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Thank you Jake for taking the time to post those pics. That is helpful and I understand now.Yes, the bipod was the culprit. Out of square means the rifle is on one line and the bipod is going across that line of the barrel and the legs weren’t square. I don’t know how to explain this and it shouldn’t be hard for you to figure out what I am talking about.
Don't know what to tell you. I have a Harris bipod I have used for about 15 years in matches and on all the above rifle calibers as well and still works like a champ. Quite a few others over a decade old and the same.
The same amount?So after adding the $70 pan adaptor to your $100 bipod, how much money are you really saving?
Ditto..
I've tried several others and just go back to my Harris.
I run the Harris, notched legs, swivel head on my primary PRS rifle. I put an arca mount on it so its quick detach and slides/adjusts the entire length of my handguard. I have quite simply never needed anything else.
You guys are lying. Didn't you read this thread? No one can shoot accurately with a Harris. It's better to shoot off a dead dog if you can't afford an Atlas! Lol
And the ground is always perfectly level...So next week I'll ... naw, no need because there is ALWAYS the EXACT same amount of pressure on both legs of a bipod at each shot on a timed stage....
Does your shirt say Hymen?
So after adding the $70 pan adaptor to your $100 bipod, how much money are you really saving?
I've owned cheap bipods in the past, and they always seemed like garbage, but I also understand technology advances things. I personally have a BT65 CAL on my Tikka. My buddy is building a long range shooter in 6.5 on a very tight budget, and needs the best bang for the buck on a bipod around $100 (bonus for being less). I need opinions on what you believe is a solid piece. Please, no speculation though. I need input from shooters that have used those bipods. He has options of both sling stud mounted and picatinny rail mounted. Thanks fellas!
Just a reminder to get the thread back on track. This is what the OP and his friend are looking for. Not $300+ options. Harris and Magpul are his best two choices in this price range. Now it's up to him to decide.
If that question is for me, I'm into my arca adapter for about peanuts.
I own a lot of rifles with the sling stud adapters for the Harris, and didnt want to make a permanent head swap. So I got on Ebay and bought a couple little sling stud adapters and a couple arca clamps and made a pair of arca adapters. I drilled and tapped the arca clamp and attached the stud adapter to the bottom. I spent less than $20 for the pair of them.
Which goes to the point of this whole thread. You dont have to spend a metric crap ton of money for top of the line everything to get stuff that works.
Here it is on my 223 trainer if you want to zoom in on it.
Magpul but it wouldn't go lo
Take a look at the new Utg Pro Tbnr bipod, its nice and its there 1st bipod made here in the Usa. Lifetime warranty. They just came out this summer. There is a 3 minute trailer on youtube about it. See what you think...
So it's still $180... it's not exactly cheap and at that price I'd rather have a Atlas.
You can find them for 140.00
^^^^ THIS.Currently on Midway for $70.
Is it an Atlas? Nope.
Is it the same quality as an Atlas? Nope.
Will it do 70% of the things an Atlas does? Maybe. 80%? I dunno.
Will it work as a reasonably stable and reasonably durable rest for someone shooting in their free time and just getting into the hobby to learn what they need, what they want and how things work? Maybe so... then in a few months or a year or two, maybe they decide they need something a bit more durable/solid/flexible, etc. Everyone's definition of reasonable is different. Instead, may here just want to ridicule someone not willing to jump in and commit their kids' college funds to building the ultimate rifle before they even know if they have the ability to learn, the time and energy to get better etc.
For God's sake... if you don't want to participate in the community for any reason other than to mock people who aren't 'operators' like you, then there's something seriously wrong - and not with them.
Just sayin'.
If you want the shooting community to fade into obscurity and eventually be legislated out of existence or into nothing more than .177 caliber air rifle paper punching in the Olympics... this is how you go about it. Running off new shooters instead of supporting them and helping them learn as they go.
Good luck.
I guess I am looking at it from the perspective of this sport I’d expensive and frustrating as a beginner.
Bad equipment makes it even more so. If I am spending $100 I’d rather spend $175-$200 on
an Atlas an not worry about it.
ive had some budget gear and it was bad news, Ioff brand Harris list a foot in the field and I broke a leg on an evolution bipod. Both of these cost me my afternoon at a match so I didn’t actually save any money after lost entertainment fees and the hassle of sent them back.
plus you’re support a company supporting us. I am not trying to be an elite operator or budget shame any one. I like to know when i miss it’s on me and sit out a match bc of failed equipment.
NO. THEY ARE NOT "THAT BAD."Are Harris THAT bad?
Then for crying out loud USE IT.I like mine.
Brinassguy not trying to start a fight but stating facts. People were shooting accurately before the 2010 release of Atlas bipods and continue to do so without them. Guy wants to spend $100. He has his options and Atlas isn't one.
I appreciate everyone that's actually answering my question instead of trying to flame or gear shame. Let me clarify who my friend is, and what he'll be doing. He's a disabled combat veteran that's on a fixed income, and has two young kids. He's trying to get into hunting and long range shooting for the first time since his disabling injury occurred (Desert Storm). He walks with the assistance of canes, so competitions that involve running and/or standing to shoot aren't in his realm do "doable". His budget is tight, and he'll never spend $200+ on a bipod, even if he saved up. He'd rather spend the money on his kids...
Magpul. Throw the harris in the trash when you are done hurting yourself with it.
It's simply amazing that now the trend is Harris bipods are junk and you are better off shooting off a fence post than using one. I will have to add that to the list that 308's are obsolete and 260's are extinct...
Brinassguy not trying to start a fight but stating facts. People were shooting accurately before the 2010 release of Atlas bipods and continue to do so without them. Guy wants to spend $100. He has his options and Atlas isn't one.