My wife would get pissed, throw a punch, and walk off mad well before we could ever accomplish anything productive while drilling.
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My wife is a blue belt and has legit caught me in several chokes in the last few months. She can roll hard.
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Also, my 5 year old started too. Hes a damn beast. Super scrappy. You couldn't tell the difference between him and kids that have been going for months. He just needs to work on his shrimping and hip escapes. It's his coordination that's holding him back right now but we are working on it.
Trained a couple years with Jacare in Alliance in Atlanta, then a year with Carlson Gracie team south of Chicago — until torn ACL, bulging discs, and age convinced me I should find another hobby. I wouldn’t trade the skills and enjoyment for anything though- I loved it- just wish I’d started when my body was more pliable.
My son killed it tonight at class. They're getting the kids ready for their rank review in April. They were working on single leg take downs and single to double leg. They played a game like king of the hill where the 1 that got the take down stayed and the next kid came up. Jax is 5 and a white belt but the only kid that knocked him off the top spot was much older and a grey belt. The kid didn't even take him down, he sprawled when jax got the leg, spun and took his back. Idk why he was awarded the win bc he didn't take jax down but who cares, jax was a beast. Scrappy af and pushed through until he got the take downs. He wants to eventually compete which is also what I want. Im super boosted on how he's developing. He's leaps and bounds better than his peers at the same belt or even slightly higher belts.
Expensive? Bjj is the cheapest thing we do...
If he’s at least 4, it’s time to start. You’re not getting younger, money isn’t appreciating in value, and time keeps slipping slipping into the future. He’ll advance faster training while it is fun and before he develops an ego or the strength to cheat the movement. You should be able to get a introductory week free. That’s enough time to scope out the gym and the instructor. If you have options, don’t settle for “close“ if a demonstrably better gym isn’t way out of the way. The best time to start bjj for an adult is alway 20 years ago. The next best time to start is today. Don’t call for info. Too easy to put it off until tomorrow. Walk into a gym.
A successful take down scopes 2 points. These games are usually played “first to score points.”
Grey belt stuffed the take down attempt and gained a point scoring position. If it was an actual match and that was all that occurred, the grey belt would have won 4-0. Not taking anything from your son. Just a plausible explanation.
No, I understand that. I take bjj too. Im saying, the rule sets for the drill were to take down the opponent. They weren't free rolling or anything. The whole night was centered on take downs. Its doesn't matter because it was just a drill but I was super proud and excited. Hes only been doing bjj since around Thanksgiving and he's doing amazing.
lol. fortunately, when covid first started, our gym was closed for 2 weeks then opened back up like normal (i wasn't around until Nov). I recently bought a 2" 8'x8' mat for the bonus room for me and little man to work on shit. Whenever he learns something new in class, we go home and work on it.
How do you like your new mat? I'm trying to decide on one for the house. Something to bring to back porch, family room, and garage when weather dictates. Being able to drill at home is worth the price of a mat.
I've got 2 of these. They have velcro and can be as big as u want. Love them.
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I wouldve gotten 3 but 8x8 is exactly the same floor space i have in my bonus room so i was limited to 2.
This was the manual combat shit they taught us back in 2001.
When I got to Ft. Lewis and part of the SBASC, we taught combatives as part of it (well, I didn't).
The combatives trainer was never really there though, they actually sent him to LIVE with Gracie in Brazil or wherever. I guess he spent the better part of two years on army dime down there! Only came home for holidays and once to deploy.
Never really got to spread his training. Only thing I really learned from him was that "knife fighting is mostly a dead art, takes a lot of training". Seriously. He did know his shit though and what's better, he looked like a geek anyone could take. What a sleeper.
We had a combatives competition between our Brigade. Our Company was kicking ass. Then somebody did something illegal, that guy's 1SG berated the ref who he outranked, who changed the call, then our CSM got in his shit and a REAL combatives fight broke out and we all watched that instead. Ended the match. Was the best match out of all of them though, everyone rooting for CSM or their 1SG. Aaah, the good 'ol days!
Lots of people got fucked up in that match as I recall, lots of dislocations and broken bones, those boys don't tap out.
When I got to Ft. Lewis and part of the SBASC, we taught combatives as part of it (well, I didn't).
The combatives trainer was never really there though, they actually sent him to LIVE with Gracie in Brazil or wherever. I guess he spent the better part of two years on army dime down there! Only came home for holidays and once to deploy.
Never really got to spread his training. Only thing I really learned from him was that "knife fighting is mostly a dead art, takes a lot of training". Seriously. He did know his shit though and what's better, he looked like a geek anyone could take. What a sleeper.
We had a combatives competition between our Brigade. Our Company was kicking ass. Then somebody did something illegal, that guy's 1SG berated the ref who he outranked, who changed the call, then our CSM got in his shit and a REAL combatives fight broke out and we all watched that instead. Ended the match. Was the best match out of all of them though, everyone rooting for CSM or their 1SG. Aaah, the good 'ol days!
