Buds gun shop makes "assault rifle" section

[Cranedaddy]

I noticed it today and immediately sent them a message saying I won't give them another dime of my money until it's gone.

For those that don't know, go to their main page, expand the rifles section on the left and assault weapons is the second option from the top.

 

[Megahoser]

awful...

 

[vincent317]

Yeah, I dropped Bud's an email asking them if they really thought that page heading through. Heaven forbid something goes sideways with a rifle bought from that section...liberals will have a field day.

 

[wareagle700]

I'd be willing to bet that decision will be corrected and was made by an ignorant individual.

 

[snipe10]

idiots

 

[UCChris]

Ordered a rifle from Bud's last week. Won't order again until this bullshiloky is gone...

 

[MWDG3]

Those rifles are not for sporting. Who cares??? Should they rename it retreat rifles?

 

[UCChris]

Those rifles are not for sporting. Who cares??? Should they rename it retreat rifles?

They're not assault rifles, that's why I care.

 

[MWDG3]

Retreat rifles they are then! I'm cool with that.

 

[BravoSierra]

Those rifles are not for sporting. Who cares??? Should they rename it retreat rifles?

Who says they aren't for sporting?

 

[BoilerUP]

Full 'tard...

 

[mewillis]

who cares what the libs think? is that going to change anything? maybe SH should be
changed too, aren't Snipers super scary killers and war mongers!!! fuzzy logic IMO..........

 

[BoilerUP]

who cares what the libs think?

Because words (and their definitions) matter.

If you don't understand how the largest firearms e-tailer having an "assault rifles" section legitimizes the improper use of a term by politicians and the media and why that legitimization is a bad thing...you can't be helped.

 

[Yama Arashi]

Idiocy...

When a common buzzword instituted by anti-gun liberals to push an agenda, which incites fear and misunderstanding, becomes commonplace and accepted amongst the gun community/culture, it's a problem.

 

[JoshcBoucher]

This^^^^^^^^^^^^^Very well put, by the way.

 

[mewillis]

Because words (and their definitions) matter.

If you don't understand how the largest firearms e-tailer having an "assault rifles" section legitimizes the improper use of a term by politicians and the media and why that legitimization is a bad thing...you can't be helped.

if you believe this then you are the one that can't be helped my friend, it's PC BS like this that's the problem..........
just the word GUN strikes fear with these sheeple, get real.

 

[BoilerUP]

if you believe this then you are the one that can't be helped my friend, it's PC BS like this that's the problem..........
just the word GUN strikes fear with these sheeple, get real.

Since the point I was trying to make went over your head, let me break it down for you.

This is the definition of "assault rifle", per Encyclopedia Britannica:

military firearm that is chambered for ammunition of reduced size or propellant charge and that has the capacity to switch between semiautomatic and fully automatic fire.

Here's how the Defense Intelligence Agency's Small Arms Identification & Operation Guide defines "assault rifle":

short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between submachine gun and rifle cartridges.

Now tell me, do the rifles sold by Bud's meet either of those definitions?

AGAIN, words have meanings. Or, in the words of John Adams, "Facts are stubborn things." When you allow someone to change a word's meaning to suit their ideology or agenda, it matters...and when the opposing side starts using that changed meaning, it legitimizes the change.

 

[mewillis]

gosh you are such a scholar and very proud of your English skills I see...........
we agree to disagree THAT is a fact.

 

[Magnumdood]

Since the point I was trying to make went over your head, let me break it down for you.

This is the definition of "assault rifle", per Encyclopedia Britannica:


Here's how the Defense Intelligence Agency's Small Arms Identification & Operation Guide defines "assault rifle":


Now tell me, do the rifles sold by Bud's meet either of those definitions?

AGAIN, words have meanings. Or, in the words of John Adams, "Facts are stubborn things." When you allow someone to change a word's meaning to suit their ideology or agenda, it matters...and when the opposing side starts using that changed meaning, it legitimizes the change.

Excellent point that is easily demonstrated. During klinton's reign, LIBERALS soon found out that the word LIBERAL itself evoked a negative response when heard by the average American. So, they began calling themselves PROGRESSIVES, and dropped LIBERAL from their lexicon...although each and every one of them is still a lyin', gun-hatin' LIBERAL.

 

[Adam B]

This is exactly why we will never be able to fully defeat the gun grabbers, everyone is squabbling over something insignificant. The term assault brings a negative connotation and when paired with rifle, bells go off. To the uneducated the term instantly raises a flag, they could easily have called the category Black Rifles or Modern Sporting Rifles. I do agree that we shouldn't have to placate to the uninformed or liberal media but at the sametime why draw unnecessary attention.

 

[tt123]

An ideal solution would be for Bud's to have the Assault Rifle section, but not actually have any firearms in it (since they don't actually sell assault rifles).

 

[BoilerUP]

I got a phone call from Bud's this morning, based of a post I made on their Facebook page about this issue.

It was explained to me (paraphrasing) that the "assault rifles" title was made as a placeholder for all rifles of that style, as they were trying to figure out what the best name would be and somebody just used that in the absence of a decision.

I was told they appreciate feedback, and that the title would be changed to "Tactical Rifles" VERY soon if it has not been done already...and that they might further break it out into AR and AK-pattern rifles in the future.

I, for one, appreciated them taking my concerns seriously (as opposed to it being typical internet bitching) and I think the fact they looked me up to address my concerns shows their sensitivity to the "optics" of the situation.

