Breaking: US Supreme Court says BP agents can cut the razor wire in Texas.

[TexPatriot]

It's called the Roosevelt Reservation. It's 60 ft.

The Fed governments owns the first 60ft of land on the US side of the border.

The Supreme Court basically ruled that TX can't take control of federal property and kick the feds out.

Roosevelt Reservation - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

According to the Roosevelt Reservation, the SCOTUS is wrong in the case of Texas.


The Roosevelt Reservation is the 60-foot (18 m)-wide strip of land owned by the United States Federal Government along the United States side of the United States–Mexico Border in three of the four border states. Federal and tribal lands make up 632 miles (1,017 km), or approximately 33 percent, of the nearly 2,000 miles (3,200 km) total. Private and state-owned lands constitute the remaining 67 percent of the border, most of which is located in Texas.[1]

In 1907, Theodore Roosevelt in a Presidential Proclamation (35 Stat. 2136) established the reservation in order to keep all public lands along the border in California, Arizona, and New Mexico "free from obstruction as a protection against the smuggling of goods between the United States and Mexico".[2][3][4] Texas was excluded because Texas retained all public lands upon the Texas annexation and admittance as a state, much of which has been sold over the years to private parties.

In non-legal jargon, the Feds and Border Patrol have no right on the river bank in Texas and can fuck off.

 

[Rio Precision Gunworks]

According to the Roosevelt Reservation, the SCOTUS is wrong in the case of Texas.


The Roosevelt Reservation is the 60-foot (18 m)-wide strip of land owned by the United States Federal Government along the United States side of the United States–Mexico Border in three of the four border states. Federal and tribal lands make up 632 miles (1,017 km), or approximately 33 percent, of the nearly 2,000 miles (3,200 km) total. Private and state-owned lands constitute the remaining 67 percent of the border, most of which is located in Texas.[1]

In 1907, Theodore Roosevelt in a Presidential Proclamation (35 Stat. 2136) established the reservation in order to keep all public lands along the border in California, Arizona, and New Mexico "free from obstruction as a protection against the smuggling of goods between the United States and Mexico".[2][3][4] Texas was excluded because Texas retained all public lands upon the Texas annexation and admittance as a state, much of which has been sold over the years to private parties.

In non-legal jargon, the Feds and Border Patrol have no right on the river bank in Texas and can fuck off.

There's also 8usc 1357 (a)(3) that gives the 25mi rule for patrolling the border. The Roosevelt Reservation deals more with ownership. 8usc 1357 (a)(3) allows Border Patrol to go on any land, except dwellings, regardless of who owns it.

What that boils down to, is you can't keep Border Patrol off anywhere in that 25mi except private residences.

(Again, not supporting the situation. Just pointing to laws)

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1357

 

[Rio Precision Gunworks]

And yes, it says to "prevent the illegal entry."

The .gov position is that if they give them parole into the country for asylum stuff, then it's not "illegal."


Not agreeing, but that's the position they are taking.

 

[Longshot231]

Not trying to hijack this thread but this is somewhat related. A federal appeals court says that Mexico can sue US firearms manufacturers for arming the cartels.

Mexico can sue US gunmakers, federal appeals court rules

A federal appeals has ruled that Mexico can sue a group of US gun manufacturers

www.yahoo.com

This article is a couple of years old but also provides a little background. Thirteen states have also backed Mexico's claims.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/06/us/mexico-lawsuit-us-gun-manufacturers/index.html?cid=external-feeds_iluminar_yahoo

Like I said, this is somewhat related. If Mexico can contribute to destroying our firearms industry then they can hurt the private citizen's ability to defend themselves from the criminals they are dumping inside our border.

Recall the Arizona rancher that's been charged with murdering an armed border jumper. If they make an example out of him with a conviction then it sends a clear message to the rest of the invaders.

Arizona rancher rejects plea deal in deadly migrant shooting near the US-Mexico border; trial set

A trial date has been set for an Arizona rancher accused of fatally shooting a migrant on his property near the U.S.-Mexico border in 2023.

www.fox10phoenix.com

 

[XP1K]

 

[TexPatriot]

There's also 8usc 1357 (a)(3) that gives the 25mi rule for patrolling the border. The Roosevelt Reservation deals more with ownership. 8usc 1357 (a)(3) allows Border Patrol to go on any land, except dwellings, regardless of who owns it.

What that boils down to, is you can't keep Border Patrol off anywhere in that 25mi except private residences.

