The #4 is a #4. Doesn't matter if it's a steel barrel or the cfw barrel. The outside dimensions are the same.
Later, Frank
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The #4 is a #4. Doesn't matter if it's a steel barrel or the cfw barrel. The outside dimensions are the same.
Later, Frank
Which heavy sporter are you talking about?
The smallest we are offering in the cfw is our #4 contour. That has a .750" muzzle diameter contour wise.
Later, Frank
Well, I couldn’t resist. I ordered one - supposedly the blank was in stock, ought to have it soon-ish. I’m weeeeeeeeak. I’m also a goober that likes the colors. I think I mistakenly ordered the Varmint contour versus the #4...but, I’m pretty sure that’ll buff. Having the option of so many contours (comparatively) is pretty nice. I was gonna get a steel 3B, slept on it one night, and decided I‘d get CF instead.
If they said we had it then we did and whomever you talked to should've pulled it right away.
The #13 Rem. Varmint vs the #4 are different contour wise. Weight isn't that big of a difference.
Thanks for buying one!
Later, Frank
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Check. I was doing my best to order off the Facebook photos y'all put up. I saw the #13 in the photo, thought "looks like the thinnest," cross referenced to the post that said "Varmint," threw common sense out the window (and ignored #4) and ordered it up that way. I saw "red" was really subtle, looks nice. All said, I'm not gonna sweat 1/10 at the muzzle - the stock it's destined for should handle up to a Varmint contour with no issues.
I'm excited to upgrade a light sporter tube to something that doesn't require me to bring a book with me to the range.
Frank,
I think what XTREM HTR16 and I are wondering is on the blanks that are supposed to "finish @24", could they possible be finished a little shorter? I have my #4 contour being delivered today. I'll be building a 7MM-08 with it, and had wondering how much could be cut off on the muzzle and on the breech also. Like you mention there is 2.75" of steel on the breech end, could that be cut to say 1" of breech? Which might make the overall finish length closer to maybe 23"?? I've usually gone with shorter breech/shank to save a bit of weight on a barrel.
Sorry for all the questions - excited to get my new barrel today!!
Attached is a weight sheet. We used 6.5mm for the standard. So a smaller bore and or a larger bore for caliber will change it a little up or down.
OK now I'm understanding the question. On a short action caliber like a 7-08. Taking a little off the breech end shouldn't hurt anything. Just haven't done it/tried it ourselves at this point in time to give you a honest answer.
We make a blank that is 23" and will finish at 22" as well.
Later, Frank
Thanks Frank -that is what I was needing to know. Appreciate your help on all these questions!
I picked up my Bartlein Wrapped Carbon Fiber Barrel, after being chambered and threaded.
I grabbed a Proof Barrel AI Pre-Fit that matched my barrel pretty darn close and compared the weight
They were much closer when compared this way, pre-chambering the Bartlein was about 1LBS heavier, post chambering it was much closer.
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Bartlein Barrel
Next is to spin it on and accuracy test
I grabbed a Proof Barrel AI Pre-Fit that matched my barrel pretty darn close and compared the weight
They were much closer when compared this way, pre-chambering the Bartlein was about 1LBS heavier, post chambering it was much closer.
Proof Barrel
Bartlein Barrel
Next is to spin it on and accuracy test
No,
My only Proof barrels are completely different, and to be honest the POI Change is Bullshit. I tested the Proof by smoking the hell out of it, like 60 rounds as fast as I can change mags on two different rifles and there is no POI Change, it's Mirage in the scope.
I had one barrel in an MCM A5 and the other with a Handguard covering it, you can see the Mirage boiling up from the barrel. if you shoot long strings over a Heat Sink and have your scope right there with no Mirage Band, it's gonna be all over the place because the Mirage comes off the entire barrel. Like a Suppressor
If a suppressor needs a wrap, a carbon fiber barrel does too after long strings of fire, especailly with a high magnification scope over the top.
Funny if you look at an F Class shooter with a steel barrel, they use Mirage Bands, why not carbon fiber if you are gonna shot strings that long? Google F Class Rifle and see all the mirage bands on steel barrels.