So A+++ for responsiveness...

 

[MWDG3]

Who says they aren't for sporting?

why draw unnecessary attention.

I've never seen so many pipe dreams on one thread outside demundergnd. You are right these semi auto ARs do not qualify as ful "gun tard". Go ahead and think that will prevent progressives from banning them.

 

[Magnumdood]

I've never seen so many pipe dreams on one thread outside demundergnd. You are right these semi auto ARs do not qualify as ful "gun tard". Go ahead and think that will prevent progressives from banning them.

As usual, we are trying to change the minds of moderates, not liberals. True, gun-hating liberals are only 20% of the electorate. Rock-ribbed conservatives make up 40% of the electorate and the remaining 40% actually study the dialogue and make decisions based on the impression the propaganda has led them to form. It is IMPERATIVE that we keep a "harmless hobby" perception and not allow the rabid 20% liberal electorate to frame the debate. In fact, it would be best if there was never a debate. Oblunder had the House and the Senate for his first two years in office. He did manage, through parliamentary tricks to get that abortion of a health care law passed, but the liberals who may face opposition in their next election remain quiet on the gun debate. They allow the senators and representatives in "safe" districts to carry the fight to control the language and perceptions of the ongoing debate. SO...we still need to battle them on every front and beat them back. They still remember 1994 when klinton's crime bill that carried the "assault weapon ban" cost him both the House and the Senate. For liberals the gun debate is the 3rd rail of topics to try and ram down our throats.

 

[d762nato]

An ideal solution would be for Bud's to have the Assault Rifle section, but not actually have any firearms in it (since they don't actually sell assault rifles).

Nice Play!!

 

[Cranedaddy]

They did rename it to "tactical rifles" sometime today.

 

[jasonfaz]

Good to hear! I can certainly see valid points on both sides of the argument. I do strongly believe Buds and any other gun shop can, and should, be free to say anything they want as it relates to their business and terminology used on their website. Clearly that's a fundamental freedom we all enjoy. I think there is a fine line between being strategically smart about what words we use and being relegated to puppets willing and ready to say whatever we need to in order to coddle the balls of uneducated, liberal ideological dumb asses that won't change their mind anyway.

At the end of the day, none of us would jump in a fight before knowing that we are fully prepared. Assuming the end goal would be winning, we'd all have tactical level objectives that coincide with a comprehensive strategy leading to such ends. You wouldn't paint a big red X on your back and wander aimlessly into battle. Nor would you retreat at the very sight of the enemy just because you're scared of what 'might' happen. You'd merely execute according to a plan that gets you where you need to be. Sometimes we - "we" being the community of gun owners & champions of the constitution - shoot ourselves in the foot by making political statements through actions that do nothing but embolden the other side. That may make us FEEL like we've accomplished something, but the negative consequences of such make themselves very clear in due time.

Like Magnumdood mentioned, the political fight we're in will be won by effectively convincing a larger percentage of those who make their own decisions what is really good and right and true and what is not. It's a waste of time arguing with the socialist left whose minds will never stray from an ideological goal. Consider those arguments part of THEIR strategy to paint this community of Americans as dangerous extremists similar to the likes of the genuine douche bags in Syria, Iraq, etc.

At least for now, having 'cooler heads' will be crucial to strategically positioning ourselves to win this thing IMO....

 

[BudsCSM]

Just as our handgun category has a 1911 category at the top of the handgun page, we added the Tactical Rifle section to the top of our rifle section to make a popular item easier to access for our customers. Unfortunately, due to oversight we posted the heading incorrectly and quickly changed it. We have great customers and a few actually sent emails with some positive feedback about an important issue, supporting the 2nd Amendment and avoiding terms that may shed a negative light on the industry. Again, it wasn't the intended heading and we quickly corrected the error.

We appreciate all the feedback and hope that the category is beneficial to our customers. Please feel free to call in and ask for me should you have additional feedback or comments. I'd be more than happy to discuss all feedback.

 

[LDB]

I'm new here today. Joined to seek knowledge and input toward a rifle purchase I want to make. Having come across this I guess I'm jumping in feet first. Bear with me for a minute.

Who here believes in and promotes discrimination? Who thinks discrimination is a good thing? Who wants there to be discrimination? I don't want to see any form of discrimination. The problem is that if you allow certain people to be turned loose with words they will corrupt anything and thereby contaminate it. Our friends from the moronic left did that when they brought back discrimination. They popularized discrimination. They made discrimination a desired action. Oh yeah, they played with words and created "affirmative action".

Now the word pimps are throwing around "assault weapon" anywhere and everywhere when they are talking about a "semi-automatic rifle". The worst part is they get help from some gun owners and Second Amendment supporters who use that harmful phrase just as freely as those purposely using it to try to take away our Constitutional right.

It should be very important to every one of us that this improper usage never take place.

 

[kraven251]

The other solution is if they merely opted to sell selective fire weapons. Maybe they found a warehouse of pre-ban?

 

[UCChris]

Awesome to see it back to a less volatile word.

 

[BudsCSM]

We created a Tactical Rifle category for ease of use for our customers for popular rifles just like our 1911 category in our handgun section. Unfortunately, due to oversight the heading was listed in error and quickly corrected.

 

[cruze5]

We created a Tactical Rifle category for ease of use for our customers for popular rifles just like our 1911 category in our handgun section. Unfortunately, due to oversight the heading was listed in error and quickly corrected.

Looks good, I'm glad you changed it..