(Again, not supporting the situation. Just pointing to laws)

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1357

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Ok. And what is the purpose and duties of the BP in that 25mi easement? To patrol and apprehend illegal aliens, not aid and abet them in entering the U.S. Thats what their coyotes are for.

Is there one legal scholar that isn't corrupt who could file a RICO case against the Fed and BP?

They are part of a Human Smuggling/Trafficing ring.

 

[Rio Precision Gunworks]

Ok. And what is the purpose and duties of the BP in that 25mi easement? To patrol and apprehend illegal aliens, not aid and abet them in entering the U.S. Thats what their coyotes are for.

Is there one legal scholar that isn't corrupt who could file a RICO case against the Fed and BP?

They are part of a Human Smuggling/Trafficing ring.

That would be a tough one. You, I, and everyone else knows the administration is stretching their interpretation to or crossing the line.

However, the law gives everyone entering the country (even illegally) the ability to ask for asylum. And the law allows the .gov to grant them entry into the country while awaiting the asylum hearing (this is considered being paroled into the country). Obviously this creates a huge backlog in the system which the .gov shrugs their shoulders and says "we're doing it by the law, but it takes a while."

That's why you don't see any legal scholars jumping with the opinion the .gov is part of human smuggling. On paper, with current laws, they are toeing the line, or at least close enough.



That doesn't make it right, or make it moral. It does make it arguably legal. From that point on, there are only a few choices. Allow it to continue, change the law, or move to something more aggressive (interpret that how you will).

 

[lonegunman762x51]

Supreme Court Judges rule on the basis of their pedophilia photos and videos and the amount of graft they have taken over the years to let party lackeys and criminals roam free over the year.

At no point in life should anyone ever expect a Federal judge to rule on the basis of law or to try and do what's right for actual citizens.

 

[SilentStalkr]

That would be a tough one. You, I, and everyone else knows the administration is stretching their interpretation to or crossing the line.

However, the law gives everyone entering the country (even illegally) the ability to ask for asylum. And the law allows the .gov to grant them entry into the country while awaiting the asylum hearing (this is considered being paroled into the country). Obviously this creates a huge backlog in the system which the .gov shrugs their shoulders and says "we're doing it by the law, but it takes a while."

That's why you don't see any legal scholars jumping with the opinion the .gov is part of human smuggling. On paper, with current laws, they are toeing the line, or at least close enough.



That doesn't make it right, or make it moral. It does make it arguably legal. From that point on, there are only a few choices. Allow it to continue, change the law, or move to something more aggressive (interpret that how you will).

Can I ask for asylum from my own gov within the federal bounds of the country? The law, from my experience, rarely works or does as it should and seemingly...ah never mind, I’m preaching to the choir.

 

[mosin46]

I get the feeling that the US will become like South Africa, where whites will be slaughtered.
This regime is ginning up extreme hatred against whites, like their "White Supremacy" jargon.

The Barry Soetoro fundamental transformation is underway. Also building up his domestic forces he spoke of

yes. that is the plan. berry weaponized local police with "used" military equipment;armored cars,choppers,high end weapons. a win/win because then the gov had to rebuy them from the MIC. i do think he had the idea to form a sort of democrat SA and use it to suppress the conservative peoples. the pigs would certainly have gone along. do not think that "we" will be the only ones armed with up to date stuff. in fact we will be well under armed by plan. ARs,glocks,AIs etc will not prevail over drones,rpgs,choppers,armor etc. many of these things were left with the taliban. you think the gov won't reimport them for use here? or that cartels are underarmed? or the chinese troops already here won't be supplied? they already have the personnel. maybe sending them all over the country is a bad idea? prepositioning their fighters? i certainly have no idea how to save the border states. the BP is not able or willing to do it.

 

[TexPatriot]

yes. that is the plan. berry weaponized local police with "used" military equipment;armored cars,choppers,high end weapons. a win/win because then the gov had to rebuy them from the MIC. i do think he had the idea to form a sort of democrat SA and use it to suppress the conservative peoples. the pigs would certainly have gone along. do not think that "we" will be the only ones armed with up to date stuff. in fact we will be well under armed by plan. ARs,glocks,AIs etc will not prevail over drones,rpgs,choppers,armor etc. many of these things were left with the taliban. you think the gov won't reimport them for use here? or that cartels are underarmed? or the chinese troops already here won't be supplied? they already have the personnel. maybe sending them all over the country is a bad idea? prepositioning their fighters? i certainly have no idea how to save the border states. the BP is not able or willing to do it.

