Bell&Carlson Fit-Up with Karsten Style Cheekpiece

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Did anyone here come across a similar problem?

I bought a Bell & Carlson Medalist stock for my rifle, thinking the buttstock was "flat" on both sides. Photos only show right side of stock. I even asked the seller(Midway),and also checked with B&C if this was true. They both confirmed there was no "cheekpiece" on the left side of this straight-comb buttstock. Well...I received the stock, and it *does* have a cheekpiece.

Let me ask the group here if the Karsten-style(saddle-style) cheek-riser can work with a stock that has a cheekpiece on the left side. To be clear, the stock (as viewed from the right side) shows only a flat comb, no "Monte Carlo" etc.

See here, ...and you will see what I mean ( click " our products " from the leftside column, then scroll down to see pic "Medalist straight comb style"---> http://www.bellandcarlson.com/

 

[IPSC]

Re: Bell&Carlson Fit-Up with Karsten Style Cheekpiece

Spoke to Karsten... he says its been done and is only a cosmetic flaw in that the left side bolt heads don't make full ( under-head) contact.... but still hold tight on the slanted surface of the left cheek-piece.....

Does anyone have personal or direct experience with this?

 

[hdbiker1]

Re: Bell&Carlson Fit-Up with Karsten Style Cheekpiece

I looked at your link and the straight comb stock does show the monte carlo cheek. Personally, I would send it back and get something different say like the M40 or std varmint stock. That's why I dislike ordering something without knowing for sure exactly what it is. Btw, I do have an M40 with a Karsten installed. I think the M40 has a slightly higher comb and you might find a Karsten not needed, but I do since I have high cheek bones (PC for a short face).

 

[IPSC]

Re: Bell&Carlson Fit-Up with Karsten Style Cheekpiece

No... the stock does *not* have a Monte-Carlo style stock ( sloping high comb like Weatherby stock). It is, however, a *straight comb* stock with a "left-side" cheek-piece bump-out. I don't think this is what most view as being "Monte-Carlo", like a typical weatherby stock.

See the picture of the right side (bolt handle side)here, of the model 6560-02, Tactical/Varmint stock I am talking about--->

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/587098?cm_vc=S014

To get an idea what this stock looks like from the other side, follow this click path--> "<span style="font-weight: bold">our products </span>" from the leftside column, then scroll down to see pic <span style="font-weight: bold">"Medalist straight comb style"</span>, from here---> http://www.bellandcarlson.com/ ). Scrolling down further look to find "Weatherby style" as a comparison... I would call *this* a Monte-Carlo, as the comb slants down/forward and is not straight. This is not what I have.

The real question is--> has anyone mounted a Karsten, saddle "style" riser on a straight-comb stock that has a left bump-out cheekpiece with straight comb?

 

[IPSC]

Re: Bell&Carlson Fit-Up with Karsten Style Cheekpiece

Well...I went ahead and just did it. I used a cast-off piece (original butt-stock from a Saiga after doing an AK conversion), cut up and modified the Saiga stock into an upside-down "U"shaped, cheek riser. Used black-painted carriage bolts and carefully bent the heads to match the slope of the left side cheek-piece. Then added "wingwalk" from a Aircraft supply store ( kinda synthetic rubbery walking surface that wont' kill your face like the sandpaper style skateboard tape)..and voila !

Some pics--->

 

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Re: Bell&Carlson Fit-Up with Karsten Style Cheekpiece

One more....this shows that that Saiga donor piece has the necessary taper ( back to front, narrower at front) that makes this piece work for a stock with a left-side cheekpiece. It also shows the slight bolt-head bending that had to be done to fit properly-->

 

[58blackflag]

Re: Bell&Carlson Fit-Up with Karsten Style Cheekpiece

Man that is crafty! Nice job!

 

[IPSC]

Re: Bell&Carlson Fit-Up with Karsten Style Cheekpiece

Thanks so much blackflag....the real scare was doing this for a non-standard application, the stock with a cheekpiece on the left side. The reason I posted here was maybe someone else may have found this same problem.

Actually, it was pretty easy as long as you thought it through, and went slowly. Certainly it was a bear measuring ( 3x at least !!) before you cut or drilled holes. But, gotta tell you, it brings your eye right to the center of the scope. And that's the whole idea. Thanks again...