Brown Precision Kevlar Stocks?

[Potss]

Hello, has anyone use the Brown Precision "Pound'r" stocks here: http://brownprecision.com/precision-stocks/pre-finished-stocks/ ?

I'm looking to build a lightweight bolt gun, and they apparently weight in around 16-18oz with butt pad, and (according to posts on other forums) exhibit significantly less flex than fiberglass, CF, and other lightweight stocks. I would figure more companies would do this if that were true (I can only find Proof Research doing a Kevlar blend of some kind) but maybe it is due to cost (looks like they run around $1100).

Hoping some folks here have first hand experience so I can know better what I'm getting into with one of these, and if they are worth the premium for a lightweight build.

 

[darrenk75b]

Are you planning on getting one of their finished stocks, or one straight out of the mold that you will do the finishing work to yourself?

There is no doubt that brown makes fantastic socks. I have handled the number of them and, as their shop is close to me, I have been there as well.

Do you have a specific question or are you just looking for General feedback?

 

[dinc3]

The Pounders are great! Light and shoot great. They way they are laid up they handle the recoil well, the single layer is strong enough to handle it. But because it's a single layer, it doesn't have as much lateral strength. Glass and carbon have to have multiple layers to be strong enough to handle the recoil forces and that also gives them lateral strength. If you lay multiple layers of Kevlar, you're no longer a pound. It's a trade off that works, but don't use it as a bridge to drive across a ditch!

McMillian and other makers lay up multiple layers in halves and then glue them together. That won't work with Kevlar because it gets it's strength by having continuous fibers. Brown's construction techniques allow them to use a continuous layer. Strong and works with Kevlar. Other manufactures make lighter stocks by making them smaller. If you want one that feels like a regular stock, get a Brown.

Get it finished. Kevlar isn't like glass or carbon. You have to have perfect technique to cut it and it's hard on tools. If you sand into it, you get whiskers that you can't get rid of. You can't sand them off, you have to re-bury them in epoxy. Again, a specialized technique that other makers don't want to hassle with, but because of Brown's methods, they can.

They are unique. Get one.

 

[jbuck88]

I had one on a custom hunting rifle.

It was a 21" 338win on a pre64 action. It cracked the wrist.

 

[Alabama556]

I have one on a hunting rifle. Nice and light. If I had to do it again I would go with a McMillan.

 

[MelvinRoe]

I picked up one last year for a lightweight hunting rig, it is a nice stock but overpriced. If I could do it over I would have used Manners, your dollar goes a lot further with them.

 

[Potss]

Thanks for the feedback so far everyone! So you can get a Manners or McMillan for about 1/2 the cost give or take. But you gain at a minimum 6oz as far as I can tell. What makes that weight bump worth it?

 

[Oregonmuley]

I have a Brown on my KS .280. Its not the Pound'r stock but its probably the lighest weight stock I have even compared to several other McMillans I have. Its light enough and stiff enough especially for a full on hunting rifle. They are nice but not cheap.
Here is my KS - you can order the same pattern from McMillan in their Edge and get almost the same weight and will likely cost much less.

 

[Alabama556]

I want to clarify my post above. I love my brown stock. It is on a 243 ai hunting rifle and the quality is excellent. I bought it before McMillan was making the lighter weight stocks. The customer service from brown is great. I sent them my barreled action and had them make the stock and bed it.

I just don't think the extra money is worth it and that is why I would go with a McMillan if I had it to do over again today.