Bernie Sanders demands national minimum wage be $15 an hour but, doesn't want to pay his own people that.......LOL

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    Ha Ha I guess when it's not your money on the line you're willing to pay a lot more.........this socialist POS can't even practice what he preaches, but then they never do.......LOL


    Those materials showed that salaried campaign staff complained that because of the extensive hours they worked, they made less than the equivalent of $15 per hour — the rate Sanders has demanded the nation adopt as a minimum wage.
     
    Fake news. My neice is a worker for Sanders in Iowa and gets 100% employer funded health insurance, paid leave/Time off and an equivalent pay of $17 an hour. She makes about $37K a year.

    Not a big fan of Sanders but this B.S. is just more Oligarchy Controlled Media Fake News designed to groom the political field for 2020.

    As always, we are being played, groomed, lied to, and manipulated by The Media.

    VooDoo
     
    So your family is invilved in democrat party politics. Not suprised.

    Its not fake news. His campaign manager admits it on video with sound.

    Fake news. My neice is a worker for Sanders in Iowa and gets 100% employer funded health insurance, paid leave/Time off and an equivalent pay of $17 an hour. She makes about $37K a year.

    Not a big fan of Sanders but this B.S. is just more Oligarchy Controlled Media Fake News designed to groom the political field for 2020.

    As always, we are being played, groomed, lied to, and manipulated by The Media.

    VooDoo
     
    Fake news. My neice is a worker for Sanders in Iowa and gets 100% employer funded health insurance, paid leave/Time off and an equivalent pay of $17 an hour. She makes about $37K a year.

    Not a big fan of Sanders but this B.S. is just more Oligarchy Controlled Media Fake News designed to groom the political field for 2020.

    As always, we are being played, groomed, lied to, and manipulated by The Media.

    VooDoo



    so you think that just because your niece makes 17hr everyone makes 17 hr?
     
    Fucking carpetbagger who figured out at a early age to live off the backs of hardworking taxpayers. There should be no pay or benefits given to politicians, it should be volunteer work. Most of what they do can be done from there computer at home or by phone and fax. Their wages should be 50% of what a Private earns , if they want the other 50% then pick up a rifle and spend some time in a forward area.
     
    so you think that just because your niece makes 17hr everyone makes 17 hr?

    No...I'm an idiot. Please disregard my comments (as you have already done) and assume I'm a moron who is telling you this to be a dick.

    Sanders has a way of paying his people that is righteous and fair...I don't agree with some of his Politics but he's not fucking his workers as this Fake News presents. Our Government and our Media are fucking you and me and lying/grooming/cheating US every minute and your take on it is that anyone who disagrees with you is a moron.

    Done.

    VooDoo
     
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    No...I'm an idiot. Please disregard my comments (as you have already done) and assume I'm a moron who is telling you this to be a dick.

    Sanders has a way of paying his people that is righteous and fair...I don't agree with some of his Politics but he's not fucking his workers as this Fake News presents. Our Government and our Media are fucking you and me and lying/grooming/cheating US every minute and your take on it is that anyone who disagrees with you is a moron.

    Done.

    VooDoo

    You said - "idiot" and "moron" (twice)

    He said - nothing of the kind.

    Just trying to keep it real.
     
    Well this is the Bear Pit, not for the thin skinned nor faint of heart. Cynicism abounds abundantly. You have to admit that elected Socialist/Democrats/yes Repubs too have the mantra that they know what is best for us/the country in general, but it doesn't apply to them.
     
    No...I'm an idiot. Please disregard my comments (as you have already done) and assume I'm a moron who is telling you this to be a dick.

    Sanders has a way of paying his people that is righteous and fair...I don't agree with some of his Politics but he's not fucking his workers as this Fake News presents. Our Government and our Media are fucking you and me and lying/grooming/cheating US every minute and your take on it is that anyone who disagrees with you is a moron.

    Done.

    VooDoo

    Well, you called it.
     
    CNN has it up. I’m flying, so it’s ok. They are damaging Biden also. It well could be BS to elevate their pick (prick). We’ll see if they opt to do a sweet piece on their sweetheart.
     
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    No...I'm an idiot. Please disregard my comments (as you have already done) and assume I'm a moron who is telling you this to be a dick.

    Sanders has a way of paying his people that is righteous and fair...I don't agree with some of his Politics but he's not fucking his workers as this Fake News presents. Our Government and our Media are fucking you and me and lying/grooming/cheating US every minute and your take on it is that anyone who disagrees with you is a moron.

    Done.

