Re: Beretta M9 - Why the hate?
You most often hear crap about M9s because of military guys talking down about them. Most of the M9s in service are the originals purchased in the late 80s. And contrary to popular belief, soldiers do not take care of their weapons. Mostly because, well, it's not theirs, they're not out any money if it breaks. Think of how you drive a rental car... Combine beating them to hell with the fact that the military wanted a beretta, but wanted it at X price instead of the comercial version Y price, and somethings gotta give...
Of course, it always comes down to personal preference. You can NOT argue with the berreta's reliability (NOT the 30k round count military issued/non-maintained ones, but properly maintained pistols)...it tied with the Sig P226 which are known for their "to hell and back reliability". You never hear someone talkin sit about a 226? Again, personal preferance, just as some people prefer 1911s over glocks or vice versa...I prefer a DA/SA over a striker fire. One isn't better or worse...just different. A DA/SA is not that hard to get used to, but everyone is different. Some guys can't shoot .45/.40/.357s, or glocks, or whatever. Some can't shoot DAs, some can.
I compare it to how all glocks with their unsupported chambers are crap because they blow up... I mean, it must be true, some guy said so on the internet! haha How many times has that happened out of millions of glocks out there, and suddenly everyone is saying that crap about a proven platform, even people who've never held a glock. Most of the guys I've ever heard talk bad about the M9 have never even held one, let alone shot one, they just repeat what they heard from their buddy...who heard it from someone else...and so on.
Sgt. 0811, your post was an eye-opener. That's surprising you've had such crappy luck with them. I really don't know what to say to that.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: InArdusFidelis</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> DO NOT trust the safety. I know safeties are a non issue for most folks, but to those of you who like the added safety lever on top of having your pistol decocked, you might want to look elsewhere for a more reliable safety system. I practiced disassembling and reassembling some beat down M9's I got from the armory that had tens of thousands of rounds through them, and every time I snapped the slide forward the safety would come off. That bothered me, because I didn't like the idea of having a gun that you think is on safe when it really isn't. So, overall I don't think it's a bad gun, but it does have it's drawbacks and honestly I'm just grumpy we chose the M9 over the Sig p226 which in my opinion is a much better weapon. Just my .02 though. </div></div>
About the safety coming off...it's a DA with a firing pin block...who cares! Again, the P226 (which you so highly love) doesn't have a manual safety...yet you didn't say bad things about that pistol...? I personally love the 92 "G" models where it was only a decocker (like sigs) and returned to "fire" on its own by design. I even modified mine to do this, and think all 92's should be like that.
I love me some Berettas! I mean, it's Italian! I like their women, their cars, and their firearms! I'm a .357 sig fan, but seeing as how I'm not invading Normandy or fighting off the soviets ("Wolverines!!"), but simply shooting paper or steel targets, I elect for cheaper ammo over "stopping power" (I'm honestly surprised at the lack of "it aint .45 so it aint shit" type comments) I'm short on facts, you say? You're right, because for every fact for one side of the discussion, there's a fact for the other. As with everything firearms (and cars, and women, and life choices) it all comes down to personal preference. I like skinny women, Shankster likes the hefties. Both of us can give arguments to both, but neither of us is right or wrong.
My name is Pdogsbeware, and I'm addicted to Berettas. But no, I don't need help.
