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What would be the board‘s opinion on a Razor Gen 3 or Zeiss S3 at the same price? I have a Gen 3 razor and another on order from Scott, but I like trying different things. Was thinking of grabbing a S3 to compare, or just stick with Razors.
Zeiss LRP S3 4-25x50 or Burris XTR-IIIi 5.5-30x56 SCR 2.Looking for a new optic to put on my 224 Valkyrie bolt gun. This will be used for local matches and banging steel so I’m not too concerned with weight. Looking pretty hard at the 5-25 mark 5HD and the bushnell xrs3. Anything else I should consider in my price range?
Zeiss...All day everyday.What would be the board‘s opinion on a Razor Gen 3 or Zeiss S3 at the same price? I have a Gen 3 razor and another on order from Scott, but I like trying different things. Was thinking of grabbing a S3 to compare, or just stick with Razors.
Don't insult Arkens like that by comparing them to Fuddget optics like the Leupold VX series.Thats a step up? From what? Arken?
Seriously, that's a tough call. Both are solid and amazing scopes. If you want the slight advantage in glass out of those 2, then I'd go with the LRP S3. If you get a chance, look through both outside (if the store clerk will let you and walk out there with you).My next optic will be the Zeiss or the XTR Pro.
What would be the board‘s opinion on a Razor Gen 3 or Zeiss S3 at the same price? I have a Gen 3 razor and another on order from Scott, but I like trying different things. Was thinking of grabbing a S3 to compare, or just stick with Razors.
Decided to pull the trigger and ordered one from Eurooptic today.I think if you tried the S3 you would be more than happy with the choice.
You'll love it! The glass is bright, clear, and crisp.Decided to pull the trigger and ordered one from Eurooptic today.
I don't have an NX8 or an XTR-PRO, but I do have a new ATACR F1 5-25x56, and an XTR-III 5.5-30x56. And going off of that comparison... The NX8 might have better (smoother) turrets, but as far as glass is concerned, the XTR-PRO is probably the winner. Like I said, just taking a guess based on my own experience with similar scopes.Would you guys recommend an XTR Pro over the NX8?
Would you guys recommend an XTR Pro over the NX8?
Would you guys recommend an XTR Pro over the NX8?
The Zeiss LRP S3 is for damn sure a solid option. I love my 6-36x56 Z-MRi.Gen3 razor or zeiss LRP S3 Are where I'd go with a 2k budget, the new steiner t6xi 3-18 I have is quite nice too. Lots of good glass in that 1700-2300 range anymore. Yes a guy can go into the used market and get kahles, atacr, maybe pm2. But honestly I don't think kahles glass is equal to the scopes mentioned above, S&B reticles suck, and the serveral of the atacr line excluding 4-20 and 7-35, honestly have no advantages over the my recommendations other than a proven track record. I'm currently ha in to send an atacr 525 in for apparent problems right now, so they're not bullet proof either.
My brand new ATACR F1 5-25x56's parallax is so far off, it's worse than any of my Arkens. At 100 yards, I'm having to run it on about the 60 yard setting to get a clear image.Just had them side by side last week and NX8 has better glass and much smaller. Everyone complains about NX8 parallax but the xtr pro is just as touchy. XTR pro eyebox is better tho.
Overall, NX8 is a better optic IMO
My brand new ATACR F1 5-25x56's parallax is so far off, it's worse than any of my Arkens. At 100 yards, I'm having to run it on about the 60 yard setting to get a clear image.
Interesting. I’ve heard a lot of people say the XTR Pro glass is better than NX8 and close to the ATACR so I was thinking of going that route but thanks for the info.Just had them side by side last week and NX8 has better glass and much smaller. Everyone complains about NX8 parallax but the xtr pro is just as touchy. XTR pro eyebox is better tho.
Overall, NX8 is a better optic IMO
Were you ever able to do the side by side?I’m hoping to get my G3 Razor and the S3 on tripods next to each other. Quick looks at the house the Zeiss reticle seems really nice and maybe a tad easier to pick up than the Razor.
The only NF that is comparable spec wise to the Gen3 is a 7-35, and it does have very good glass. I genuinely like the feel of the NF turrets a lil better than my Gen3's but that rotating eye piece when adj magnification just bugs me for some reason. The 7-35 is a very good scope, but doesn't provide the bang for buck value of a gen3 when acquired at some these excellent prices.I kind of feel the opposite. I feel like I'd even swap my Razor G3 for another Zeiss. I do love the zeroing system on the Razor, not sure why I've seen complaints about that. The easiest zero and zero stop I've used. Both scopes are extremely comparable. I like the reticle a little more on the Zeiss, but I put in an order for another Razor through Scott for 4th of July sale.
I shot our FPR match last month with an ATACR, this month will probably use the Zeiss next weekend. Both will be with 6.5CM, curious to see how those stack up against each other. I know previously we've said that even with the expert voice discount the ATACR wasn't worth the premium over the Razor.
Interesting. I’ve heard a lot of people say the XTR Pro glass is better than NX8 and close to the ATACR so I was thinking of going that route but thanks for the info.
I’d hazard a guess that there is a shiiiiitload more G3s out there than S3s at this point in time.
I've also done quite a bit of research on the S3 and everything points to a great scope. It appears the turrets and parallax on the S3 are the major complaint I've learned from many reviews.
Well for sure. The S3 is a much newer scopeI’d hazard a guess that there is a shiiiiitload more G3s out there than S3s at this point in time.
Well for sure. The S3 is a much newer scope