    VooDoo


    Sanders, the media or the employees (more likely, all of the above) are lying. Regardless of which, your people are the liars.
     
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    Fucking carpetbagger who figured out at a early age to live off the backs of hardworking taxpayers. There should be no pay or benefits given to politicians, it should be volunteer work. Most of what they do can be done from there computer at home or by phone and fax. Their wages should be 50% of what a Private earns , if they want the other 50% then pick up a rifle and spend some time in a forward area.

    Volunteering was the way it was originally intended to work. It’s a far cry what it was supposed to be today. I agree, no politician should make a salary. If we could figure out how to do away with that, 95% if all the problems that come out of DC would evaporate over night because they’d all quit and move on. Then you might have real people that want to make real change volunteer and get some real shit done for their country.
     
    One one side I want this $15/hr minimum wage to go through so most of these untrained/unskilled/uneducated leaches will end up out of a job and holefully learning a trade or go to school to better themselves. As @Jscb1b said, $15/hr for flipping a burger is simply stupid. McDonalds has proven they will work around some of that garbage.

    On the other hand I hate to see this have a negative impact on small mom-and-pop businesses.
     
    I started my own business in 2001 I was kind of nervous telling the owner of the company I was working for at the time what my plans were. I thought he was going to be pissed at me for the time and money they had invested in me only for me to hit the road and try to do it on my own. To my surprise he wasn't mad at all he said "There are those that strive for more in life and then there are ditch diggers we need ditch diggers and there will always be ditch diggers I wish you all the best" BTW I don't look down on anyone digging a ditch I have done it and I still do it on occasion.........My point is you can't be just a ditch digger and expect to live the live style of the person that owns the company.
     
    I am pretty sceptical and have a deep hatred for the MSM myself, but what part of this story is fake news?


    No...I'm an idiot. Please disregard my comments (as you have already done) and assume I'm a moron who is telling you this to be a dick.

    Sanders has a way of paying his people that is righteous and fair...I don't agree with some of his Politics but he's not fucking his workers as this Fake News presents. Our Government and our Media are fucking you and me and lying/grooming/cheating US every minute and your take on it is that anyone who disagrees with you is a moron.

    Done.

    VooDoo
     
    they said they would cut hours so the staff would not make less than $15hr for the time they actually work.
    possible translation: staff will be required to charge all time against cost codes and justify the hours or they won't be paid for that time,
     
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    I started my own business in 2001 I was kind of nervous telling the owner of the company I was working for at the time what my plans were. I thought he was going to be pissed at me for the time and money they had invested in me only for me to hit the road and try to do it on my own. To my surprise he wasn't mad at all he said "There are those that strive for more in life and then there are ditch diggers we need ditch diggers and there will always be ditch diggers I wish you all the best" BTW I don't look down on anyone digging a ditch I have done it and I still do it on occasion.........My point is you can't be just a ditch digger and expect to live the live style of the person that owns the company.

    So, what do you do? What.kind of biz?
     
    So, what do you do? What.kind of biz?
    I own a plumbing company we do everything from changing a washer in a faucet to running the main sewer and water lines for new construction most of my business right now is new construction. I have had to turn down work lately because I don't have the manpower to take on anymore work.
     
    One one side I want this $15/hr minimum wage to go through so most of these untrained/unskilled/uneducated leaches will end up out of a job and holefully learning a trade or go to school to better themselves. As @Jscb1b said, $15/hr for flipping a burger is simply stupid. McDonalds has proven they will work around some of that garbage.

    They want $15/Hr snd they cant get the order right 50% of the time.
     
    I was gonna get around to making the fast food point.
    Day fore yestiddy.
    On my way to work, in the usual hurry. Stopped at Arby's. 1/2 pound RB combo, and order of onion rings, 12 bucks and change. I ordered the combo cause it's .30 more and the guy I'm relieving on shift loves them shitty curly fries.
    Hand me my bag, heft it right, I make the mistake of not looking in the bag.

    I get to work, you guessed it, no onion rings. I didn't look in the bag, I didn't smell onion rings. My fault.....or is it?
    If I increase their pay to $15/hr, and my order increases to $16 instead of $12, are they gonna get my order right?

    Maybe we should be more diligent about checking our orders....
    Nah, I've got a better idea. Quit eating that shit. If their pay goes to $15 an hour, a LOT of folks will quit eating that shit.