My only Proof barrels are completely different, and to be honest the POI Change is Bullshit. I tested the Proof by smoking the hell out of it, like 60 rounds as fast as I can change mags on two different rifles and there is no POI Change, it's Mirage in the scope.
I had one barrel in an MCM A5 and the other with a Handguard covering it, you can see the Mirage boiling up from the barrel. if you shoot long strings over a Heat Sink and have your scope right there with no Mirage Band, it's gonna be all over the place because the Mirage comes off the entire barrel. Like a Suppressor
If a suppressor needs a wrap, a carbon fiber barrel does too after long strings of fire, especailly with a high magnification scope over the top.
Funny if you look at an F Class shooter with a steel barrel, they use Mirage Bands, why not carbon fiber if you are gonna shot strings that long? Google F Class Rifle and see all the mirage bands on steel barrels.
Yeah I hear you. I know Proof carbon barrels are proven and great performers. I'm sure the Bartleins will be too. I can't wait to read your review. Thanks
Just delivered - isn't it beautiful
Can they be turned to 1.13 at the breech to fit a Tikka? Looks like the 13 should but the 4 and 14 look like maybe not.
What Frank said!
Back in February Jeff and I went to the range to test a 6.5cm barrels. It was 17 degrees out. After about 7-10 rounds thru it and zeroing the scope (7-32x NF) I went to my first target and tried to shoot a 5 shot group. The mirage/heat coming off the barrel was so bad looking thru the scope that I was using the whole 1" paster at a 100 yards. I had to let the gun cool and then slow down my rate of fire and only shoot 3 shot groups.
Next time to the range and it was 47 degrees out but regardless of the temperature out side I put my mirage shield on the rifle (I have several for my F class guns). That stopped the mirage from messing with the sight picture. In the attached picture the mirage shield isn't on the barrel but you can see the velcro dots on the top of the barrel.
Wade Stuteville and George at GAP has done plenty of shooting and accuracy and getting the barrels hot and not a single accuracy complaint. Wades exact words to me where something close to "Every bit as good as our all steel barrels are!"
Funny but my mirage shields (my new ones) are carbon fiber also. Here is a link to a guy that makes them.
[email protected]
Later, Frank
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Just email him. His name is Mark Nagel. This was the last phone number I had. 715-551-9735.
Later, Frank
I'll say yes we can but until we kind of get a handle on the ones we are offering now....it would be a one off order. Email me more specifics of what you want and can help you better that way.
Send it to....
[email protected]
Later, Frank
I had a great day out with the CF Bartlein, shot the Prime 6CM and Hornady to test,
Results with the Prime were really impressive, great speeds, superb accuracy.
Speeds with 115gr RDF Prime Load
600 yard plates,
The barrels kick much ass
This little guy decided to camp out under my rifle during some shots, I looked up and saw a snake on my databook at first I thought Rattle Snake but it wasn't poisonous so I let him hang with me
Results with the Prime were really impressive, great speeds, superb accuracy.
Speeds with 115gr RDF Prime Load
600 yard plates,
The barrels kick much ass
This little guy decided to camp out under my rifle during some shots, I looked up and saw a snake on my databook at first I thought Rattle Snake but it wasn't poisonous so I let him hang with me
I actually i have no clue
I handed it to MHSA told Adam to spin it up for my AI and walked away
I have no idea what the twist even is without asking Frank.
I am much more lackadayical than many might imagine for me it either works or not, I normally don't ask for much and let the Smith give the best universal reamer they have so I can run just about anything. I sorta hate barrels cut for a specific bullet.
I honestly don't know, I think it is 24" I know it's 6CM, it's for my AX, and it likes Prime Ammo, beyond that, I don't know much about it,
Though I do have a video shot I need to edit, just busy with podcast interviews today
I handed it to MHSA told Adam to spin it up for my AI and walked away
I have no idea what the twist even is without asking Frank.
I am much more lackadayical than many might imagine for me it either works or not, I normally don't ask for much and let the Smith give the best universal reamer they have so I can run just about anything. I sorta hate barrels cut for a specific bullet.