 

[The D]

Supreme Court Decision Sparks Texas Independence Calls

Do it

 

[hero's machine]

 

[M4orturnate]

Do it

I'd bet FL would be right behind followed by a few more

 

[hlee]

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Hot Take- The French installed the Statue of Liberty in order to guilt the US into taking foreign dregs...

 

[mosin46]

I'd bet FL would be right behind followed by a few more

we do have our own experience with illegals

 

[The D]

I'd bet FL would be right behind followed by a few more

A dream for me would be Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, & the Dakota’s to secede as one chunk. We’d be on our way the next weekend

 

[MK20]

A dream for me would be Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, & the Dakota’s to secede as one chunk. We’d be on our way the next weekend

We'd need part of OR or WA for a Deepwater port too.

 

[Two36]

We'd need part of OR or WA for a Deepwater port too.

You'd just need to give portland to Washington and Oregon would be on board.

 

[Threadcutter308]

You'd just need to give portland to Washington and Oregon would be on board.

Friend, warshington isn't any better. Sorry.........

 

[TexPatriot]

We'd need part of OR or WA for a Deepwater port too.

Texas could be a self sufficient, rich country. We have major ports such as Corpus Christi and Galveston and oil.

We joined the Union, married down actually, with the understanding we could secede if things didn't work out.

We don't need this shit.

 

[Ronws]

Texas could be a self sufficient, rich country. We have major ports such as Corpus Christi and Galveston and oil.

We joined the Union, married down actually, with the understanding we could secede if things didn't work out.

We don't need this shit.

Amen, twin brother from another mother.

 

[theLBC]

i didn't even read the decision, or what it actually says.

just because the court says you may cut the wire, doesn't mean you can.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

1861 could repeat as a consequence of FAFO. As many states have had just about enough of the shit from DC, no matter which party is ruling. The only true difference between the Dem's an Repub's is the spelling.

 

[Two36]

Friend, warshington isn't any better. Sorry.........

Exactly. It's already on the border, just make it south Vancouver.

 

[quietmike]

I bet the TNG could put a call out for the citizenry to help maybe even some other states.

American Committee for the Defense of British Homes - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[The D]

We'd need part of OR or WA for a Deepwater port too.

You'd just need to give portland to Washington and Oregon would be on board.

I’m sure there could be some sort of deal made with someone

Texas could be a self sufficient, rich country. We have major ports such as Corpus Christi and Galveston and oil.

We joined the Union, married down actually, with the understanding we could secede if things didn't work out.

We don't need this shit.

Even with as fucked as CA is, they’re still one of the largest economies in the world. So Texas could be an absolute monster if any form of gov could control themselves and stay the fuck out of the way

 

[Death From A Distance]

Dice put out a good vid on this. He points out that Mayorkis was on the board of the HIAS, that facilitates the flood of illegals



Hebrew Immigrant Aide Society

https://hias.org/

 

[45-90]

The ruling is a temporary stay to allow the BP to continue to cut the wire...and nothing else.
The news media lies about 3 illegals who drowned in the river, the BP could not save them because of the wire...Texas was at fault..
false they were dead a hr before the BP even knew.
The Supreme Court ruling means nothing if the final ruling is unconstitutional.
The US government has a constitutional duty to protect all states from invasion.
Justices who rule against the constitution should be impeached.
Democrat Biden did not obey the Supreme Court on decisions, on student loads, twice.
Forgive the loans despite a constitutional decision by the court.
There are many others, on affirmative action, abortion decisions, etc. Screw the court is typical Democrat response to an actual constitution decision.
The Supreme Court has no enforcement apparatus.
Texas, has a duty to not obey an unconstitutional court order...it aint over.
They are right to resist, and not allow the feds to cut the wire. The feds have refused to do there constitutional duty.
Texas is in a perfect place to make a kinetic stand...they have the sea, to import weapons and armies if needed alomg with vast energy resources to supply and sustain a vast army...think about who might want to ally with Texas, in today's world.
The US government will back off, ...if Texas stands strong, the constitution, is on their side..
That doesn’t mean much today...but defiance and projection of strength and power does.
Time has come...

