Rifle Scopes best cqb optics that can take a bumpki

[yocan]

I'm in afghanistan at the moment we just re bzod our rifles after 6 months, mine needed 11 clicks, (7 ro the right, 4 down) from my perspective that seems a lot, I was planning on getting an acog when I got home for my 10.5" 6.5 grendel ar pistol (when the paperwork gets done I will put it on my sbr lower and put a suppressor on it but for now its a pistol)

Its made me re-evaluate. For the price/clarity I've always like ior valdada scopes. But up to 1000 I'm open to suggestions. will a non floating optic mantain its zero better or worse than an acog? really conceptually like this style of scope with the bare version http://www.valdada.com/product/40e3b604-7044-4532-b71d-93037f0e8166.aspx saw one in the for sale section on this website so figured if yall have them, you might know something about them.

 

[BIG MASE]

Re: best cqb optics that can take a bumpki

ACOG or Elcan Specter OS3x

 

[Force_Multiplier]

Re: best cqb optics that can take a bumpki

aimpoint comp M4

 

[Redmanss]

Re: best cqb optics that can take a bumpki

Whether that really is a large adjustment or not depends on a few things. First, have you removed the sight at all over the course of your tour? Were you wearing the same exact equipment for the two zeroing exercises? Same range/position/conditions? Rifle get beat up at all?

Any number of things can cause a shift like that and you're only talking about 2moa windage and just over 1moa elevation. It is a bit hotter now than it was in February so there is your elevation shift. A simple change in position or trigger manipulation can cause the windage shift. This time or the last you could have had bad natural point of aim.

ACOGs are tough as hell but not impervious to everything, especially combat conditions. They can and do fail, but they're still the toughest thing going IMO. For your situation, I wouldn't question the durability of your optic at all.

For your situation on what you're looking to get for your personal rifle, I don't shoot IOR so I won't comment there. I will say that for strictly CQB I prefer Aimpoints over all other options I've tried thus far including BAC ACOGs and EOTech. Gotta give the switchview Elcans a try though as I keep hearing great things about them but I've only tried the 4x fixed version.

 

[athhud]

Re: best cqb optics that can take a bumpki

Our usage of an optic couldn't be more different, but for my purposes the ACOG is a thing of the past. I can't come up with enough justification to warrant using an ACOG instead of a quality true 1-? power illuminated variable optic.

 

[yocan]

Re: best cqb optics that can take a bumpki

no I've never removed the sight, yes I was wearing slightly different set up including the gloves. I'll agree its slightly hotter but will 25 degrees make for near that many clicks? Personally when shooting at 25m and using a rest both times (sandbag) i just think from getting banged around 11 clicks seemed alittle much.still close enough to kill someone but pretty much makes a headshot an impracticality.

 

[Redmanss]

Re: best cqb optics that can take a bumpki

That 7 clicks laterally and 4 vertically equates into a 2.8" shift at 100yds. Seriously, that is as simple as different NPA or uniform and is not something to be too worried about. Your trigger control could be different now than it was half a year ago.

The clicks on an ACOG are in 1/3moa increments and isn't something to get overly worked up about. I would be wondering if you were talking about that many clicks on iron sights, but not on an ACOG. Your shift was pretty minor.

Best of luck.

 

[jakhamr81]

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Also, don't forget that rounds tend to have faster velocity in the warmer temperatures. That could easily explain the elevation shift. I am also assuming that you zeroed at the same exact location. Altitude, barometric pressure, humidity, and density altitude all have an effect on the round. It could also be due to a different lot of ammo. There are many variables that can have a great effect on your zero here.