I honestly don't know, I think it is 24" I know it's 6CM, it's for my AX, and it likes Prime Ammo, beyond that, I don't know much about it,
Though I do have a video shot I need to edit, just busy with podcast interviews today
I’ll double check tomorrow.
It was one of two left over CF barrel from the first batch we made for testing for this go around of making these things. (3rd time testing CF barrels). When Frank and I talked about the CF barrels it was the only thing I could get to him quick that I could lay my hands on.
It’s a right hand twist, and believe it was a 1-7.5 twist and 5R rifling. It was a 27” blank M40 contour.
I’ll look up Lowlights order tomorrow and post an update.
Before anyone gets any ideas in saying we cherry picked one for Lowlight or for magazine articles etc...we don’t do that kind of stuff. What LL got was the same we would make for anyone else or for anyone here in the shop etc...
Later, Frank
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P.S. Nice shooting LL!
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Looks like a Bull Snake, used to catch those guys when hiking around Boulder, love those snakes. Were you having mirage issues with the rate of fire you were shooting?
I updated the post...only difference was it was a 27" blank to finish at 26".
The color on LL cf was Red/Brown in color as well instead of the standard black.
Later, Frank
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That's enough fps and a big enough pill to make me a 6 CM believer.... not that I wasn't...I've just really resisted getting a 6 of some kind while I've got a perfectly good 6.5 CM barrel with plenty of life.
So you guys wanted some load info and build verification on the CFWs...
I talk to this guy about once a week about various stuff, good builder, good shooter. Said the other ones he had (COUGH) wouldn't shoot or had no consistency..
Check this out:
gramho.com
gramho.com
Great work at Misery Custom Rifles in Bozeman, MT.
Later,
Brady @ Bartlein
I talk to this guy about once a week about various stuff, good builder, good shooter. Said the other ones he had (COUGH) wouldn't shoot or had no consistency..
Check this out:
@miserycustomrifles Instagram post (carousel) I am completely sold on these new @bartleinbarrelsinc carbon wrapped barrels. They are every bit as precise and consistent as their steel barrels. I would expect nothing less from them. This is the .300 WSM I posted up the other day. I let it cool and cleaned it up. Still no load development done, just threw some handloads I had laying around through it. #longrangeshooting #longrangerifles #longrangehunting #customrifle #customrifles #bartleinbarrels @nightforce_optics @zermatt_arms @mannersstocks - Gramho.com
Instagram post added by miserycustomrifles I am completely sold on these new @bartleinbarrelsinc carbon wrapped barrels. They are every bit as precise and consistent as their steel barrels. I would expect nothing less from them. This is the .300 WSM I posted up the other day. I let it cool and...
@miserycustomrifles Instagram post (carousel) Carbon fiber perfected!!!!! This is a brand new @bartleinbarrelsinc 22” carbon wrapped barrel chambered in .300 WSM. There was zero barrel break in or load development. All 16 of these shots were fired in a row without a cool down. I wanted to see if heat would affect impacts. By the time I shot the last group the mirage was so bad off the suppressor I’m kinda surprised it was still approaching 1/2 moa. I’ll get this thing cleaned up and let it cool down and I’ll report back with more groups. I am very happy with the consistency of these new bartlein carbon wrapped barrels. The rest of the rifle included a @mannersstocks MCS-T stock, @timney_triggers Calvin elite, @zermatt_arms origin action, @americanprecisionarms bottom metal and gen 2 little bastard brake, @seekinsprecision_official rings, and a @nightforce_optics nx8 2.6-20x50 scope. #customrifle #customrifles #longrangeshooting #longrangehunting #longrangeonly - Gramho.com
Instagram post added by miserycustomrifles Carbon fiber perfected!!!!! This is a brand new @bartleinbarrelsinc 22” carbon wrapped barrel chambered in .300 WSM. There was zero barrel break in or load development. All 16 of these shots were fired in a row without a cool down. I wanted to see if...
