeties when talking to a suspect... and didn't say anything about positions, or where your finger was supposed to be.

The officer got off because nobody trained him not to have his finger on the trigger of a condition zero 1911 pointed at a person he is talking to. The officer lied and claimed he was "bumped by a car door," although he was nowhere near the car. He got off on an OOPS! and sentenced to no-work, full-pay, and more range time. The family got $2M for the Victim's life.

IN THIS CASE- It only makes sense when you play the tape what they were even doing with the Victim- they weren't trying to do their jobs- which is to protect the Community- they were involved in an attack on the Community.

They thought that they would collect a free kill off an American. Lots of guys close-to-you are driving around with the same objective... both Cops and Criminals.

TL;DR - Don't be a Fool, Tote the Tool.

You make way too many assumptions about the mentalities of individual people, but you're allowed to do that, and there's no way to know if you're correct or not. As far as what's happening close to me, you don't know what you're talking about. I live 10 miles from a town of 7k people. I can see one house from my house. I know all but one or two of the local cops, city, county and the troopers assigned to my county. These boys aren't looking for someone to shoot. Your cops are a reflection of the population they work in. If your people are shit, your cops will be too. They are just a smattering of the folks who live in the community.