Lots of people got fucked up in that match as I recall, lots of dislocations and broken bones, those boys don't tap out.
So all of the BJJ guys seem to be in this thread. I’ve got a question for you. Let me preface this with the following meme...
With that, do you consider a tomoe nage sweep to be pulling guard? By far my favorite takedown is a tomoe nage sweep. Rolling with my son tonight in class (16 yo, green belt) I hit one and rolled smoothly into mount. He “accused“ me of pulling guard. So, what say you? Sick sweep, or am I a hypocrite?
With that, do you consider a tomoe nage sweep to be pulling guard? By far my favorite takedown is a tomoe nage sweep. Rolling with my son tonight in class (16 yo, green belt) I hit one and rolled smoothly into mount. He “accused“ me of pulling guard. So, what say you? Sick sweep, or am I a hypocrite?
For those that have done this and other martial arts...how is the injury likely hood comparison. "
Tap early tap often
None of the injuries I've incurred in almost 15 years of grappling have been from trying to "hold out" but rather have been just stupid things that have happened and/or stupid people I was rolling with.
First injury was a sloppy blue belt that couldn't pass my guard standing up, doing a really poor ankle lock and flopping back, breaking one of my toes in the process. No control.
Usually it's the lower belts that are the worst to roll with. They are spastic, little bit out of control. That's where you get hurt, not so much from something they are intending on doing (an attack) but rather just sloppiness. Don't take that as a diss to whites and blues, cause there are a lot of purples I've met that IMO could benefit greatly from calming TF down a good bit. Their rolling would improve drastically because of it.
Try to seek out calmer training partners. Figure out who is "good" at a certain thing you are having trouble with and work with them. Having trouble passing? Find someone with an excellent closed guard and roll with them a lot. One of our black belts is sick with deep half, slays all of us with it. I purposely let him get to that spot every time so I can work through the nuances of fighting that position. Occasionally I can shut it down, sometimes I get swept, doesn't matter it's all learning.
Learn to get past the frustration and understand combatives are a helluva lot of work. Your aren't going to own the gym on Day 1 nor probably on year 13... It is what it is.
Leave the ego and pride at the door. Easy to say, hard to do. If you want to get better, you have to care... but not that much. "Not that much" meaning be wiling to LEARN by losing.
Breathe, try to relax and only tense the muscle groups you are actually using. New whites and blues often feel like a stiff board when you roll with them, tensing every damn muscle in their body. We get early 20's Marines, gym bunnies/body builder types come in and they are just like this. I wrap them up, let them gas out trying to pass for 4 minutes, then swept and submit them. At the end they are huffing and puffing like they climbed a mt and my old arse is breathing normal. Then when they catch their breathe the smart ones will start asking how and why. Staying calm and keeping control in a fight is a positive attribute.
Tap early tap often
None of the injuries I've incurred in almost 15 years of grappling have been from trying to "hold out" but rather have been just stupid things that have happened and/or stupid people I was rolling with.
First injury was a sloppy blue belt that couldn't pass my guard standing up, doing a really poor ankle lock and flopping back, breaking one of my toes in the process. No control.
Usually it's the lower belts that are the worst to roll with. They are spastic, little bit out of control. That's where you get hurt, not so much from something they are intending on doing (an attack) but rather just sloppiness. Don't take that as a diss to whites and blues, cause there are a lot of purples I've met that IMO could benefit greatly from calming TF down a good bit. Their rolling would improve drastically because of it.
Try to seek out calmer training partners. Figure out who is "good" at a certain thing you are having trouble with and work with them. Having trouble passing? Find someone with an excellent closed guard and roll with them a lot. One of our black belts is sick with deep half, slays all of us with it. I purposely let him get to that spot every time so I can work through the nuances of fighting that position. Occasionally I can shut it down, sometimes I get swept, doesn't matter it's all learning.
Learn to get past the frustration and understand combatives are a helluva lot of work. Your aren't going to own the gym on Day 1 nor probably on year 13... It is what it is.
Leave the ego and pride at the door. Easy to say, hard to do. If you want to get better, you have to care... but not that much. "Not that much" meaning be wiling to LEARN by losing.
Breathe, try to relax and only tense the muscle groups you are actually using. New whites and blues often feel like a stiff board when you roll with them, tensing every damn muscle in their body. We get early 20's Marines, gym bunnies/body builder types come in and they are just like this. I wrap them up, let them gas out trying to pass for 4 minutes, then swept and submit them. At the end they are huffing and puffing like they climbed a mt and my old arse is breathing normal. Then when they catch their breathe the smart ones will start asking how and why. Staying calm and keeping control in a fight is a positive attribute.
So far, (I know it won't last) the only injury I've had from someone was getting stacked on to my neck from closed guard then he drove his knee down accidentally landing on my forehead. Heavy pressure passed type blue belt. The worst part of the injury was my neck. Also caught an elbow to the lip but no biggie. My worst injuries are my neck muscles/trap muscles spasms all the time.