Great work at Misery Custom Rifles in Bozeman, MT.
Later,
Brady @ Bartlein
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Brady what up! You sold me mine. It was the 8.5-7.5 GT in 6mm creedmoor. It came in a week or 2 ago and the smith is spinning it up now. Can't wait.So you guys wanted some load info and build verification on the CFWs...
I talk to this guy about once a week about various stuff, good builder, good shooter. Said the other ones he had (COUGH) wouldn't shoot or had no consistency..
Check this out:
@miserycustomrifles Instagram post (carousel) I am completely sold on these new @bartleinbarrelsinc carbon wrapped barrels. They are every bit as precise and consistent as their steel barrels. I would expect nothing less from them. This is the .300 WSM I posted up the other day. I let it cool and cleaned it up. Still no load development done, just threw some handloads I had laying around through it. #longrangeshooting #longrangerifles #longrangehunting #customrifle #customrifles #bartleinbarrels @nightforce_optics @zermatt_arms @mannersstocks - Gramho.com
Instagram post added by miserycustomrifles I am completely sold on these new @bartleinbarrelsinc carbon wrapped barrels. They are every bit as precise and consistent as their steel barrels. I would expect nothing less from them. This is the .300 WSM I posted up the other day. I let it cool and...
@miserycustomrifles Instagram post (carousel) Carbon fiber perfected!!!!! This is a brand new @bartleinbarrelsinc 22” carbon wrapped barrel chambered in .300 WSM. There was zero barrel break in or load development. All 16 of these shots were fired in a row without a cool down. I wanted to see if heat would affect impacts. By the time I shot the last group the mirage was so bad off the suppressor I’m kinda surprised it was still approaching 1/2 moa. I’ll get this thing cleaned up and let it cool down and I’ll report back with more groups. I am very happy with the consistency of these new bartlein carbon wrapped barrels. The rest of the rifle included a @mannersstocks MCS-T stock, @timney_triggers Calvin elite, @zermatt_arms origin action, @americanprecisionarms bottom metal and gen 2 little bastard brake, @seekinsprecision_official rings, and a @nightforce_optics nx8 2.6-20x50 scope. #customrifle #customrifles #longrangeshooting #longrangehunting #longrangeonly - Gramho.com
Instagram post added by miserycustomrifles Carbon fiber perfected!!!!! This is a brand new @bartleinbarrelsinc 22” carbon wrapped barrel chambered in .300 WSM. There was zero barrel break in or load development. All 16 of these shots were fired in a row without a cool down. I wanted to see if...
Great work at Misery Custom Rifles in Bozeman, MT.
Later,
Brady @ Bartlein
Will def be reporting back once up and going.
Tanner in Vegas
Tanner - Great to hear that it all worked out and you'll have it soon. Please do, we definitely want range reports, these things are coming in hot!!!
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Best of Luck!
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This is perfect timing. I'm building a new rifle and was going to go Proof Research. However, I just ordered a 24" CF Bartlein .264 8t varmint from Southern Precision.....the last one they had in that configuration. The barrel it's replacing is a SS Bartlein in 6 Creedmoor. Can't wait to get it.
Got my barrel yesterday, and will drop everything off at the smith on Friday.
Nice write up and we didn't know he was going to do it and didn't pay him anything to do it.
Looks good. What barrel channel inlet was done on the stock? I have an EH1 stock coming from Manners which is inletted for a Proof Sendero profile and am wondering if the Bartlein will fit without any modification.
The stock was one that Manners had ready to ship and was inlet for a #6 Gap contour, which is basically a varmint with and extra inch or so of tennon. I imagine you'll be ok.
you mean I can have my barrel wrapped like this car oh happy days lol
not even if i was 12 again .
not even if i was 12 again .
Just ordered a #13 CFW in green carbon fiber, finished length will be 24" with LH GT in 1:9 - 1:8.25 to shoot 175 ELD-X, 180 Hybrids and try 184 Hybrids out of my short action. My first time with left hand twist and gain twist, this will be going on my long range hunter so I'm curious and hopeful that it will shoot well.
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