 

[TexPatriot]

The ruling is a temporary stay to allow the BP to continue to cut the wire...and nothing else.
The news media lies about 3 illegals who drowned in the river, the BP could not save them because of the wire...Texas was at fault..
false they were dead a hr before the BP even knew.
The Supreme Court ruling means nothing if the final ruling is unconstitutional.
The US government has a constitutional duty to protect all states from invasion.
Justices who rule against the constitution should be impeached.
Democrat Biden did not obey the Supreme Court on decisions, on student loads, twice.
Forgive the loans despite a constitutional decision by the court.
There are many others, on affirmative action, abortion decisions, etc. Screw the court is typical Democrat response to an actual constitution decision.
The Supreme Court has no enforcement apparatus.
Texas, has a duty to not obey an unconstitutional court order...it aint over.
They are right to resist, and not allow the feds to cut the wire. The feds have refused to do there constitutional duty.
Texas is in a perfect place to make a kinetic stand...they have the sea, to import weapons and armies if needed alomg with vast energy resources to supply and sustain a vast army...think about who might want to ally with Texas, in today's world.
The US government will back off, ...if Texas stands strong, the constitution, is on their side..
That doesn’t mean much today...but defiance and projection of strength and power does.
Time has come...

So how long is the Supreme Court's temporary unconstitutional, unlawful, BS 'ruling' to allow BP to continue to cut the wire good for?

Who decides the Supreme Court ruling is unconstitutional, Congress?
Who's more corrupt, the Supreme Court or Congress?

Why is it the U.S.'s responsibility to rescue drowning illegal aliens breaking into the U.S.? In fact, I'd make sure those floating buoys had nothing to grab on to and would spin.

 

[Animal357]

No better proof that this is the end of the Republic

 

[AmmoFort]

We'd need part of OR or WA for a Deepwater port too.

I always say this. We can't have everything come through the gulf. We'd need that whole Jefferson State thing. Of course I read some retarded shit about Idaho already having a deep water port as the ships can come up the Columbia. I think that's some pretty serious wishful thinking.

 

[Sniperwannabee]

Sounds like a good time for TX to finally secede

 

[Sniperwannabee]

I always say this. We can't have everything come through the gulf. We'd need that whole Jefferson State thing. Of course I read some retarded shit about Idaho already having a deep water port as the ships can come up the Columbia. I think that's some pretty serious wishful thinking.

The greater Idaho plan Would expand Idaho border to include Coos Bay Or which is a deep water port, the Columbia River is no no where near deep enough once you get past the the 205 bridge In Portland. All you guys in the area need to get on board.

the Greater Idaho movement - the Greater Idaho movement

Counties can become a part of Idaho. State lines have been relocated many times in American history because it just takes an interstate compact between two

www.greateridaho.org

 

[AmmoFort]

The greater Idaho plan Would expand Idaho border to include Coos Bay Or which is a deep water port, the Columbia River is no no where near deep enough once you get past the the 205 bridge In Portland. All you guys in the area need to get on board.

the Greater Idaho movement - the Greater Idaho movement

Counties can become a part of Idaho. State lines have been relocated many times in American history because it just takes an interstate compact between two

www.greateridaho.org

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Damn the blue balls later, this map makes my dick hard.

 

[rtB]

The greater Idaho plan Would expand Idaho border to include Coos Bay Or which is a deep water port, the Columbia River is no no where near deep enough once you get past the the 205 bridge In Portland. All you guys in the area need to get on board.

the Greater Idaho movement - the Greater Idaho movement

Counties can become a part of Idaho. State lines have been relocated many times in American history because it just takes an interstate compact between two

www.greateridaho.org

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Kind of funny that little loop around Bend OR. I vote we take it. Great skiing at Mt Bachelor.

 

[Rookie]

Amen, twin brother from another mother.

Texas will keep our oil, our natural gas, our income taxes and our agricultural products.

 

[45-90]

So how long is the Supreme Court's temporary unconstitutional, unlawful, BS 'ruling' to allow BP to continue to cut the wire good for?

Who decides the Supreme Court ruling is unconstitutional, Congress?
Who's more corrupt, the Supreme Court or Congress?

Why is it the U.S.'s responsibility to rescue drowning illegal aliens breaking into the U.S.? In fact, I'd make sure those floating buoys had nothing to grab on to and spun.

