Gunsmithing Browning A-bolt : Trigger pull, no Bang!

mram10

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The last 2 times I have gone out, my Browning Abolt 300wsm has not fired on 4 out of 20 occasions. I would pull the trigger, but the round wouldn't fire. The primer pocket has a dent, but it seems to be off to the side slightly. I am taking it apart now to see what is wrong. Ideas?

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Re: Browning A-bolt : Trigger pull, no Bang!

Reloads, so that couldn't be it
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It hasn't been rebarreled.
I haven't messed with the headspacing.
The firing pin is rounded on the end.

Am I pressing to hard on the primers when I seat them?
I don't clean the pockets with anything that would make them more shallow.
 
Re: Browning A-bolt : Trigger pull, no Bang!

The crudest part of a loaded cartridge is the priming system. It is required to perform one function, that is to detonate the primer and begin the burn process of the powder charge. Either it works or it doesn't. I never ever uniform primer pocket depths. Deeper is not better, deeper can cause problems. This may be the case here if they have been cut deeper. Uniform depth has never been shown to help accuracy. Helps with the head game but doesn't show up on the target. First the primer has to be sensitized and that is done by crushing the primer in the bottom of the primer pocket. This seats the anvil against the priming compound so that when the firing pin strikes the cup the indention can reach the anvil setting off the priming compound. Seating the primers too shallow will not sensitize them. Seat them hard. I like to feel them bottom out,anvil touching, then go a little further pushing the cup to the bottom of the pocket. That's the way they are designed to work. What kind of priming tool are you using and what kind of primer? If you're using one of primers for a 5.56 with a thicker cup that might also be part of your problem. Tolerances do stack up, depth of the pocket, headspace, firing pin protrusion etc but I'll bet either you're not seating them hard enough or the pockets are too deep. Shape and diameter of the firing pin is another discussion by itself.
 
Re: Browning A-bolt : Trigger pull, no Bang!

Dave is dead-on.

A shallow seated primer soaks up the striker's energy shifting the primer down to its proper seating depth. Sometimes there's still enough energy left to initiate it, sometimes not; hence the apparent randomness of success.

Typically, such a cartridge will fire on the second try, and this is a major tipoff that the primers need to be seated more affirmatively.

Primers should be seated just flush with the cartridge case base. Hold a metal straight-edge against the primer, and see if you can get it to rock into contact with the base. If you can, the primer is seated shallow. Try not to get the primer deep enough that any gap exists between the straight edge and cartridge base. If you can see light between them, they are too deep; but by that time, the primer will usually show some distortion as well.

Greg
 
Re: Browning A-bolt : Trigger pull, no Bang!

The reason I mentioned the factory/reload headspace issue: I have a .35 Whelen New England single shot. I was having the same problem. Thought,"Cheap construction". Wrong. All chamber dimensions check out. The factory Remington brass was just a tiny bit(.004") short. I have heard of others around here having the same misfire problem. (The .35 Whelen single shot qualifies for primitive weapon hunting in Mississippi) I solved the problem for mine by necking up to .375 then full length sizing to fit the chamber. After firing, they fit perfectly of course. No more misfires. The reload mram10 mentioned might be a bit short from FL sizing. But if it is all OK there, I'd look for a bit of trash inside the bolt where the shoulder of the firing pin stops. JMHO
 
Re: Browning A-bolt : Trigger pull, no Bang!

Worked on a gentlemans 300 win abolt one time. Same issues. Alot of oiled gummed up on the firing pin. It was almost as thick as honey on a cold day. Good cleaning and no problems to date.Its been around 4-5 years as far as the bolt dis assembly