    I've got so much to say about the whole thing, but I won't. It's got a lot more facets than I want to discuss. I'll just say, too many of us are so busy trying to make a living and outrun the next round of liberal retard economic fuckups, that we are killing ourselves due to the most precious thing they are stealing from us all......
    Time
     
    I was gonna get around to making the fast food point.
    Day fore yestiddy.
    On my way to work, in the usual hurry. Stopped at Arby's. 1/2 pound RB combo, and order of onion rings, 12 bucks and change. I ordered the combo cause it's .30 more and the guy I'm relieving on shift loves them shitty curly fries.
    Hand me my bag, heft it right, I make the mistake of not looking in the bag.

    I get to work, you guessed it, no onion rings. I didn't look in the bag, I didn't smell onion rings. My fault.....or is it?
    If I increase their pay to $15/hr, and my order increases to $16 instead of $12, are they gonna get my order right?

    Maybe we should be more diligent about checking our orders....
    Nah, I've got a better idea. Quit eating that shit. If their pay goes to $15 an hour, a LOT of folks will quit eating that shit.

    I've got so much to say about the whole thing, but I won't. It's got a lot more facets than I want to discuss. I'll just say, too many of us are so busy trying to make a living and outrun the next round of liberal retard economic fuckups, that we are killing ourselves due to the most precious thing they are stealing from us all......
    Time

    Agreed 1000%. This is one reason the family unit and thereby modern society is so screwed up!
     
    i dont watch his campaigns but i have seen a few clips. this man is ignorant, clueless and lack what it takes to be a president. no doubt he has several Medical issues. i wonder what's wrong with him.
     
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    There’s a reason minimum wage is so low. Some jobs don’t require much responsibility, effort, brainpower, creativity, management, math, communications, or other skills that are essential for business. Therefore raising min wage ultimately rewards employees at the cost of the public. Better idea- work your way up to a higher paying job like the rest of us.
     
    There’s a reason minimum wage is so low. Some jobs don’t require much responsibility, effort, brainpower, creativity, management, math, communications, or other skills that are essential for business. Therefore raising min wage ultimately rewards employees at the cost of the public. Better idea- work your way up to a higher paying job like the rest of us.

    That deserves the Orson for today.
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    What they don't understand is they can raise the minimum wage to $15/hr, but I don't think it will take long before $15/hr only buys what $7.25/hr buys now and then they are right back to where they are now economically. All raising the minimum wage will do is speed up inflation.
     
    In 1987 I got a good job right out of highschool. $5.17/hr. I was tickled shitless to be lowering cleanouts, raising manholes, making water and sewer taps. I showed initiative and talent, so from time to time they'd let me run backhoes, excavators, and if I was real lucky a bulldozer. My father told me at an early age I could do anything I set my mind to. Maybe I didn't dream big enough.

    By '89 I had been chosen to go to the Wastewater plant. Not quite the "fine minds" cadre of the engineering Dept, but close. At $6.75/hr, and raises commensurate with my state certifications, I was shitting in tall cotton. By '93 I was grade IV certified and pulling down $11.90/hr.

    I've got 30+ years now in one of the most stable retirement systems in the country. It ain't much, but it's stable.
    None of it was easy. I had to climb all the rungs to where I am now. I'm in middle management now, and I peer around at all the little shits that think they should have my job because of a fancy piece of ass striking paper. At this point I'm still here just to piss them off.....and because when the chips are down they run to the "old man" because they "can't figure this out".
     
    And I demand socialist commie fucks are walked to the gallows an
    i dont watch his campaigns but i have seen a few clips. this man is ignorant, clueless and lack what it takes to be a president. no doubt he has several Medical issues. i wonder what's wrong with him.
    he has shit for brains, that’s what’s wrong!
     
    it might be stable now but take the lump sum when you retire, get some pro advice.

    In 1987 I got a good job right out of highschool. $5.17/hr. I was tickled shitless to be lowering cleanouts, raising manholes, making water and sewer taps. I showed initiative and talent, so from time to time they'd let me run backhoes, excavators, and if I was real lucky a bulldozer. My father told me at an early age I could do anything I set my mind to. Maybe I didn't dream big enough.

    By '89 I had been chosen to go to the Wastewater plant. Not quite the "fine minds" cadre of the engineering Dept, but close. At $6.75/hr, and raises commensurate with my state certifications, I was shitting in tall cotton. By '93 I was grade IV certified and pulling down $11.90/hr.

    I've got 30+ years now in one of the most stable retirement systems in the country. It ain't much, but it's stable.
    None of it was easy. I had to climb all the rungs to where I am now. I'm in middle management now, and I peer around at all the little shits that think they should have my job because of a fancy piece of ass striking paper. At this point I'm still here just to piss them off.....and because when the chips are down they run to the "old man" because they "can't figure this out".