Seen a lot of different muzzle breaks - anyone have experience with more than one on their TRG? I have heard Near Manufacturing makes a good one and Rich Reiley in Colorado any others. Might be nice to do a survey of what is available versus performance.
Best Muzzle Break for Sako TRG
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The insipration for this post is I just purchased a TRG22 in .308. The previous owner deciced to cut the guide screw head off the muzzle break. It wouldn't be a big issue except that I wanted to rebarrel the rifle to .260 Rem and was initially planning to use the old muzzle break. After looking around for Sako TRG parts, which appear to be rather difficult to locate to locate anywhere besides the owners manual it got me to thinking about maybe just having my local gunsmith remove the old muzzle break and replace with something better than the stock Sako muzzle break.
Any input would be appreciated.
Any input would be appreciated.
I would advise against the factory TRG break. It was designed for the 338 and it's inefficient in the 30 Cals. The exit hole is huge for the 338. They never made a smaller version for the 308/300. If you have to thread the barrel, you might as well get it in the standard 5/8-24 thread. There are tons of break to pick and chose from in that thread. The original M18x1 thread has very limited options. The Steyr break that comes on their 30 cal rifles is considerably better, and is also in M18x1. Surefire also has a decent break in M18x1 that can be used with its suppressors if you choose to in the future.
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No worries. I've been down your road already. Eventually just had the barrel rethreaded to 5/8-24. Made life so much easier, and your choices endless.
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Have you used a factory brake?
I have one on my TRG-22 in .260 Rem and I can tell you it is extremely effective. The recoil with the brake is less than an un-braked .223. I know you're going to say that a .260 doesn't have much recoil to begin with, and while it has less than a .308, it still has a very noticeable recoil without the brake. With the brake, virtually nothing.
I can't speak for Sigma - but I have never actually fired the TRG22 I just bought. I have read a lot about it and decided I would take the plunge. First thing is to shoot it as is with the current muzzle brake in .308. I have an M-1A and it has some kick but not too scary or painful. Later, when I rebarrel to .260 I will have a better idea of the difference. However, rebarreling provides the opportunity to thread the new barrel for a muzzle brake - I could go with 1:18 per Sako factor specs - ie if that muzzle break is just fine for the intended purpose, or I could get something else. Obviously, threading for a non-factory spec threads opens up possibilities. Unfortunately, I am more likely to have to make the choice without the benefit of side by side shooting to make up my mind for myself. Ergo, here I am with hat in hand looking for some recommendations.
has anyone bothered to try to quantify what constitutes an exceptional muzzle brake? Sure, one can say - "it feels easier." I guess what I am getting at is has someone done anything a bit more scientific and made actual measurements of recoil force reduction, or intrinsics like a) reduction in visual signature, b) reduction in blasting of ground debris? In a perfect world you have say 10-15 muzzle brakes - you screw each one on in turn, fire, measure the recoil force (somehow), make a subjective report on signature and debris - something like that - rank order the groups based on the criteria and then you have something useful Perhaps, not unlike the caliber Stickey - really cover pros and cons. It is definitely useful to to have a subjective report but they carry less weight without the objective stuff.
Yes I have. Both the TRG42 and the Blaser came with the same break. Both were 300 win mag. Did the TRG break make a difference? It was definitely better than nothing at all. When I switched to the JP break, it was like night and day! The difference was huge. Especially in the Blaser that was lighter. The TRG break also sends the gasses down to the ground, which kicks up a storm when you fire the 300 win mag. Unless they changed something in the last couple of years, the TRG break was bored out for a 338, and they didn't have a smaller one for .30 cal. That makes for a less effective break. Get a 30 cal specific break, and you'll notice a difference. Probably not as much in 308 as with a 300 win mag.
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Sigma05, I have an idea to try to quantify the recoil force - need to think about it a bit. I would need some sort of device to measure force of recoil at the shoulder pad. The other objective criteria might be audible sound. Subjective criteria are muzzle brake visual signature; light or debris disturbance. Be cool to set up an apparatus to try various brakes and compare against no brake or the stock brake. I am going talk with my local gunsmith see what he has to say. More to follow.
I think it would be kind neat to see a section at sniper's hide that could provide somewhat of a shooter's report, either from gathering existing data or generating our own data on relative performance of muzzle breaks, suppressors, etc. The availability of such resource can be invaluable in helping fellow shooters make informed choice for themselves, that coupled with a whole host of personal accounts/experiences really enhances the decision making process.
I think it would be kind neat to see a section at sniper's hide that could provide somewhat of a shooter's report, either from gathering existing data or generating our own data on relative performance of muzzle breaks, suppressors, etc. The availability of such resource can be invaluable in helping fellow shooters make informed choice for themselves, that coupled with a whole host of personal accounts/experiences really enhances the decision making process.
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i really like my roedale brake. doesnt kick up any dirt which was a major deciding factor for me. optics are expensive and i like to keep em clean.
Sorry I can't provide side by side evaluations, but I can tell you what I did. I was reluctant to have the barrel rethreaded, so I had a Precision Armament M11 rethreaded to M18-1 so it would fit. It seems pretty effective at reducing recoil, not bad on dust since there are no bottom ports and I think it looks better than many of the options out there, including Sako.
I'd check out the availability of other brakes in your size threads before I concluded I had to rethread my barrel.
I have a Near brake as well as a Near base. Both are much better than the factory offerings in my opinion.
RRW,
Can you please describe specifically what you think is better about the Near brake and base? Do you notice for example significantly less recoil? Is the machining of an obviously better quality? Better direction of blast, ie not downward?
Can you please describe specifically what you think is better about the Near brake and base? Do you notice for example significantly less recoil? Is the machining of an obviously better quality? Better direction of blast, ie not downward?
True but I ended up getting a metric aac brake in the for sale section here not too long ago and I love it soo far. Nice not having to re thread the barrel to standard. Best of luck
a fat bastard brake is very good also,by apa. i think they will do the 18.1 thread.
i run the roedale brake on a 300 and it works well but it's $ and hard to get, having shoot a 300rsaum with a fat bastard
and a 7 creddmore i would definitely go with the fat bastard next time.
i run the roedale brake on a 300 and it works well but it's $ and hard to get, having shoot a 300rsaum with a fat bastard
and a 7 creddmore i would definitely go with the fat bastard next time.
Quantifiable, Objective Comparison of Muzzle Brakes, Flash Hiders, Compensators
I, too have been looking for an objective, science-based comparison of muzzle brakes, and I found this one for the AR15. It's not the perfect solution for you, but it should assist in determining which designs have the overall best performance for what you want to accomplish:
AR15 Muzzle Brake/Flash Hider/Compensator Comparison, Part 3
Hope you find it useful
I, too have been looking for an objective, science-based comparison of muzzle brakes, and I found this one for the AR15. It's not the perfect solution for you, but it should assist in determining which designs have the overall best performance for what you want to accomplish:
AR15 Muzzle Brake/Flash Hider/Compensator Comparison, Part 3
Hope you find it useful
