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Why so you can say you have one? You can produce a whole lot of ammo and still have a rifle that shoots just as good for that kind of money...it ejects its the other way around, and the same every time, sweet now I just need 1400...
Hmmm? Ejects just like my factory remy...
Why so you can say you have one? You can produce a whole lot of ammo and still have a rifle that shoots just as good for that kind of money...
Have there been problems with the ejection on some of the BAT Tacticals that inspired this thread?
makes my Deviant look like shit,,,
wouldnt eject loaded rounds, had to 'modify' the action with a dremel
wouldnt eject loaded rounds, had to 'modify' the action with a dremel
there's a relief cut in the rear of a stock 700 action right behind the ejection port.
this allows the a loaded round (loaded long, 2.930) to kick out at the end of the ejection phase.
Defiance does not relieve this area, they advised me on the mod,,,this only applys to a standard length port.
not the 'Defiance" length port
I agree there are a lot of great action makers out there. I am confused as to why none of them, aside from the direct Winchester copies, don't use an ejector system like the model 70 Winchesters. I have seen 70s or FN SPRs come through the shop that I can cycle rounds lightly and it makes a nice pile on the bench or run the bolt with authority and it sends rounds bouncing off the wall on the other side of a 20ft room. Seems like this wound be a great asset when retaining brass at the range (easy cycling) while still getting 100% positive ejection at matches/hunting situations that are time sensitive.
No doubt this would take some redesign and increase cost but seems to me that the price of customs actions are on the rise anyway (both manufacturing and customer acceptance).
Seems to me a round action with Remington screw spacing and Remington trigger options that has the ability to feed AICS or AW mags coupled with maybe an integral lug and base with the aforementioned Winchester style ejection system would be about as good as it can get without getting into the three lug option and titanium or sleeved aluminum options to save weight.
Just food for thought.
Ern
Basically you're asking for a Round Bottom M70/FN-SPR action, that would be compatible with the crapload of M700 clone aftermarket. The M70/FN-SPR is my favorite action; while there is sufficient aftermarket support for it, having one compatible with the M700 footprint would make things simpler.
Papa or JR WALLSIII, I know y'all have used alot of different actions so I'm curious to know, is there a geometry difference to the BAT or anything they do different to make their actions smoother then others or do you think thats mainly do to the Melonite?
I have a BAT Tactical and a Surgeon 591R, I'll take some measurements tomorrow on those two for you. Maybe someone with a Deviant can compare as well.
I've never owned a Defiance but hear from numerous people they feel tighter and lock up better then the 591's. I use to have a 591. The bolt in it was a little losser then I would like. My Alpha 11/Deviant is being melonited this week so maybe I can give some input in the next couple of weeks but I really hope the Melonited Deviant will be super slick. I was curious if the BAT was smoother then most actions due mainly in part to the Melonite or if they really just know how to machine that much better then alot fo the other companies.
BTW I love the new SAC Sentinel, almost as much as your BAT. Did you ever sell that Multicam 300WM?
Papa or JR WALLSIII, I know y'all have used alot of different actions so I'm curious to know, is there a geometry difference to the BAT or anything they do different to make their actions smoother then others or do you think thats mainly do to the Melonite?
I agree there are a lot of great action makers out there. I am confused as to why none of them, aside from the direct Winchester copies, don't use an ejector system like the model 70 Winchesters. I have seen 70s or FN SPRs come through the shop that I can cycle rounds lightly and it makes a nice pile on the bench or run the bolt with authority and it sends rounds bouncing off the wall on the other side of a 20ft room. Seems like this wound be a great asset when retaining brass at the range (easy cycling) while still getting 100% positive ejection at matches/hunting situations that are time sensitive.
No doubt this would take some redesign and increase cost but seems to me that the price of customs actions are on the rise anyway (both manufacturing and customer acceptance).
Seems to me a round action with Remington screw spacing and Remington trigger options that has the ability to feed AICS or AW mags coupled with maybe an integral lug and base with the aforementioned Winchester style ejection system would be about as good as it can get without getting into the three lug option and titanium or sleeved aluminum options to save weight.
Just food for thought.
Ern
I'm just kidding, but If I build a high end build I'd prob use a defiance, but right now I got a rem 700 in 260 with hs stock, ptg bottom metal 28in bbl 1:8 twist. It works great for me. I also just found 3 bags of 50 rem brass (260)and bought it in an instant since I was just about to order some. Oh and thats just my long range rig I got lots of hunting rifles but nothing custom.
Papa - a friend I shoot with had his rifle built on that same action, the BAT Tactical. Holy hell, was I shocked at smooth that manipulation was! To be honest, it made my 591 feel like a Savage (sorry Savage guys, not bagging too bad, I love them too). I think the best description was something along the lines of, "the bolt rides like it's on ball bearings, lubed with baby snot." I didn't realize it dropped your brass right next to you. That is sick.