This +1000. Tap. It’s easy. Too many hold out too long and get hurt. Just tap. Even Black belts tap. I’m nursing a sore elbow from an unexpected elbow lock. It was pretty sick, I’m not going to lie- we were standing and I had shot in for a grip around the back and left my arm exposed. Brown belt took advantage. It’s not that I was too stubborn to tap, it’s just that the sub‘ came on strong and fast. That said, I have also torn an ACL training with a spazzy blue belt.For those that have done this and other martial arts...how is the injury likely hood comparison. "
Tap early tap often
None of the injuries I've incurred in almost 15 years of grappling have been from trying to "hold out" but rather have been just stupid things that have happened and/or stupid people I was rolling with.
Usually it's the lower belts that are the worst to roll with. They are spastic, little bit out of control. That's where you get hurt, not so much from something they are intending on doing (an attack) but rather just sloppiness. Don't take that as a diss to whites and blues, cause there are a lot of purples I've met that IMO could benefit greatly from calming TF down a good bit. Their rolling would improve drastically because of it.
Try to seek out calmer training partners. Figure out who is "good" at a certain thing you are having trouble with and work with them. Having trouble passing? Find someone with an excellent closed guard and roll with them a lot. One of our black belts is sick with deep half, slays all of us with it. I purposely let him get to that spot every time so I can work through the nuances of fighting that position. Occasionally I can shut it down, sometimes I get swept, doesn't matter it's all learning.
Learn to get past the frustration and understand combatives are a helluva lot of work. Your aren't going to own the gym on Day 1 nor probably on year 13... It is what it is.
Leave the ego and pride at the door. Easy to say, hard to do. If you want to get better, you have to care... but not that much. "Not that much" meaning be wiling to LEARN by losing.
Breathe, try to relax and only tense the muscle groups you are actually using. New whites and blues often feel like a stiff board when you roll with them, tensing every damn muscle in their body. We get early 20's Marines, gym bunnies/body builder types come in and they are just like this. I wrap them up, let them gas out trying to pass for 4 minutes, then swept and submit them. At the end they are huffing and puffing like they climbed a mt and my old arse is breathing normal. Then when they catch their breathe the smart ones will start asking how and why. Staying calm and keeping control in a fight is a positive attribute.
Yeah, he was salty. I’m not sure if it is a named take down, but I have hit this on him a couple of times recently... If I can get leverage over his head, especially if in position for a standing guillotine, reach over the back and grab the belt. Then sit back (as you would for tomoe nage) and roll into mount.
This is spot on. I was a wrestler and when I started bjj it was obvious. Balls out till exhaustion. Learning to relax and making small, almost insignificant movements (as your opponent sees them) for position is where it is at.For those that have done this and other martial arts...how is the injury likely hood comparison. "
Tap early tap often
None of the injuries I've incurred in almost 15 years of grappling have been from trying to "hold out" but rather have been just stupid things that have happened and/or stupid people I was rolling with.
First injury was a sloppy blue belt that couldn't pass my guard standing up, doing a really poor ankle lock and flopping back, breaking one of my toes in the process. No control.
Usually it's the lower belts that are the worst to roll with. They are spastic, little bit out of control. That's where you get hurt, not so much from something they are intending on doing (an attack) but rather just sloppiness. Don't take that as a diss to whites and blues, cause there are a lot of purples I've met that IMO could benefit greatly from calming TF down a good bit. Their rolling would improve drastically because of it.
Try to seek out calmer training partners. Figure out who is "good" at a certain thing you are having trouble with and work with them. Having trouble passing? Find someone with an excellent closed guard and roll with them a lot. One of our black belts is sick with deep half, slays all of us with it. I purposely let him get to that spot every time so I can work through the nuances of fighting that position. Occasionally I can shut it down, sometimes I get swept, doesn't matter it's all learning.
Learn to get past the frustration and understand combatives are a helluva lot of work. Your aren't going to own the gym on Day 1 nor probably on year 13... It is what it is.
Leave the ego and pride at the door. Easy to say, hard to do. If you want to get better, you have to care... but not that much. "Not that much" meaning be wiling to LEARN by losing.
Breathe, try to relax and only tense the muscle groups you are actually using. New whites and blues often feel like a stiff board when you roll with them, tensing every damn muscle in their body. We get early 20's Marines, gym bunnies/body builder types come in and they are just like this. I wrap them up, let them gas out trying to pass for 4 minutes, then swept and submit them. At the end they are huffing and puffing like they climbed a mt and my old arse is breathing normal. Then when they catch their breathe the smart ones will start asking how and why. Staying calm and keeping control in a fight is a positive attribute.
Tomoe nage is a sacrifice throw usually found in Judo, so when you slap it on someone with no Judo experience, they are likely to think that you pulled guard and went straight into a sweep. When unsuccessful, it can be bailed out of into some form of guard, but I wouldn’t call it a guard pull.
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