The final ruling on the wire cutting will be later,...maybe Feb. Or mid summer...
Your county Sheriff is the Supreme law enforcement officer, elected directly by you, and can deputize the whole county of his jurisdiction.
Then petition the congress to remove (impeach) the unconstitutional court officers. The people are the guardian of the constitution.
Remember several states tried to suspend 2nd Ammendment rights...and even the US government, standing with the people who elected him, our County sheriff refused to obey unconstitutional law, and would not enforce it...same in the recent New Mexico case. Funny how the state cops, were all for the governors unconstitutional orders... in every case.
The video showed the FBI firing at a guy who had his hands raised way over his head. The State police killed him...no weapon was ever presented by the suspect...they say he had a gun under his heavy zipped up coat, but no weapon is presented on video, and the guys hands were raised... the FBI lied about shooting at him...the investigation showed.
It was murder, the cop gets promoted...and it was ruled, a justified killing. Another Ashley Babbitt.
Florida threatened to arrest FBI agents.
Powers not given to the federal government in tbe constitution belong to the states...period. States Rights, and Sovereignty.
The FBI, CIA, IRS, ATF, and most 3 letter agencies are unconstitutional agencies....no provision in the constitution for unelected federal bureaucrats to make rules with the effect of law, to fine, imprision, or confiscate property. Only congress shall pass laws, in a representative government where you can remove that person if they do not represent the majority you, the people.
The Patriot Act suspends constitutional rights.
Most everyone and everything is government is corrupt...that's why all the lies and propaganda, 24-7. They can’t fix the border?...of course they can. But the vast majority in power don't want to...billions of dollars to be made.
Most politicians are controlled people, power & greed, plus they have files on them....take another bribe and enjoy, the money, or be exposed. Hoover was famous for his files on political opponents...even had a file on MLK to control him. The corruption started before the country did...but it's a massive, evil, and totally infested today.

 

[Two36]

Texas will keep our oil, our natural gas, our income taxes and our agricultural products.

Keep the immigrants too

 

[45-90]

The State of Texas is...adding more razor wire.
Despite the new SC stay, ruling that says BP can cut it..until the final judgment.
Federal government agency destroying Texas State property? Should be a criminal charge in there somewhere against the feds.
The federal government put J6 defendents in prison for years for doing the same crime.
The justice system obviously corrupted...
But being a State crime against Texas, the Texas justice system could arrest the BP for cutting the wire...destroying State property Is against State law, with a 10 yr prison sentence, or max permitted by law. Prosecute them...no bail, solitary confinement.
Let the fun begin

 

[45-90]

Inside the wire ... on American soil, a reporter ask this illegal immigrant, "who are you and where are you from? The reporter stepped back as the guy threatened him...and said "Very soon you will know who I am."
Today an internet search, shows he is an Islamic terrorist, released last year after serving 12 yrs for terrorism. He is now somewhere, roaming the streets of the USA with total US government support, and benefits.

 

[XP1K]

And where they don't cut the wire, they rent machinery to hold it up.

 

[Dunraven]

The Supreme Court is actually a Supreme Joke.

Just ignore them

 

[Redlion]

Texas Governor Greg Abbott Releases Statement: “I have declared an invasion under Article I, § 10, Clause 3 to invoke Texas’s constitutional authority to defend and protect itself”

 

[Ronws]

Texas Governor Greg Abbott Releases Statement: “I have declared an invasion under Article I, § 10, Clause 3 to invoke Texas’s constitutional authority to defend and protect itself”

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Keep your powder dry.

 

[darkfader]

That statement from Abbott makes it sound like things may get spicy. Not holding my breath though.

 

[Gommer]

That statement from Abbott makes it sound like things may get spicy. Not holding my breath though.

When other States send NG to support Texas -- that'll be the indicator that this is getting real.

I'm not sure yet if he's fishing for that support from other States or if he's controlled opposition there just to make an appearance of some sort.

 

[IronSkillet]

I'd bet FL would be right behind followed by a few mor

When other States send NG to support Texas -- that'll be the indicator that this is getting real.

I'm not sure yet if he's fishing for that support from other States or if he's controlled opposition there just to make an appearance of some sort.

Florida has already sent NG to the border to assist Texas, are state LE has been rotating in teams for months, mutual aid from other states LE has been continuous.

 

[thejeep]

Texas could be a self sufficient, rich country. We have major ports such as Corpus Christi and Galveston and oil.

We joined the Union, married down actually, with the understanding we could secede if things didn't work out.

We don't need this shit.

Unless it gets cold lol

 

[XP1K]

Texas Governor Greg Abbott Releases Statement: “I have declared an invasion under Article I, § 10, Clause 3 to invoke Texas’s constitutional authority to defend and protect itself”

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Now we're gettin somewhere.

Where's that giraffe with the popcorn emoji?