Rifle Scopes Box testing a PST 6-24 SFP thru scope pics added

[Brett_B]

Re: Box testing a Viper PST 6-24 SFP

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Scott_at_Vortex</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jasonk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Scott, is the subtension of the reticle on the 4-16 the same as the 6-24 or is the 4-16 thicker due to it being lower power?

Jason </div></div>


Jason,
The 6-24 FFP mil is .04mils and the 4-16 is .06. I would have done the 4-16 also ,but I don't currently have access to one.



Scott </div></div>

Scott,
The pictures look great.
The manual on the Vortex website lists the subtensions for the 2.5-10x44 as .04 mil and the 4-16x50 SFP as .03 mil. Are these numbers still accurate? I really like having the finer crosshairs on the 4-16x50 SFP model. Also, I would assume the crosshairs are the same thickness on the MOA models?

Thanks,
Brett

 

[jrob300]

Re: Box testing a Viper PST 6-24 SFP

Scott,

When you redo your box test, it would be good to see some baseline groups so we can see how much of that variation is "normal".

I would expect to see much better box results at 100 yds. than shown, if the rifle/shooter combo were consistently shooting 1/4" groups. But if the groups looked like that without dialing, a different story.

Thanks again for all this feedback before the scopes are even on the streets!

John

 

[JelloStorm]

Re: Box testing a Viper PST 6-24 SFP

I'm dying to see a through-the-scope view of the 4-16 FFP!

Preordered one the other day with SWFA.

Also interested in the subtension question posted above.

 

[rksimple]

Re: Box testing a Viper PST 6-24 SFP

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jasonk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Scott, is the subtension of the reticle on the 4-16 the same as the 6-24 or is the 4-16 thicker due to it being lower power?

Jason </div></div>

According to the website and Sams posts, the 4-16 EBR1 is .06 mil and the 6-24 is .04 mil. This has me leaning toward the 6-24 for that reason alone. I would prefer the 4-16 with a .04 mil reticle.

 

[Scott_at_Vortex]

Re: Box testing a Viper PST 6-24 SFP

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Brett B</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Scott_at_Vortex</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jasonk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Scott, is the subtension of the reticle on the 4-16 the same as the 6-24 or is the 4-16 thicker due to it being lower power?

Jason </div></div>


Jason,
The 6-24 FFP mil is .04mils and the 4-16 is .06. I would have done the 4-16 also ,but I don't currently have access to one.



Scott </div></div>

Scott,
The pictures look great.
The manual on the Vortex website lists the subtensions for the 2.5-10x44 as .04 mil and the 4-16x50 SFP as .03 mil. Are these numbers still accurate? I really like having the finer crosshairs on the 4-16x50 SFP model. Also, I would assume the crosshairs are the same thickness on the MOA models?

Thanks,
Brett </div></div>Yes those numbers are correct.






Scott

 

[coldboremiracle]

Re: Box testing a Viper PST 6-24 SFP

Must have!! please hurry.

 

[jeffersonv]

Re: Box testing a Viper PST 6-24 SFP

top

 

[winxp_man]

Re: Box testing a Viper PST 6-24 SFP

any new test pics we can get a look at

i will have to preorder me the 4-16x50 and the 1-4x30

also how are the clicks and do the dials have any kind of
movement in them as in a little side to side ?

 

[Scott_at_Vortex]

Re: Box testing a Viper PST 6-24 SFP

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: winxp_man</div><div class="ubbcode-body">any new test pics we can get a look at

i will have to preorder me the 4-16x50 and the 1-4x30

also how are the clicks and do the dials have any kind of
movement in them as in a little side to side ? </div></div>


The turrets are rock solid as far as sturdiness is concerned. The clicks are very distinct and audible.


Scott

 

[JelloStorm]

Re: Box testing a Viper PST 6-24 SFP

Scott,

Any guesstimate as to when you might be able to post through-the-scope pictures of the 4-16 FFP MRAD?

 

[lostangel]

Re: Box testing a Viper PST 6-24 SFP

Scott,
can you estimate/best guess the range of those pics? ie, how far away is that rooftop?

Thanks
Patrick

ps really eying these for a new build I have in my head.

 

[Scott_at_Vortex]

Re: Box testing a Viper PST 6-24 SFP

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lostangel</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Scott,
can you estimate/best guess the range of those pics? ie, how far away is that rooftop?

Thanks
Patrick

ps really eying these for a new build I have in my head. </div></div>The roof top is about 300yds and the house is just shy of 800yds.


Scott

 

[Scott_at_Vortex]

Re: Box testing a Viper PST 6-24 SFP

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JelloStorm</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Scott,

Any guesstimate as to when you might be able to post through-the-scope pictures of the 4-16 FFP MRAD? </div></div>I am hoping to get to it soon ,but I just don't have access to one right now.


Scott

 

[jrob300]

Re: Box testing a Viper PST 6-24 SFP

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Scott_at_Vortex</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lostangel</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Scott,
can you estimate/best guess the range of those pics? ie, how far away is that rooftop?

Thanks
Patrick

ps really eying these for a new build I have in my head. </div></div>The roof top is about 300yds and the house is just shy of 800yds.


Scott </div></div>

Assuming that's a 3'0"x3'0" window, looks like about 500-550 yds to the house. Now, if it's a 4'0"x4'0", that would put it in the 650-700 yd range.

Do you *know* the distance for sure and are my milling skills off that far?

John

 

[enkry]

Re: Box testing a Viper PST 6-24 SFP

do the production scopes have the rose colored glass in them?

 

[JelloStorm]

Re: Box testing a Viper PST 6-24 SFP

wow... no posts in this thread in a while...

Any new info?

 

[jeffersonv]

Re: Box testing a Viper PST 6-24 SFP

I'm still wondering if the sight pic has eliminated the tunnel vision the older Viper had. Maybe I missed it?

 

[LibertyOptics]

Re: Box testing a Viper PST 6-24 SFP

Rose colored glass? Tunnel vision?

Neither are present in the Viper 4-16 or 6-24 PST prototypes I saw.

Where did the "rose colored" glass rumor come from??

Scott

 

[jeffersonv]

Re: Box testing a Viper PST 6-24 SFP

Never heard that one (rose colored).
Thanks for the update on the PST Scott.

 

[Adam B]

Re: Box testing a Viper PST 6-24 SFP

I think he is being a smart ass

<span style="font-style: italic">through rose-colored glasses</span>-
with an attitude that things are better than they really are

 

[enkry]

Re: Box testing a Viper PST 6-24 SFP

no rumor, i just looked at the reticle pictures!! I realize its just pictures and they dont always give a good representation of the glass so i asked. Look at the sky inside the scope and outside the scope and you'll see it.

 

[Chiller]

Re: Box testing a Viper PST 6-24 SFP

Any issue with mounting the PST on a .50BMG?

 

[VortexSam]

Re: Box testing a Viper PST 6-24 SFP

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Enkry</div><div class="ubbcode-body">no rumor, i just looked at the reticle pictures!! I realize its just pictures and they dont always give a good representation of the glass so i asked. Look at the sky inside the scope and outside the scope and you'll see it. </div></div>

I think what you must be seeing is that the scope is focused on the building, so the tree in the background is not in focus and the blur from the branches is blending in with the sky and giving it an unnatural color.

I have looked through every single PST prototype we have and there is absolutely nothing wrong with the glass. It is very clear and color neutral.

-Sam

 

[Scott_at_Vortex]

Re: Box testing a Viper PST 6-24 SFP

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jrob300</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Scott_at_Vortex</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lostangel</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Scott,
can you estimate/best guess the range of those pics? ie, how far away is that rooftop?

Thanks
Patrick

ps really eying these for a new build I have in my head. </div></div>The roof top is about 300yds and the house is just shy of 800yds.


Scott </div></div>

Assuming that's a 3'0"x3'0" window, looks like about 500-550 yds to the house. Now, if it's a 4'0"x4'0", that would put it in the 650-700 yd range.

Do you *know* the distance for sure and are my milling skills off that far?

John </div></div>You sir are correct. I thought I took the pic of the house to the right of there which is "just shy of 800yds". The actual house that is in the pic ranges a tad under 700yds.




Chiller,
The PST's will handle the big 50 with no problems.



Scott

 

[enkry]

Re: Box testing a Viper PST 6-24 SFP

i wasn't sure if that was chromatic aberration or what. Anyway, thanks for following up Scott. I'm looking forward to seeing the PSTs!!

 

[winxp_man]

Re: Box testing a Viper PST 6-24 SFP

Have you got any new pics of any of the scopes

new test results ? thanks ahead of time for info Sam ............